What's with all the 370Z wannabes?

FricFrac · 10-04-2011, 07:21 PM

First the Scion FR-S .....

New York 2011: Scion FR-S Concept is "friggin' really sweet"

and now the Toyota Supra?

New Toyota Supra due in 2014 - rumors

LT419 · 10-04-2011, 07:29 PM

Well to be fair, the FR-S and BRZ look pretty damn good... at least in concept form. If they're under $25k, retain at least most of the look of the concepts and have a back seat, then I might be interested in one as a DD...

As for that potential Supra replacement... yuck. The front end look likes a hybrid between a snow plow and a speed boat. I won't even start on the roofline...

FricFrac · 10-04-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LT419

Well to be fair, the FR-S and BRZ look pretty damn good... at least in concept form. If they're under $25k, retain at least most of the look of the concepts and have a back seat, then I might be interested in one as a DD...

As for that potential Supra replacement... yuck. The front end look likes a hybrid between a snow plow and a speed boat. I won't even start on the roofline...

I like them as well - point is the 370Z is a pretty sexy car and people are all but copying it for that very reason...

Skeeterbop · 10-04-2011, 07:40 PM

If that scion/subaru concept had not taken so long i might have bought it instead. It really isn't that they are wannabes, the styling of the Z uses classic sports car design cues. So of course there are other cars that will look similar, past and present, from other manufacturers.

FricFrac · 10-04-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop

If that scion/subaru concept had not taken so long i might have bought it instead. It really isn't that they are wannabes, the styling of the Z uses classic sports car design cues. So of course there are other cars that will look similar, past and present, from other manufacturers.

I've shown you cars that came after the 370Z that look an aweful lot like the 370Z - aka imitators. Show me a car that looks just as similar to the 370Z that came before it and I'll give you the styling cues point....

The 370Z takes styling cues from the 240Z and from sharks. Those are cues. The FR-S and Supra are more similar than not - a lot more than "styling cues"....

Rui Z · 10-04-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I've shown you cars that came after the 370Z that look an aweful lot like the 370Z - aka imitators. Show me a car that looks just as similar to the 370Z that came before it and I'll give you the styling cues point....

The 370Z takes styling cues from the 240Z and from sharks. Those are cues. The FR-S and Supra are more similar than not - a lot more than "styling cues"....

Audi TT. S2000's had shark fangs. The 370Z is a beautiful car, but it isn't a ground breaking design.

Skeeterbop · 10-04-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I've shown you cars that came after the 370Z that look an aweful lot like the 370Z - aka imitators. Show me a car that looks just as similar to the 370Z that came before it and I'll give you the styling cues point....

The 370Z takes styling cues from the 240Z and from sharks. Those are cues. The FR-S and Supra are more similar than not - a lot more than "styling cues"....

The long nose and short overhangs has always been classic styling cues of pretty much any front engined rear wheel drive sports car. As already pointed out the ft-86 has been in concept form since before the 370Z. but since you want pics here we go:
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2000 911 Turbo

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Honda S2000

FricFrac · 10-04-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop

The long nose and short overhangs has always been classic styling cues of pretty much any front engined rear wheel drive sports car. As already pointed out the ft-86 has been in concept form since before the 370Z. but since you want pics here we go:
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Rear:
2000 911 Turbo

Front:
Honda S2000

Uh that's excatly what I said - those are parts from different cars - styling cues - not very close copies from most angles.....

Skeeterbop · 10-04-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Uh that's excatly what I said - those are parts from different cars - styling cues - not very close copies from most angles.....

Ok then why don't you prove how the Z is a ground breaking design and doesn't use styling cues that other cars haven't used. This is pointless to argue, how hard is it to accept that they aren't copying the Z and just using tried and true sports car styling? I'll keep reading the thread cause people are posting up some funny pics, but I'm done arguing the point.

Mt Tam I am · 10-05-2011, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I've shown you cars that came after the 370Z that look an aweful lot like the 370Z - aka imitators. Show me a car that looks just as similar to the 370Z that came before it and I'll give you the styling cues point....

The 370Z takes styling cues from the 240Z and from sharks. Those are cues. The FR-S and Supra are more similar than not - a lot more than "styling cues"....

And what was the 240Z taking styling cues from? The original long hooded, shark mouthed hatchback.

LunaZ · 10-06-2011, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

And what was the 240Z taking styling cues from? The original long hooded, shark mouthed hatchback.

Can't believe I forgot the E-Type in my list of classics!

ProfessorDave · 10-06-2011, 10:46 AM

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Practically the Z's twin!

Red__Zed · 10-04-2011, 07:41 PM

brucelidat · 10-04-2011, 08:02 PM

I really liked the FT-86 before this latest Scion iteration. Now it looks too over the top like they're trying too hard. If it looks like that concept, maybe I would have bought it when was 24, not now at 30. If it gets toned down some for production which I am sure it will, it could be a fun 'when back seat is necessary' car. Also, only in this view/angle doe sit make me think it looks somewhat like the Z. In other pics I have seen, that thought never crossed my mind. The Supra does not look like a Z. I know we love our Zs, but let's not reach too much here. That Supra design definitely needs some massaging though.

waaaasabi · 10-04-2011, 08:11 PM

In regards to the second picture (the FT-HS), and taken from the very article that you linked to:

"Seen in 2007 as the FT-HS concept at the the Detroit Motor Show..."

...which would place that design before the 370Z...

10-04-2011, 07:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 228	What's with all the 370Z wannabes? First the Scion FR-S ..... New York 2011: Scion FR-S Concept is "friggin' really sweet" and now the Toyota Supra? New Toyota Supra due in 2014 - rumors __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

10-04-2011, 07:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
LT419 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 76 Drives: 11 370Z GM 6MT SP Rep Power: 14	Well to be fair, the FR-S and BRZ look pretty damn good... at least in concept form. If they're under $25k, retain at least most of the look of the concepts and have a back seat, then I might be interested in one as a DD... As for that potential Supra replacement... yuck. The front end look likes a hybrid between a snow plow and a speed boat. I won't even start on the roofline... __________________ 2011 Gun Metallic 370Z Base 6MT + Sport Pkg. "...Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?"

10-04-2011, 07:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 16	If that scion/subaru concept had not taken so long i might have bought it instead. It really isn't that they are wannabes, the styling of the Z uses classic sports car design cues. So of course there are other cars that will look similar, past and present, from other manufacturers. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

10-06-2011, 10:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
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10-04-2011, 08:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I really liked the FT-86 before this latest Scion iteration. Now it looks too over the top like they're trying too hard. If it looks like that concept, maybe I would have bought it when was 24, not now at 30. If it gets toned down some for production which I am sure it will, it could be a fun 'when back seat is necessary' car. Also, only in this view/angle doe sit make me think it looks somewhat like the Z. In other pics I have seen, that thought never crossed my mind. The Supra does not look like a Z. I know we love our Zs, but let's not reach too much here. That Supra design definitely needs some massaging though. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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10-04-2011, 08:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
waaaasabi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York City Posts: 491 Drives: '10 Civic (FG1) 5AT Rep Power: 17	In regards to the second picture (the FT-HS), and taken from the very article that you linked to: "Seen in 2007 as the FT-HS concept at the the Detroit Motor Show..." ...which would place that design before the 370Z... __________________ That's SOOOO not Raven!