Which new car? 370z IS an option.

shadoquad · 10-05-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

That trim is probably held on by a simple press/expansion type clip (I don't know the name for it). It probably somehow, some way, escaped QC at the factory (it happens with every brand). Wasn't pressed in all the way, and a few hot/cold cycles of the sun baking the car, etc. and it fell off when you jarred the vehicle with the door opening. Press it in, it would have probably clipped right in place and never been a problem. The A-pillar in my Z06 is identical, except it didn't miss QC.

Well, as I said, maybe the one I drove was a lemon (missed QC), whatever.

I just don't think of that reflecting a high quality interior.

Then again, my friend test drove a new Z06 recently and said the headliner was already coming off in the back.

Could be a problem with GM, or it could have just been a problem with those two cars.

DLSTR · 10-05-2011, 12:01 PM

370Z - Sportscar

Camaro - Muscle/GT coup - heavy lacking refinement still
Cuda - same as a Camaro with much less capabilty. Its a sharp looking 2 door coupe passenger car
Mustang - Better but lacking refinement. No true sports independent suspension

These cars couldnt be anymore different. After owning 3 different Lotus Turbo Esprits, Vette's and BMW's, Alfa's etc there is only 1 'sportscar' choice in the group. All are nice. Only 1 has a decent pedigree as a sportscar in a strict sense.

Get the Z.

kenchan · 10-04-2011, 06:26 PM

I like MT better in traffic as I don't need to constantly step on the brake pedal like on AT. I know you can shift into N too but occasionally you get that lurch while going back into D while rolling forward. I hate that.

Just buy a MT and learn it. You're not a car guy if you can't drive MT fluently.

yaheard · 10-04-2011, 07:25 PM

I had just about the same list as you minus the camaro but I drove the Z, SS, Genesis coupe and Chally. I love the Challenger and everything about it, minus the interior. Big powerful, loud car. Its fun. Its a little heavy feeling, but it sure is one solid ride. Other than that you cant go wrong with that car.

That being said, I also had the Z as a distant second and it totally grew on me. It felt like driving a go kart and really had that fun factor when you are driving it. I decided to pass on the Chally for now, and go with the two seater while I could. I still love the Challenger and maybe some day, but I have not regretted my purchase one bit.

Genesis is nice. The outside looks pretty sharp and the features it had are pretty nice. The price is the best thing about it too. Its almost like a poor mans Z. I was kinda surprised by it. Pretty good engine and decent inside. Quality car too, my parents both have new Hyundais and they are doing good work.

As for the Camaro not so much. I hated it. It drives like a powerful Corrola not a muscle car. The interior is smushed and cheap. It looks mediocre at best. Everybody has one.

I was also in the same boat as you. I bought my MT Z and it was my first real stick experience not in a work cart at the golf course. It is a little tricky at first but I picked it up after about an hour of practice a day in about a week. Dont be afraid.
IF that is what your going for you would be better off in a 5.0. The looks are decent, but that engine is wicked.

Test them all and see whats for you. Trunk space, seats, quality, value, etc, and then go for the gold.

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-05-2011, 08:00 AM

Camaro SS is great HP/$ 425hp for a little over 30 some K is you shop around and do your home work. It sacrifices a lot for that which can be seen in the quality of material used even in the SS model. I hate cheap interiors I'm going to end up spending alot of time inside the car so a car with a crap interior is meaning less to me regardless of specs or exterior looks.

Hyundai Genesis Cheaper then the rest and also less powerful looks great inside and out but the back seats are useless except for baby seats or extra storage. Went to the NY car show and got in the back the only way for me to sit was in the fetal position because the rear hatch slopes so low 5'11 btw. Personally I cannot stand why manufactures put in non functional seats, either take them out and make the car cheaper or fix the roof.

Challenger this was my number 2 choice. Its big and mean looking on the street. Sounds that way too. Its very very big on the inside unlike your typical sporty car I can stretch out in the back and take a nice comfy nap. Interior is OK nothing to go crazy about but its manageable. Thing is, it's pricey I was looking at the STR8 and was looking at paying 42k ish. My nismo ended up being more then 5k under that out the door. If it was just a wee bit cheaper I would have bought it and there were no real incentives because dodge was strapped for cash at the time. Edit: Now that I look at the 2012 model I see it has 470hp/470tq wow used to be 420 so I don't think I would have gotten the 370z had it been a year later since I was looking.

I bought the Z so that's the one I recommend.

PS a lot of people get the stang so you may not want to pass up looking at that as well.

edub370 · 10-05-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuda1337

maybe a Challenger, but I don't think I like there looks much.

KillerBee370 · 10-05-2011, 07:52 PM

Camaro SS = faster in straight line but mushy handling

370Z = faster in a turn and tighter handling

The modded killerbee = about as fast in a straight line as the SS and BEAST handling.

The answer is clear really.

sonic370 · 10-05-2011, 08:17 PM

The camaro and mustang are both way better than there older brothers.
but to me they are still bigger heavier cars and not that nimble. yes they have v8's which i love and may be faster than the 370 but not enough to make a difference to the average joe. i just can't see getting a car which in my area you see just as many on the used lot as the new lot. that in it's self
should say alot about these cars. imho if the back seat is not a deal breaker
it's a no brainer its the 370. i would like to talk to camaro and mustang owners and see how their cars have stood up. I'm at 35,000 and not one rattle. and last but not least the 370 flat turns heads everywhere you go.

i'm a Z guy for life...............well almost everyone's got the one car they would give up the 370 for and mine would be any c6 vette.......

so to ramble got carried away

Guard Dad · 10-05-2011, 08:46 PM

It's unfortunate that this even needs to be discussed but here goes. If gas goes to say, $6 a gallon, does the Z's 20% better fuel mileage impact your decision?

280z/300zx · 10-06-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad

It's unfortunate that this even needs to be discussed but here goes. If gas goes to say, $6 a gallon, does the Z's 20% better fuel mileage impact your decision?

this really isn't a huge deal. My 370z gets maybe 2mpg better than my Camaro both in town and on the hwy. The only time I see worse mileage in the Camaro is when I'm putting the pedal to the floor. When you are agressive you can acutall watch the needle move. Still, with normal driving the Z isn't much better than the Camaro. Also if you want something thats both faster and better with mileage then get a Vette. Our old C6 Vette would get far better mpg's (30+ on hwy) and obviously faster than the Z or Camaro.

Also, it's always been my point of view that gas mileage shouldn't even come up when talking about buying a performance car. If you want peformance you have to pay to play. Simple as that. Then again I'm a little old school in my thoughts about cars; like not talking on a phone or eating when driving.

themann1984 · 10-06-2011, 06:07 PM

I had three lessons on how to drive a manual from a buddy in his Jetta. Then I got my Z. After about week I was able to comfortably work it. But it was a rough week. But now it is a blast to drive. Buying a manual transmission sports car has been one of the best decisions of my life!

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

10-04-2011, 07:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
yaheard Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: VA Posts: 148 Drives: 6MT Monterrey Blue Z Rep Power: 16	I had just about the same list as you minus the camaro but I drove the Z, SS, Genesis coupe and Chally. I love the Challenger and everything about it, minus the interior. Big powerful, loud car. Its fun. Its a little heavy feeling, but it sure is one solid ride. Other than that you cant go wrong with that car. That being said, I also had the Z as a distant second and it totally grew on me. It felt like driving a go kart and really had that fun factor when you are driving it. I decided to pass on the Chally for now, and go with the two seater while I could. I still love the Challenger and maybe some day, but I have not regretted my purchase one bit. Genesis is nice. The outside looks pretty sharp and the features it had are pretty nice. The price is the best thing about it too. Its almost like a poor mans Z. I was kinda surprised by it. Pretty good engine and decent inside. Quality car too, my parents both have new Hyundais and they are doing good work. As for the Camaro not so much. I hated it. It drives like a powerful Corrola not a muscle car. The interior is smushed and cheap. It looks mediocre at best. Everybody has one. I was also in the same boat as you. I bought my MT Z and it was my first real stick experience not in a work cart at the golf course. It is a little tricky at first but I picked it up after about an hour of practice a day in about a week. Dont be afraid. IF that is what your going for you would be better off in a 5.0. The looks are decent, but that engine is wicked. Test them all and see whats for you. Trunk space, seats, quality, value, etc, and then go for the gold. Last edited by yaheard; 10-04-2011 at 07:29 PM.

10-05-2011, 08:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,412 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	Camaro SS is great HP/$ 425hp for a little over 30 some K is you shop around and do your home work. It sacrifices a lot for that which can be seen in the quality of material used even in the SS model. I hate cheap interiors I'm going to end up spending alot of time inside the car so a car with a crap interior is meaning less to me regardless of specs or exterior looks. Hyundai Genesis Cheaper then the rest and also less powerful looks great inside and out but the back seats are useless except for baby seats or extra storage. Went to the NY car show and got in the back the only way for me to sit was in the fetal position because the rear hatch slopes so low 5'11 btw. Personally I cannot stand why manufactures put in non functional seats, either take them out and make the car cheaper or fix the roof. Challenger this was my number 2 choice. Its big and mean looking on the street. Sounds that way too. Its very very big on the inside unlike your typical sporty car I can stretch out in the back and take a nice comfy nap. Interior is OK nothing to go crazy about but its manageable. Thing is, it's pricey I was looking at the STR8 and was looking at paying 42k ish. My nismo ended up being more then 5k under that out the door. If it was just a wee bit cheaper I would have bought it and there were no real incentives because dodge was strapped for cash at the time. Edit: Now that I look at the 2012 model I see it has 470hp/470tq wow used to be 420 so I don't think I would have gotten the 370z had it been a year later since I was looking. I bought the Z so that's the one I recommend. PS a lot of people get the stang so you may not want to pass up looking at that as well. Last edited by 2011 Nismo#91; 10-05-2011 at 08:46 AM.

10-05-2011, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 52 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 322	Camaro SS = faster in straight line but mushy handling 370Z = faster in a turn and tighter handling The modded killerbee = about as fast in a straight line as the SS and BEAST handling. The answer is clear really. Last edited by KillerBee370; 10-05-2011 at 08:53 PM.

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DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21268	370Z - Sportscar Camaro - Muscle/GT coup - heavy lacking refinement still Cuda - same as a Camaro with much less capabilty. Its a sharp looking 2 door coupe passenger car Mustang - Better but lacking refinement. No true sports independent suspension These cars couldnt be anymore different. After owning 3 different Lotus Turbo Esprits, Vette's and BMW's, Alfa's etc there is only 1 'sportscar' choice in the group. All are nice. Only 1 has a decent pedigree as a sportscar in a strict sense. Get the Z.

10-04-2011, 06:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	I like MT better in traffic as I don't need to constantly step on the brake pedal like on AT. I know you can shift into N too but occasionally you get that lurch while going back into D while rolling forward. I hate that. Just buy a MT and learn it. You're not a car guy if you can't drive MT fluently.

10-05-2011, 08:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 19	The camaro and mustang are both way better than there older brothers. but to me they are still bigger heavier cars and not that nimble. yes they have v8's which i love and may be faster than the 370 but not enough to make a difference to the average joe. i just can't see getting a car which in my area you see just as many on the used lot as the new lot. that in it's self should say alot about these cars. imho if the back seat is not a deal breaker it's a no brainer its the 370. i would like to talk to camaro and mustang owners and see how their cars have stood up. I'm at 35,000 and not one rattle. and last but not least the 370 flat turns heads everywhere you go. i'm a Z guy for life...............well almost everyone's got the one car they would give up the 370 for and mine would be any c6 vette....... so to ramble got carried away

10-05-2011, 08:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Guard Dad Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South Orange County, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2010 370Z Silver A7 Rep Power: 15	It's unfortunate that this even needs to be discussed but here goes. If gas goes to say, $6 a gallon, does the Z's 20% better fuel mileage impact your decision?

10-06-2011, 06:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
themann1984 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 100 Drives: 09 370Z Yellow M6 Rep Power: 17	I had three lessons on how to drive a manual from a buddy in his Jetta. Then I got my Z. After about week I was able to comfortably work it. But it was a rough week. But now it is a blast to drive. Buying a manual transmission sports car has been one of the best decisions of my life! The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!