HFC, maybe not for me?

Dark Sarcasm · 06-26-2011, 04:09 PM

i think the trooper wnated to know so he could put it on his own Z.

nynhex · 06-26-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

they don't usually care that much unless there's a lot done to your car. Even then they usually just want your money.

I would worry less about state troopers and more about the EPA. They will clean out your bank account, though usually only for TPs.

Did you install the cats yourself?

Yes, I installed them myself. I guess I shouldn't have read the horror stories of the 25k fines and 4 years in jail. Probably just should take it for a drive and enjoy it.

nynhex · 06-26-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm

i think the trooper wnated to know so he could put it on his own Z.

That's what I was thinking, he did let me go and troopers usually aren't all that kind.

But being pulled over and having him ask questions turned on instant-paranoia for me.

Red__Zed · 06-26-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nynhex

Yes, I installed them myself. I guess I shouldn't have read the horror stories of the 25k fines and 4 years in jail. Probably just should take it for a drive and enjoy it.

I received a violation for test pipes on my last car. If you fix it and pay admin fees, they usually let it go.

BrianMSmith · 06-26-2011, 04:44 PM

You are being rediculously paranoid. A bit of paranoia is safe in some cases, like when doing big financial deals, being given a hard sell, get phone calls asking you to verify your credit card number for "security" perposes, or get invited in the door for a $5 lap dance....but unless you are a criminal you will never get done for an exhaust job. Next time you get a ticket of any type, hire a lawyer. I started 12 years ago and had a perfect "record" ever since, despite being pulled at least 20 times, and been given at least 13 tickets, I have lost count at about 10. Drive safe.

Red__Zed · 06-26-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMSmith

You are being rediculously paranoid. A bit of paranoia is safe in some cases, like when doing big financial deals, being given a hard sell, get phone calls asking you to verify your credit card number for "security" perposes, or get invited in the door for a $5 lap dance....but unless you are a criminal you will never get done for an exhaust job. Next time you get a ticket of any type, hire a lawyer. I started 12 years ago and had a perfect "record" ever since, despite being pulled at least 20 times, and been given at least 13 tickets, I have lost count at about 10. Drive safe.

^probably not familiar with the EPA's fine structure

nynhex · 06-26-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I received a violation for test pipes on my last car. If you fix it and pay admin fees, they usually let it go.

I see. Did you get hit at the inspection place or on the road? I find it hard to believe that they would try to enforce some mandatory felony instead of giving the consumer a chance to fix it.

Not sure if it's different here in TX vs AL. But thanks.

nynhex · 06-26-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMSmith

You are being rediculously paranoid. A bit of paranoia is safe in some cases, like when doing big financial deals, being given a hard sell, get phone calls asking you to verify your credit card number for "security" perposes, or get invited in the door for a $5 lap dance....but unless you are a criminal you will never get done for an exhaust job. Next time you get a ticket of any type, hire a lawyer. I started 12 years ago and had a perfect "record" ever since, despite being pulled at least 20 times, and been given at least 13 tickets, I have lost count at about 10. Drive safe.

I get what you're saying and yes, I'm probably being overly paranoid but I'd rather err on the side of caution I suppose. I've had numerous cars in the past that were "questionable" in regards to emissions without issue but as I grow older I'm starting to do a little more homework. In this case, after the fact. I guess I start thinking about the cushy gov job, sports car, and lux apartment going bye bye when I heard the words, "Federal" and "Jail time".

More than anything I wanted to find out about probability and also user experiences.

I have a lawyer on call if I get a ticket though I haven't received one in over 5 years but it's good to know he's there.

There's several TX users here who run HFC or worse and never had a problem but saying that it will never happen is like saying you will never fall out of a roller coaster. sh!t happens..

And for the record, $5 lap dances aren't a problem for me

Hambone1 · 06-26-2011, 10:59 PM

My understanding of MOST states laws regarding emissions equipment is that it is a fix it ticket. Essentially, as most people stated if you show up to court with the OEM or manufacturer approved replacement installed it is a moot point.

McFrostyJ · 06-26-2011, 11:22 PM

You are in Texas, I am surprised they don't just hang you from the nearest tree!

Hambone1 · 06-26-2011, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by McFrostyJ

You are in Texas, I am surprised they don't just hang you from the nearest tree!

That's only if you're retarded. Literally, a retard

McFrostyJ · 06-26-2011, 11:27 PM

I lived in Texas while I was in the Air Force. They need to plant more trees to be able to take care of them all!
;-)

Red__Zed · 06-27-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hambone1

My understanding of MOST states laws regarding emissions equipment is that it is a fix it ticket. Essentially, as most people stated if you show up to court with the OEM or manufacturer approved replacement installed it is a moot point.

State level tickets are fix it. Federal level tickets are no joke.

Red__Zed · 06-27-2011, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nynhex

I see. Did you get hit at the inspection place or on the road? I find it hard to believe that they would try to enforce some mandatory felony instead of giving the consumer a chance to fix it.

Not sure if it's different here in TX vs AL. But thanks.

I got the ticket in the mail, back when I was living in VA. Busted by one of the roadside metering vans. I had 14 days to have the vehicle inspected (I think the closest station was 45+ minutes away). I called, played dumb, and they told me if I sold it out of country they'd let me off with a $160 fine or something. Gave some dude in Canada a great deal on the car...only paid $25 of the fine too.

State shouldn't matter though, since it is federal...

Hambone1 · 06-27-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

State level tickets are fix it. Federal level tickets are no joke.

Good point. Didn't even think of that

06-26-2011, 04:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
Dark Sarcasm Track Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Katy Texas Posts: 552 Drives: 11 CTS-V Coupe Rep Power: 15	i think the trooper wnated to know so he could put it on his own Z. Alexwallace23 likes this. __________________ wax

06-26-2011, 04:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
BrianMSmith Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: secret Posts: 267 Drives: 370Z, Ducati 748S Rep Power: 15	You are being rediculously paranoid. A bit of paranoia is safe in some cases, like when doing big financial deals, being given a hard sell, get phone calls asking you to verify your credit card number for "security" perposes, or get invited in the door for a $5 lap dance....but unless you are a criminal you will never get done for an exhaust job. Next time you get a ticket of any type, hire a lawyer. I started 12 years ago and had a perfect "record" ever since, despite being pulled at least 20 times, and been given at least 13 tickets, I have lost count at about 10. Drive safe.

06-26-2011, 10:59 PM	#24 (permalink)
Hambone1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 438 Drives: 370Z MB 7AT Sport Rep Power: 14	My understanding of MOST states laws regarding emissions equipment is that it is a fix it ticket. Essentially, as most people stated if you show up to court with the OEM or manufacturer approved replacement installed it is a moot point.

06-26-2011, 11:22 PM	#25 (permalink)
McFrostyJ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 80 Drives: 2013 Corvette Rep Power: 13	You are in Texas, I am surprised they don't just hang you from the nearest tree!

06-26-2011, 11:27 PM	#27 (permalink)
McFrostyJ Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 80 Drives: 2013 Corvette Rep Power: 13	I lived in Texas while I was in the Air Force. They need to plant more trees to be able to take care of them all! ;-)