Son's newly bought 09 370Z 6MT

RCK · 06-28-2011, 11:27 AM

Some excellent advice here, especially the driving school which I've already considered. The moving violation stricture is already in place. And no modding. Spoiled kid? Maybe, but that's a relative judgement. Many of my son's friends drive far more expensive cars, which we could afford. One drives a Bentley, many Range Rovers, BMWs, etc.

My son is a compulsive saver, putting his birthday money aside since he was 7. He even invested part of it in the stock market in Spring '09, good timing. Of course I choose the stocks with him, but it's money he has saved. He wanted to contribute to the Z purchase with that money, but not a good time to sell right now.

Synack · 06-28-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RCK

Some excellent advice here, especially the driving school which I've already considered. The moving violation stricture is already in place. And no modding. Spoiled kid? Maybe, but that's a relative judgement. Many of my son's friends drive far more expensive cars, which we could afford. One drives a Bentley, many Range Rovers, BMWs, etc.

My son is a compulsive saver, putting his birthday money aside since he was 7. He even invested part of it in the stock market in Spring '09, good timing. Of course I choose the stocks with him, but it's money he has saved. He wanted to contribute to the Z purchase with that money, but not a good time to sell right now.

Yeah I just recently moved out of a neighborhood where all of the kids were driving BMW's, Lexus, a few Corvettes, etc, etc. And every single one of those kids could not drive. If you can AFFORD all of those more expensive cars then why NOT go for the ~$1500 extended warranty. This conversation should be for someone who is on edge with money and can't decide whether they would be a good enough driver and careful enough with their car to get by without the warranty. All signs point to BUY THE WARRANTY in your situation. I hate to be blunt but if you have the money do it, because it'll save you or him more money in the end. Just like the old saying, "You have to spend money to save money".

Usually extended warranties on just about everything else is just free money to the seller. Most of the time, the thing you buy won't break, or it'll be a super easy and cheap fix and/or replacement. In this Auto case, just imagine how many things can add up to or surpass $1500 when things break. Especially on a brand new 370Z which retails towards $40k. Parts aren't always cheap. Just some fuel for your thoughts.

I wouldn't buy a $1500 warranty on a Nissan Versa, Sentra, or even Altima if that tells you anything. The more premium cars deserve it, like Maxima, 370Z, G37, GTR, etc.

nogoodname · 06-28-2011, 11:33 AM

why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

6MT · 06-28-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

MacCool · 06-30-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

It's not hating...it's statistics. Unmarried males age 16-23 are the most dangerous drivers on the road. Naturally there are outliers at either end of the bell-shaped curve, but as a group, those kids are by far the most likely to file insurance claims.

christian370z · 06-30-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

It's not hating...it's statistics. Unmarried males age 16-23 are the most dangerous drivers on the road. Naturally there are outliers at either end of the bell-shaped curve, but as a group, those kids are by far the most likely to file insurance claims.

Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

MacCool · 06-30-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Yes, but the majority of that age group does not have any accidents so it is not fair to assume that a younger driver will always be irresponsible, have accidents and be incapable of exercising discipline and safe driving.

So...it's not fair for insurance companies to charge higher premiums for unmarried male drivers age 16-23? Their actuarial data is wrong?

kenchan · 06-28-2011, 11:54 AM

this thread is like watching a fly buzz around the house...

it's all over the place and one intension to smack the living shiit out of it.

kenchan · 06-28-2011, 03:34 PM

^^ thanks for reinforcing my previous post's thoughts.

hahaha

jk

NYBladeZ · 06-30-2011, 12:02 PM

Thumbs up to a cool Dad, way to many haters on here but its like that on all forums. Personally I would hate the no modding rule since the Z is a tuners car.

Brutal 370Z · 06-30-2011, 12:29 PM

cool dad for sure. my dad bought me a Z when i was 16 too.

FromG2Z · 06-30-2011, 04:03 PM

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

dpirch531 · 06-30-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

Couldn't of said it any better ^. Agree 100%

Rooster89 · 06-30-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox.

I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great.

What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts.

I vowed then and there that I would never be like that.

To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me.

As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started.

IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

RDGR12 · 06-30-2011, 04:46 PM

@RCK - If you can afford to buy the warranty, I don't see any reason for not getting one. Especially when modifying the Z is not in the picture.

+1 on enrolling him to driving school.

I'm sure you're raised your son well and have adopted your teachings for him to deserve such a nice gift!

06-30-2011, 12:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	Thumbs up to a cool Dad, way to many haters on here but its like that on all forums. Personally I would hate the no modding rule since the Z is a tuners car. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

06-30-2011, 12:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Brutal 370Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greater Toronto Area Posts: 357 Drives: 11' MB/Pers/6M/S/Nav Rep Power: 15	cool dad for sure. my dad bought me a Z when i was 16 too. __________________ Stillen G3/CBE/HFC, Nismo S-tune Front Chin Spoiler, 20% tint, Password JDM V2 Shift Knob

06-30-2011, 04:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	Ok, I finally got a chance to read up on the posts, and I will get on my soapbox. I don't really care if the kid is a responsible driver, excellent peripheral vision etc... fine, great. What I do have an issue with (and this is due to personal experience that I can draw from) is a parent "buying it for him". I'm 33 now, but when I was 16, I worked for and paid for my own car, insurance, and gas. Granted it was a POS... in fact, it was a 1982 Ford Escort station wagon with rust all over, and blue colored door (rest of car was white). But you know what? I LOVED that car. I earned it. I worked for it. It was mine. I was proud of it. I washed that thing after school, and remember being so careful as to not to wash the rust off. I saw all these other kids with brand new or newer cars that mommy and daddy bought for them, and they in turn treated their "Gifts" like a$$... like they deserved or had the right to those gifts. I vowed then and there that I would never be like that. To this day, several new cars later, I am proud to say, that I am GLAD that I didn't receive a fancy car as a gift. I learned the value of hard work and patience and humility through my experience. No one will ever take that away from me. As I raise my own child now, it truly is hard to 'practice what you preach', I'm sure. Maybe my tone will change as he gets older, but I definitely won't be buying him a new/relatively new sports car when he turns 16 or 18 for that matter. I'll be sure he works and saves his money, and "maybe" help him buy a much older used car to get him started. IMO, there is nothing more rewarding than being able to obtain what you yourself personally worked hard for. Ok, I'm off my soapbox now. __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra Last edited by FromG2Z; 06-30-2011 at 04:05 PM.

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06-28-2011, 11:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
RCK Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 9 Drives: 07 G35 6MT;09 370Z6M Rep Power: 15	Some excellent advice here, especially the driving school which I've already considered. The moving violation stricture is already in place. And no modding. Spoiled kid? Maybe, but that's a relative judgement. Many of my son's friends drive far more expensive cars, which we could afford. One drives a Bentley, many Range Rovers, BMWs, etc. My son is a compulsive saver, putting his birthday money aside since he was 7. He even invested part of it in the stock market in Spring '09, good timing. Of course I choose the stocks with him, but it's money he has saved. He wanted to contribute to the Z purchase with that money, but not a good time to sell right now.

06-28-2011, 11:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	why people hatin on the 18 yr old getting a Z.. I have a G and are pretty young haha. Don't hate.

06-28-2011, 11:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	this thread is like watching a fly buzz around the house... it's all over the place and one intension to smack the living shiit out of it.

06-28-2011, 03:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	^^ thanks for reinforcing my previous post's thoughts. hahaha jk

06-30-2011, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
RDGR12 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Bruno, CA Posts: 90 Drives: An Old Beater Rep Power: 17	@RCK - If you can afford to buy the warranty, I don't see any reason for not getting one. Especially when modifying the Z is not in the picture. +1 on enrolling him to driving school. I'm sure you're raised your son well and have adopted your teachings for him to deserve such a nice gift!