2012 Official LineUp Changes

PapoZalsa · 06-11-2011, 04:44 PM

What a waste of time, resources and money! Not a single change...

At least the 350Z had some changes throughout the years.

dad · 06-11-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

What a waste of time, resources and money! Not a single change...

At least the 350Z had some changes throughout the years.

Those are the 3 things Nissan hasn't done!

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-11-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

I agree, and you sir have been repped

Thanks.

Isamu · 06-11-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

What Nissan really needs to do to up the sales of the Z is to improve it's performance and make it more competitive with the other cars available, like the Mustang 5.0. Enthusiasts who love the Z most likely already have one. To attract other consumers, they need to show that they can compete with other cars that people cross shop with the Z. To the average consumer, the Z is slower, more expensive, and less practical than the Mustang, so why buy one?

way to repost what was already said just above you, only in different words

Isamu · 06-11-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed

They need to fix what is broken before making changes. Our car is a value but the very basic stuff like cooling, oil consumption, and sh--ty paint need to be fixed first.

ding ding ding!

they should also mail everyone who bought a nismo a damn oil cooler!!

themann1984 · 06-11-2011, 06:48 PM

Is it possible that they are not making improvements because they plan on discontinuing the car in a few years? Why invest resources in a car that isn't selling the 30,000 units that they planned on selling. Why invest resources in a car that they plan to discontinuing? Like someone mentioned before. Tweaks are expensive to introduce.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

Streetlife · 06-11-2011, 06:50 PM

I just read the post at Nissan's website. It seems the only change is in the Supension, it say's refined 4 wheel independent suspension. I guess that's what they mean by no "major" changes to the 2012 model.

ImportConvert · 06-12-2011, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

What Nissan really needs to do to up the sales of the Z is to improve it's performance and make it more competitive with the other cars available, like the Mustang 5.0. Enthusiasts who love the Z most likely already have one. To attract other consumers, they need to show that they can compete with other cars that people cross shop with the Z. To the average consumer, the Z is slower, more expensive, and less practical than the Mustang, so why buy one?

When the 370 is over 400 bhp and if its not some hybrid crap, I might pick one up. You nailed it.

Isamu · 06-12-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

When the 370 is over 400 bhp and if its not some hybrid crap, I might pick one up. You nailed it.

maybe its time for you to

then?

just sayin

MacCool · 06-12-2011, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kree

I thought I read in some thread on here that some article or interview done by someone in Europe had said the 11's already had more sound deadening than the 09s and 10s. I don't have a link to that or the time to search for it though... I could be mis-remembering...

No, I read that too.

bluelion · 06-12-2011, 07:11 AM

weird the Z got no exterior changes, but yet the maxima is supposed to get a different grill, headlights, taillights, and wheels......

Cmike2780 · 06-12-2011, 08:14 AM

I think they should have pushed the hp output a bit. I mean, they managed to squeeze out a few more ponies for the Nismo with some tuning and exhaust after all. As far as exterior changes, I really don't see a whole lot I would change or would want to change, so I really don't see a point. Although, I do understand why others would be expecting one by now. I think Nissan is taking the corvette style refresh cycle. Which means making the Z a low volume 10 year cycle model, wether they like it or not. If they want to keep their "sporty" image, the Z and GT-R namesake won't be disappearing anytime soon.

ImportConvert · 06-12-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by themann1984

Is it possible that they are not making improvements because they plan on discontinuing the car in a few years? Why invest resources in a car that isn't selling the 30,000 units that they planned on selling. Why invest resources in a car that they plan to discontinuing? Like someone mentioned before. Tweaks are expensive to introduce.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

Dodge improved the Viper right up until 2010.
GM improved the C5 right up until 2004.
Ford is STILL improving the mustang line-up even though a re-design is on the horizon for YM'14.

For Nissan to use that excuse is petty. If they want to say that due to the damage their country sustained they were unable to perform YM12 changes, you have to either respect that--or buy something else if you don't like it, but if the stance is "We are killing it in a few years--screw the customer" then that would explain WHY they don't sell very many of them.

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Originally Posted by bluelion

weird the Z got no exterior changes, but yet the maxima is supposed to get a different grill, headlights, taillights, and wheels......

companies rotate through their models with changes it seems.

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I think they should have pushed the hp output a bit. I mean, they managed to squeeze out a few more ponies for the Nismo with some tuning and exhaust after all. As far as exterior changes, I really don't see a whole lot I would change or would want to change, so I really don't see a point. Although, I do understand why others would be expecting one by now. I think Nissan is taking the corvette style refresh cycle. Which means making the Z a low volume 10 year cycle model, wether they like it or not. If they want to keep their "sporty" image, the Z and GT-R namesake won't be disappearing anytime soon.

I think Nissan is about out of tricks for getting more power out of the VQ short of DI or FI. If they did what they did to the IPL and NISMO to the base Z, they would have nowhere to go with the NISMO.

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Originally Posted by Isamu

maybe its time for you to

then?

just sayin

Oh, right away Kimosabe, right away!

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-12-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

way to repost what was already said just above you, only in different words

Yeah... maybe I should sue Blades for Plagerism.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-12-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

way to repost what was already said just above you, only in different words

Just reinforcing the idea

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah... maybe I should sue Blades for Plagerism.

Good luck with that

06-11-2011, 04:44 PM	#31 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	What a waste of time, resources and money! Not a single change... At least the 350Z had some changes throughout the years. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

06-12-2011, 08:14 AM	#42 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 28	I think they should have pushed the hp output a bit. I mean, they managed to squeeze out a few more ponies for the Nismo with some tuning and exhaust after all. As far as exterior changes, I really don't see a whole lot I would change or would want to change, so I really don't see a point. Although, I do understand why others would be expecting one by now. I think Nissan is taking the corvette style refresh cycle. Which means making the Z a low volume 10 year cycle model, wether they like it or not. If they want to keep their "sporty" image, the Z and GT-R namesake won't be disappearing anytime soon. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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06-11-2011, 06:48 PM	#36 (permalink)
themann1984 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 100 Drives: 09 370Z Yellow M6 Rep Power: 16	Is it possible that they are not making improvements because they plan on discontinuing the car in a few years? Why invest resources in a car that isn't selling the 30,000 units that they planned on selling. Why invest resources in a car that they plan to discontinuing? Like someone mentioned before. Tweaks are expensive to introduce. The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

06-11-2011, 06:50 PM	#37 (permalink)
Streetlife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 466 Drives: 2012 370z Mont/sport Rep Power: 15	I just read the post at Nissan's website. It seems the only change is in the Supension, it say's refined 4 wheel independent suspension. I guess that's what they mean by no "major" changes to the 2012 model.

06-12-2011, 07:11 AM	#41 (permalink)
bluelion Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 91 Drives: 2010 370z & Maxima Rep Power: 14	weird the Z got no exterior changes, but yet the maxima is supposed to get a different grill, headlights, taillights, and wheels......