05-25-2011, 10:25 AM
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A True Z Fanatic
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Originally Posted by Hambone1
The being gentle remark was a joke, which I guess didn't come across as intended. I think that there may be some confusion with obtainable vs. feasible. Yes, the majority of Americans buying new cars today can afford in some way or another a car priced between 26-40k. However this car has to be able to do far more things than the Z can, essentially making the Z completely unfeasible. I also never claimed that the Z was untouchable based on price, my point was that I believe it has a vastly lower "boy racer" appeal due to the fact that it's a standalone model, not a tarted up version of a lower end model.
In regards to the 2012 refresh, I would imagine sound dampening would be high on their list. While most people on here don't care, Nissan likely doesn't have their head in the sand when reading reviews and has taken note of everyone from Consumer Reports to Car and Driver pissing and moaning about how loud it is. I completely agree on the stereo setup, they should do away with the base, and make the Bose stock and add an upmarket setup for the Touring+Nav. The other things would be doing away with the gas gauge and adding other functions to the center gauge pods.
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Yes... so true. The gas gauge is wack. Hopefully they can do some kind of enhanced analog log like the rest of the gauge pod. That would be an excellent upgrade as well. Sound dampening would be upsetting because it will add weight. Unless they are willing to add more carbon fiber to keep weight equal or less? It wouldn't make sense to add sound deadening.
People feed so much into magazine articles its ridiculous. Magazine articles find the Z to be near flawless in performance. So in an effort to make BMW sound that much better. They rant and rave about engine cabin noise which you don't get much of in the 1 and 3 series vehicles. The magazines don't tell you that most dedicated sports cars on the road make a lot of cabin noise. Instead, they make idiotic attempts at comparing the Z to the most average of sports gt coupes in a higher price bracket.
For those that came from high end cars, then took a walk on the wild side and bought low end with the Z,or went from the family sedan/minivan, expected more in the sense of a quiet cabin. Us, with a less refined pallette, that come from older Z cars, v8 muscle and overboosted rotary engines know the Z is fast, noise is normal for what it is and engineering is above and beyond what other cars in the price range are at. Adding sound deadening will change weight distribution and general performance of this car. I will take it off in mine if they add it.
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