350Z vs 370Z highlights?!?!?!

kielbasa16 · 05-03-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleLion

I went shopping in '06 and looked at the 350. From the driver's perspective there was almost no rear view at all. Also the cockpit wasn't very um...special.

As mentioned, the 370 is lighter, more powerful, faster, shorter, and wider.The interior is way better, the sat nav is improved, better sound, etc.

Being asked the question isn't unfair or dumb. Nissan has managed to screw up Z's over the years too. The 240Z was amazing. The 280 wasn't bad, but not particularly better. Then until the 350 Nissan totally dropped the ball. I am very grateful that the evolution is now going the right way. The 350 restored the Z to its rightful place as a reasonably priced true sports car (as opposed to the Mitsubishi Eclipse, which looks cool but isn't a true sports car). The 370 is truly evolutionary. It isn't a completely new car from the 350. It is an amazing refinement.

Curious what your gripes are with the 300ZX, I feel like its a favorite of many Z enthusiasts.

TreeSemdyZee · 05-03-2011, 03:21 PM

I haven't seen that anyone has noted it, but the 370 and the '07-'09 (vert) 350s have basically the same engine. The 350 of course is 3.5, but they both are HR motors.

As a footnote, ALL Z names relate to their engine size. 240z=2.4 litre, 280=2.8 and so on.

I had an '05 350 and believe me, the improvements over the 350 are great. As much as I enjoyed my 350, I don't miss all of the rattles and issues involved with it.

dang370z · 05-03-2011, 02:56 PM

The 350 is a 3.5l while the 370 is a 3.7 ( the name )
Also the 370 wheelbase is shorter by 4inches and is barely wider then the 350 believe. and everything else you listed

Lug · 05-03-2011, 03:10 PM

The 370Z is more of an evolution thtn a revolution in design. EVERYTHING was improved a little bit. The only exception was the 2004 1/2 350Z, it was FLAWLESS!

The weight confusion is that in 2006, the 350Z gained 150 lbs. So the early 350Z's with the less powerful engine (DE - 283 hp) actually weighed less than a 370Z and the post 2006 Z's with the more powerful engines (revup and HR - up to 306 hp) weighed more than the 370Z.

kenchan · 05-03-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

EVERYTHING was improved quite a bit.

fixed

Lug · 05-03-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

fixed

Well if 26 hp, about 100 lbs. and about a .2 0-60 is quite a lot for for you in a whole new model, then ok!

kenchan · 05-03-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Well if 26 hp, about 100 lbs. and about a .2 0-60 is quite a lot for for you in a whole new model, then ok!

like i posted before, that platform was better suited for the G35C.

Kingbaby · 05-03-2011, 03:13 PM

AlphaSnacks · 05-03-2011, 03:31 PM

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also boast much better braking, especially if you get the sports package that comes with the 4-piston front/2-piston rear 14-inch brakes.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

Lug · 05-03-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also have a carbon fiber driveshaft, which reduces unsprung weight considerably for much better acceleration.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

The motors are a bit more different than that. The valve setup is totally different (variable timing on bothintake and exhaust instead of only intake). This allowed for a bit more power and better gas mileage atr the same time.

Kingbaby · 05-03-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also have a carbon fiber driveshaft, which reduces unsprung weight considerably for much better acceleration.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

Very informative post for you counterparts to read and take in!

You left out the porkey factor the 370z has!

I Keed I keed

Wasn't keeding

Mike · 05-03-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

370Zs also have a carbon fiber driveshaft

so did the 350Z

kenchan · 05-03-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

so did the 350Z

my G35C also has carbon drive shaft.

AlphaSnacks · 05-03-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

so did the 350Z

It's been noted already.

houkouonchi · 05-03-2011, 06:24 PM

I think the best way to explain it is simply say its really a completely different car that just looks similar. A 350Z is a Z33 and a 370z is a Z34 using the Japanese model numbers. Nissan does not change these numbers just because the displacement change. The car was basically completely re-designed from the ground up.

They definitely drive significantly different (I have significant driving experience on both). Here is a better comparison pick showing my dad's 350Z and my 370Z. Both are stock. He has an enthusiast (regrets he didn't go performance) and I have a base w/sports:

05-03-2011, 03:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	The 370Z is more of an evolution thtn a revolution in design. EVERYTHING was improved a little bit. The only exception was the 2004 1/2 350Z, it was FLAWLESS! The weight confusion is that in 2006, the 350Z gained 150 lbs. So the early 350Z's with the less powerful engine (DE - 283 hp) actually weighed less than a 370Z and the post 2006 Z's with the more powerful engines (revup and HR - up to 306 hp) weighed more than the 370Z. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs Last edited by Lug; 05-03-2011 at 03:14 PM.

05-03-2011, 03:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 19	The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight. Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also boast much better braking, especially if you get the sports package that comes with the 4-piston front/2-piston rear 14-inch brakes. Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission. Last edited by AlphaSnacks; 05-03-2011 at 05:05 PM.

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05-03-2011, 03:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 61 Posts: 4,887 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	I haven't seen that anyone has noted it, but the 370 and the '07-'09 (vert) 350s have basically the same engine. The 350 of course is 3.5, but they both are HR motors. As a footnote, ALL Z names relate to their engine size. 240z=2.4 litre, 280=2.8 and so on. I had an '05 350 and believe me, the improvements over the 350 are great. As much as I enjoyed my 350, I don't miss all of the rattles and issues involved with it.

05-03-2011, 02:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
dang370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NoLA Posts: 242 Drives: 2013 MBlack Rep Power: 17	The 350 is a 3.5l while the 370 is a 3.7 ( the name ) Also the 370 wheelbase is shorter by 4inches and is barely wider then the 350 believe. and everything else you listed

05-03-2011, 06:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
houkouonchi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario, California Posts: 440 Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z Rep Power: 16	I think the best way to explain it is simply say its really a completely different car that just looks similar. A 350Z is a Z33 and a 370z is a Z34 using the Japanese model numbers. Nissan does not change these numbers just because the displacement change. The car was basically completely re-designed from the ground up. They definitely drive significantly different (I have significant driving experience on both). Here is a better comparison pick showing my dad's 350Z and my 370Z. Both are stock. He has an enthusiast (regrets he didn't go performance) and I have a base w/sports: