350Z vs 370Z highlights?!?!?!

AlphaSnacks · 05-03-2011, 03:31 PM

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also boast much better braking, especially if you get the sports package that comes with the 4-piston front/2-piston rear 14-inch brakes.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

Lug · 05-03-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also have a carbon fiber driveshaft, which reduces unsprung weight considerably for much better acceleration.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

The motors are a bit more different than that. The valve setup is totally different (variable timing on bothintake and exhaust instead of only intake). This allowed for a bit more power and better gas mileage atr the same time.

Kingbaby · 05-03-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also have a carbon fiber driveshaft, which reduces unsprung weight considerably for much better acceleration.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

Very informative post for you counterparts to read and take in!

You left out the porkey factor the 370z has!

I Keed I keed

Wasn't keeding

Mike · 05-03-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

370Zs also have a carbon fiber driveshaft

so did the 350Z

kenchan · 05-03-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

so did the 350Z

my G35C also has carbon drive shaft.

AlphaSnacks · 05-03-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

so did the 350Z

It's been noted already.

houkouonchi · 05-03-2011, 06:24 PM

I think the best way to explain it is simply say its really a completely different car that just looks similar. A 350Z is a Z33 and a 370z is a Z34 using the Japanese model numbers. Nissan does not change these numbers just because the displacement change. The car was basically completely re-designed from the ground up.

They definitely drive significantly different (I have significant driving experience on both). Here is a better comparison pick showing my dad's 350Z and my 370Z. Both are stock. He has an enthusiast (regrets he didn't go performance) and I have a base w/sports:

Mike · 05-03-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

I think the best way to explain it is simply say its really a completely different car that just looks similar. A 350Z is a Z33 and a 370z is a Z34 using the Japanese model numbers. Nissan does not change these numbers just because the displacement change. The car was basically completely re-designed from the ground up.

Not exactly. First, the difference between the 240Z and 260Z was an increase in stroke. Then when the 280z came out, it was an increase in bore, but all three were the same cars with only minor trim and appearance differences.

It had been a couple years since I had my 350z, but the day I brought the 370 home, I immediately changed out springs, sways and suspensions, and while the front is slightly modified and improved, this car is just an evolution of the past on the same platform with a new body and interior. It felt like I was right back at home taking it apart.

onzedge · 05-03-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Not exactly. First, the difference between the 240Z and 260Z was an increase in stroke. Then when the 280z came out, it was an increase in bore, but all three were the same cars with only minor trim and appearance differences.

It had been a couple years since I had my 350z, but the day I brought the 370 home, I immediately changed out springs, sways and suspensions, and while the front is slightly modified and improved, this car is just an evolution of the past on the same platform with a new body and interior. It felt like I was right back at home taking it apart.

Right -- all of the 240, 260 and 280's were S30 chassis designations and essentially the same car.

houkouonchi · 05-04-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Right -- all of the 240, 260 and 280's were S30 chassis designations and essentially the same car.

Yeah he seemed to be making my point for me? Different displacements yet they are all the same S30. The 370z is really a new car which is why it is a Z34 vs Z33 and why I consider it to be a considerably different car that just looks similar to a 350Z.

cossie1600 · 05-03-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Not exactly. First, the difference between the 240Z and 260Z was an increase in stroke. Then when the 280z came out, it was an increase in bore, but all three were the same cars with only minor trim and appearance differences.

It had been a couple years since I had my 350z, but the day I brought the 370 home, I immediately changed out springs, sways and suspensions, and while the front is slightly modified and improved, this car is just an evolution of the past on the same platform with a new body and interior. It felt like I was right back at home taking it apart.

I am with Mike, the 370 is a 350 with improvements (lots of it) to it. It is not a new car or new chassis, get over it.

Morrißey · 05-03-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I am with Mike, the 370 is a 350 with improvements (lots of it) to it. It is not a new car or new chassis, get over it.

I can see both points of view.

I guess its the Audi R8 and the Lamborghini Gallado story;

based on the same platform - True -
but are very very different cars. - True Again

05-03-2011, 03:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 20	The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight. Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also boast much better braking, especially if you get the sports package that comes with the 4-piston front/2-piston rear 14-inch brakes. Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission. Last edited by AlphaSnacks; 05-03-2011 at 05:05 PM.

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05-03-2011, 06:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
houkouonchi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario, California Posts: 440 Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z Rep Power: 17	I think the best way to explain it is simply say its really a completely different car that just looks similar. A 350Z is a Z33 and a 370z is a Z34 using the Japanese model numbers. Nissan does not change these numbers just because the displacement change. The car was basically completely re-designed from the ground up. They definitely drive significantly different (I have significant driving experience on both). Here is a better comparison pick showing my dad's 350Z and my 370Z. Both are stock. He has an enthusiast (regrets he didn't go performance) and I have a base w/sports: