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Inspector71 05-02-2011 08:20 AM

If you drive a Nissan, you're not an American?
 
Some aspects of this post may offend some members and that is NOT my intention. Please don't miss the main point. A new neighbor moved in a week ago. I saw he had a 67 GTO, totally restored, good, his wife a newer Pontiac sedan, and they also had a Chevy truck. I try not to judge but, having lived in this part of Missouri for 20 years, I have encountered a certain mentality that equates owning "foreign" cars as bad. I introduced myself and told him the previous owners were meticulous in their care of the home. He said, "Of course they were, or we wouldn't have bought it." His tone was a little smart a&$ but I shurgged it off. I told him they put a lot of time in the yard and so forth. He told me of course they did because that is the only kind of home they buy. I tried again. I commented on how nice they and all their new neighbors were. He said I would notice no change with them. I told him I keep to myself, mind my own business, and whatever he did on his property, house, driveway, etc. was none of my business. He stared at me without answering as if he didn't like what I said. I tried one more time. I commented on how nice his 67 GTO was and mentioned I had some old cars I played around with and hoped to get to them one day. He asked which kind? I told him 66 Plymouth Valiant convertible, 68 Barracuda, and a 68 Charger that was maybe more rust than metal. He then grabs me around the neck, I kid you not, and shakes me saying, "Then why are you driving Nissans!" My wife has a Sentra. He asked me again saying I should drive only American cars. So I had had enough. I told him I wasn't buying cars from companies whose unions gave money to elect people hostile to my political interests especially my liberty. He asked what I meant and I told him the 2nd Amendment. He then launches into talking points about no one needing a 35 round "clip." I explained my dad carried an M1 Garand in the Korean War and no one had a 35 round "clip." He then began to pepper me with one question after another asking a new one before I could answer and old one. He then tells me he is from Detroit, is a GM Auto worker, an assembler, and was transferred to Missouri. He told me he was union and a Democrat. He then tells me I am a teacher, (my neighbors told) and how do I feel about that. I told him I am not in the union and wouldn't join one because I don't want labor money going to Democrats or Republicans. He then tells me, "Well, I'm a true blue American. I'm American to the core, I drive American cars, am in the union, and a Democrat." In other words, if you are not like that, you are not an American. He then excused himself and went into his garage. I finished cutting the grass and then backed my red Z out of the garage and washed it, slowly, even though it was clean.

Econ 05-02-2011 08:31 AM

Paragraphs are win

fullmonty 05-02-2011 08:31 AM

Haaha way to hit it off with the new neighbors. You could of always reminded him that The Camaro and Challenger are built in Canada and that Nissan has a huge plant in Tennessee.

BaneGrievver 05-02-2011 08:38 AM

So if you're not a unionized democrat, you're not American?

Anyway, tell him you support American car dealerships which put money back into the local economy.

whoady4shoady 05-02-2011 09:00 AM

I missed the part where you kicked him in the nuts and then broke the arm he used to grab your neck.

TypeOne 05-02-2011 09:05 AM

Paint your Z like the general lee.

Jjaden 05-02-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 1084003)
I missed the part where you kicked him in the nuts and then broke the arm he used to grab your neck.

This x 10

gbrettin 05-02-2011 09:11 AM

That guy sounds really unstable to me. Are you sure you didn't leave anything out? If it did go down exactly how you said then I would have beat his A$$ to a stump for grabbing me like that.

Mt Tam I am 05-02-2011 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector71 (Post 1083855)
Some aspects of this post may offend some members and that is NOT my intention. Please don't miss the main point. A new neighbor moved in a week ago. I saw he had a 67 GTO, totally restored, good, his wife a newer Pontiac sedan, and they also had a Chevy truck. I try not to judge but, having lived in this part of Missouri for 20 years, I have encountered a certain mentality that equates owning "foreign" cars as bad. I introduced myself and told him the previous owners were meticulous in their care of the home. He said, "Of course they were, or we wouldn't have bought it." His tone was a little smart a&$ but I shurgged it off. I told him they put a lot of time in the yard and so forth. He told me of course they did because that is the only kind of home they buy. I tried again. I commented on how nice they and all their new neighbors were. He said I would notice no change with them. I told him I keep to myself, mind my own business, and whatever he did on his property, house, driveway, etc. was none of my business. He stared at me without answering as if he didn't like what I said. I tried one more time. I commented on how nice his 67 GTO was and mentioned I had some old cars I played around with and hoped to get to them one day. He asked which kind? I told him 66 Plymouth Valiant convertible, 68 Barracuda, and a 68 Charger that was maybe more rust than metal. He then grabs me around the neck, I kid you not, and shakes me saying, "Then why are you driving Nissans!" My wife has a Sentra. He asked me again saying I should drive only American cars. So I had had enough. I told him I wasn't buying cars from companies whose unions gave money to elect people hostile to my political interests especially my liberty. He asked what I meant and I told him the 2nd Amendment. He then launches into talking points about no one needing a 35 round "clip." I explained my dad carried an M1 Garand in the Korean War and no one had a 35 round "clip." He then began to pepper me with one question after another asking a new one before I could answer and old one. He then tells me he is from Detroit, is a GM Auto worker, an assembler, and was transferred to Missouri. He told me he was union and a Democrat. He then tells me I am a teacher, (my neighbors told) and how do I feel about that. I told him I am not in the union and wouldn't join one because I don't want labor money going to Democrats or Republicans. He then tells me, "Well, I'm a true blue American. I'm American to the core, I drive American cars, am in the union, and a Democrat." In other words, if you are not like that, you are not an American. He then excused himself and went into his garage. I finished cutting the grass and then backed my red Z out of the garage and washed it, slowly, even though it was clean.


Good luck living with the jerk next door. Imagine his America, where instead of rugged individualism, it is all about joining a group and doing the same thing.

shadoquad 05-02-2011 09:17 AM

Without getting into politics, being American means the freedom to choose. Being American does not imply the legal right to lay hands on people if contact is unwanted.

kenchan 05-02-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector71 (Post 1083855)
Well, I'm a true blue American.

wow, ive heard of red, white, yellow, brown, black skin americans, but not blue. he must be a new breed. :tup: welcome to america, neighbor! we likes charburgers and cheeze fries here. :yum:

BuckeyeZ 05-02-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 1083886)
You could of always reminded him that The Camaro and Challenger are built in Canada and that Nissan has a huge plant in Tennessee.

And a second plant of similar size in Mississippi. Over 60% of all Nissan's and Infiniti's sold in the US are made here. I'm not sure the Big 3 could say that. (Unfortunately, our Z's are not)

TreeSemdyZee 05-02-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1084044)
Good luck living with the jerk next door. Imagine his America, where instead of rugged individualism, it is all about joining a group and doing the Nothing.

Fixed.

This Ra-ra union mentality is why this country is in the state that it is. Lazy, overpaid rednecks that truly have no real skills. Ask him is he has looked at all of the parts that go into his "American" cars. Major amounts of foreign made parts.

onzedge 05-02-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1083885)
Paragraphs are win

Seriously --- try to have no more than 3-4 sentences per paragraph for improved readability. Otherwise an interesting piece. It goes with where in the country one lives.

BLAZZIN 05-02-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 1084003)
I missed the part where you kicked him in the nuts and then broke the arm he used to grab your neck.


+1 the minute he reached for my neck i would have hit him with a quitter so the last thing on his mind would be what kind of car i drive, and that buy American thing just sounds old school to me. Times have changed and people need to except it. What is really American anymore a Ford , Chevy, Dodge... ect
with foreign parts on them or so called foreign cars Nissan, Honda, Hyundai..ect
that have plants in the US??????

onzedge 05-02-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1084044)
Good luck living with the jerk next door. Imagine his America, where instead of rugged individualism, it is all about joining a group and doing the same thing.

That's right. It is like those who preach tolerance and acceptance as long as you think and act like them.

ImportConvert 05-02-2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector71 (Post 1083855)
Some aspects of this post may offend some members and that is NOT my intention. Please don't miss the main point. A new neighbor moved in a week ago. I saw he had a 67 GTO, totally restored, good, his wife a newer Pontiac sedan, and they also had a Chevy truck. I try not to judge but, having lived in this part of Missouri for 20 years, I have encountered a certain mentality that equates owning "foreign" cars as bad. I introduced myself and told him the previous owners were meticulous in their care of the home. He said, "Of course they were, or we wouldn't have bought it." His tone was a little smart a&$ but I shurgged it off. I told him they put a lot of time in the yard and so forth. He told me of course they did because that is the only kind of home they buy. I tried again. I commented on how nice they and all their new neighbors were. He said I would notice no change with them. I told him I keep to myself, mind my own business, and whatever he did on his property, house, driveway, etc. was none of my business. He stared at me without answering as if he didn't like what I said. I tried one more time. I commented on how nice his 67 GTO was and mentioned I had some old cars I played around with and hoped to get to them one day. He asked which kind? I told him 66 Plymouth Valiant convertible, 68 Barracuda, and a 68 Charger that was maybe more rust than metal. He then grabs me around the neck, I kid you not, and shakes me saying, "Then why are you driving Nissans!" My wife has a Sentra. He asked me again saying I should drive only American cars. So I had had enough. I told him I wasn't buying cars from companies whose unions gave money to elect people hostile to my political interests especially my liberty. He asked what I meant and I told him the 2nd Amendment. He then launches into talking points about no one needing a 35 round "clip." I explained my dad carried an M1 Garand in the Korean War and no one had a 35 round "clip." He then began to pepper me with one question after another asking a new one before I could answer and old one. He then tells me he is from Detroit, is a GM Auto worker, an assembler, and was transferred to Missouri. He told me he was union and a Democrat. He then tells me I am a teacher, (my neighbors told) and how do I feel about that. I told him I am not in the union and wouldn't join one because I don't want labor money going to Democrats or Republicans. He then tells me, "Well, I'm a true blue American. I'm American to the core, I drive American cars, am in the union, and a Democrat." In other words, if you are not like that, you are not an American. He then excused himself and went into his garage. I finished cutting the grass and then backed my red Z out of the garage and washed it, slowly, even though it was clean.

I call BS on the whole thing. If you were being honest about this, this massive chunk of text wouldn't exist in this form that currently strains my eyes.

theDreamer 05-02-2011 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084265)
I call BS on the whole thing. If you were being honest about this, this massive chunk of text wouldn't exist in this form that currently strains my eyes.

He could be a math teacher.

ImportConvert 05-02-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1084278)
He could be a math teacher.

Well I sure as hell hope he doesn't make his students do word problems. I mean, my spelling and whatnot are FAR from perfect, but that paragraph was off the charts.

OP: That sucks that your neighbor is such a closed-minded ***. I drive a GM and all that, but I love foreign competition. It's part of what inspires America/ns to do better, I think! Without competition, rot sets in.

onzedge 05-02-2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084265)
I call BS on the whole thing. If you were being honest about this, this massive chunk of text wouldn't exist in this form that currently strains my eyes.

Ha! :icon18: :owned:

Jjaden 05-02-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084265)
I call BS on the whole thing. If you were being honest about this, this massive chunk of text wouldn't exist in this form that currently strains my eyes.

LOL rep added

kenchan 05-02-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1084278)
He could be a math teacher.

that dont know how to type from his smartphone. :tup:

AlphaSnacks 05-02-2011 10:25 AM

I have a neighbor who's like that. Only owned American cars, mostly Chryslers from what I take: Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chrysler Pacifica, Dodge Magnum, Magnum SRT8, and now...dead broke with nothing. Hehe. But yeah, my neighbor is also a douche like that.

Jeffblue 05-02-2011 10:27 AM

i'm American and i use paragraphs :usa:

seriously though, that sucks that you had a run in with your neighbors. i like talking to people who have different taste in cars. i can appreciate american cars and how they are different from imports.

if someone busted my balls about not buying american, i would just shrug it off because honestly i don't care. So many 'American' corporations outsource all of their manufacturing overseas etc, so what is really 'American' made is pretty hard to determine.

With certain products, if all the parts are made in another country, and it is assembled in the USA, the company can say it is American made.

besides, us JDM guys stimulate the economy more with our grossly expensive aftermarket parts that cost way more than anything made for american cars for no particular reason. :p so go us.

I judge cars based on the car itself, not where it is made. Unless its made in Korea, Yugoslavia, or Mexico :bowrofl:

shadoquad 05-02-2011 10:31 AM

Heck, my neighbor loves my Dad's Z4 and my 370Z, and she's an old lady. But she's also about the most patriotic person I know. :D

Red__Zed 05-02-2011 10:32 AM

:icon14:

Econ 05-02-2011 10:36 AM

buying "american" is a joke. From USA today, percent of american cars made in america.

I laugh at people with the MUST BUY AMERICAN attitude, as they park their american car in a garage made completley from China products/manufacturing (along with almost everything else they own)


General Motors Corp.
Buick Lucerne 2007 85% USA MI
Buick Rendezvous 2007 40% Mexico
Buick Rainer 2007 86% USA OH
Buick Terazzo 2007 77% USA GA

Cadillac CTS 2007 75% USA MI
Cadillac Escalade 2007 70% USA TX
Cadillac DTS 2007 87% USA MI
Cadillac XLR 2007 85% USA KY
Cadillac SRX 2006 80% USA MI
Cadillac STS 2007 75% USA MI

Chevrolet Avalanche 2007 70% Mexico
Chevrolet Aveo 2007 4% S. Korea
Chevrolet Cobalt 2007 82% USA OH
Chevrolet Corvette 2007 85% USA KY
Chevrolet Colorado 2007 85% USA LA
Chevrolet Equinox 2007 50% Canada
Chevrolet Express Savana 2007 86% USA MO
Chevrolet HHR 2007 41% Mexico
Chevrolet Impala 2007 90% Canada
Chevrolet Malibu 2007 86% USA KS
Chevrolet Silverado 2007 90% USA MI,IN, Canada
Chevrolet Suburban 2007 70% USA TX,WI, Mexico
Chevrolet Trailblazer 2007 86% USA OH
Chevrolet Tahoe 2007 70% USA TX,WI
Chevrolet Uplander 2007 77% USA GA

GMC Canyon 2007 85% USA LA
GMC Envoy/XL 2007 86% USA OH
GMC Savana 2007 86% USA MO
GMC Sierra 2007 90% USA MI,IN, Canada
GMC Yukon 2007 70% USA TX,WI

Hummer H3 2007 86% USA OH

Pontiac G6 2007 86% USA MI
Pontiac GTO 2006 20% Austrailia
Pontiac Torrent 2007 50% Canada
Pontiac Solstice 2007 66% USA DE
Pontiac Vibe 2007 65% USA CA

Saab 9-3 2007 1% Sweden
Saab 9-5 2007 1% Sweden
Saab 9-7X 2007 86% USA OH


Saturn Aura 2007 86% USA KS
Saturn Ion 2007 85% USA TN
Saturn Relay 2007 77% USA GA

FORD Motor Company
Ford Edge 2007 95% Canada
Ford Crown Victoria 2007 90% Canada
Ford Econoline 2006 95% USA OH
Ford Escape 2008 65% USA MO
Ford Escape Hybrid 2007 65% USA MO
Ford Expedition 2007 95% USA MI
Ford Explorer 2007 80% USA KY
Ford Focus 2007 75% USA MI
Ford Freestyle 2007 85% USA IL
Ford F-150 2007 90% USA MI,KY,VA
Ford Mustang 2007 70% USA MI
Ford Ranger 2007 80% USA MN
Ford Five Hundred 2007 80% USA MI
Ford Fusion 2007 50% Mexico

CHRYSLER LLC
Jeep Commander 2007 73% USA MI
Jeep Grand Cherokee 2007 76% USA MI
Jeep Liberty 2007 80% USA OH
Jeep Wrangler 2007 76% USA OH
Jeep Wrangler Unl. 2007 79% USA OH
Jeep Patriot 2007 69% USA IL

Chrysler 300 2007 75% Canada
Chrysler Crossfire 2006 0% Germany
Chrysler Pacifica 2006 82% Canada
Chrysler PT Cruiser 2007 35% Mexico
Chrysler PT Cru. Con. 2007 31% Mexico
Chrysler Sebr. Con 2006 82% USA MI
Chrysler Sebr. Sedan 2006 77% USA MI
Chrysler Town&Country 2006 82% USA Mo., Canada

Dodge Caliber 2007 69% USA IL
Dodge Caravan 2006 80% USA Mo., Canada
Dodge Charger 2007 72% Canada
Dodge Compass 2007 69% USA IL
Dodge Dakota 2006 77% USA MI
Dodge Durango 2006 79% USA DE
Dodge Grand Caravan 2007 83% Canada
Dodge Magnum 2006 74% Canada
Dodge Nitro 2007 76% USA OH
Dodge Ram Pickup 2007 72% USA Mo., Mexico
Dodge Avenger 2007 N/A USA MI
Dodge Viper 2006 85% USA MI

AND HERE IS NISSAN

Nissan Motors
Infiniti FX45 2006 5% Japan
Infiniti G35 2007 5% Japan
Infiniti M45 2006 0% Japan
Infiniti Q45 2006 5% Japan
Infiniti QX56 2007 65% USA MS

Nissan 350z 2007 0% Japan
Nissan Altima 2007 65% USA MS,TN
Nissan Armada 2006 60% USA MS
Nissan Frontier Truck 2006 60% USA TN
Nissan Sentra 2006 28% Mexico
Nissan Maxima 2007 60% USA TN
Nissan Murano 2007 0% Japan
Nissan Pathfinder 2006 60% USA TN
Nissan Quest 2006 60% USA MS
Nissan Titan 2007 65% USA MS
Nissan Xterra 2007 65% USA TN

jaedub 05-02-2011 10:39 AM

Too long for me to read :shakes head: Ill eventually understand it by what others have to say

m4a1mustang 05-02-2011 10:42 AM

I hate the whole "Buy American" nonsense. I buy whatever the hell I want to buy. I know on the 2011 Mustangs about 40% of the car is foreign. A lot of it is made by Hitachi and its subsidiaries.

daisuke149 05-02-2011 10:49 AM

yeah buyign "american" is kinda bull. Buying a Nissan keeps american's working too (the guys at the dealerships, shops etc) Its not a complete one way street.

Alot of them are assembled here.

And lastly, ignorant *** bastards just dont understand what a global economy means and the fact that the US cannot and could never have been self sufficient. We need the trade, and to keep trade up we need to also purchase foreign items.

Also, if for many many years, American products werent kinda crap and then also expensive due to *cough* unions *cough* it would help...

P.S tell im hes unamerican for trying to take away your freedom's and choices. Follow that up with he should move to a communist country where people tell him what he can and cannot buy. He'll love that.

PapoZalsa 05-02-2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 1084003)
I missed the part where you kicked him in the nuts and then broke the arm he used to grab your neck.

:iagree: :bowrofl: :roflpuke2: :icon18:

ImportConvert 05-02-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1084432)
I hate the whole "Buy American" nonsense. I buy whatever the hell I want to buy. I know on the 2011 Mustangs about 40% of the car is foreign. A lot of it is made by Hitachi and its subsidiaries.

+1, buy the best car. If you support America, then why would you humor an inferior product for the sake of its brand (if that is the case)? It would just encourage lazyness, sloth, and we wouldn't be where we are today if that was all we encouraged. We would already be where we are headed :shakes head:

kenchan 05-02-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084595)
+1, buy the best car. If you support America, then why would you humor an inferior product for the sake of its brand (if that is the case)?

i thought i read "sake" as in alcohol. :icon17:

ImportConvert 05-02-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1084602)
i thought i read "sake" as in alcohol. :icon17:

I really do have to ask. Are you Asian or Oriental?

kenchan 05-02-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084629)
I really do have to ask. Are you Asian or Oriental?

are you an idiot or a f-ck up? :tup:

christian370z 05-02-2011 11:31 AM

I think it is now time to straight pipe the Z so that he can have the pleasure of hearing that unAmerican V6 blasting his house every day. ;)

ImportConvert 05-02-2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1084648)
are you an idiot or a f-ck up? :tup:

That's what I am trying to figure out about you. Are you some wannabe playing Asian with F&F posters on the wall who likes typing a few lines now and then, or are you the real deal and the language and culture are truly yours, sans FF posters.

onzedge 05-02-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084684)
That's what I am trying to figure out about you. Are you some wannabe playing Asian with F&F posters on the wall who likes typing a few lines now and then, or are you the real deal and the language and culture are truly yours, sans FF posters.

I think Mr Kenchan is the real deal.

kenchan 05-02-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1084684)
That's what I am trying to figure out about you. Are you some wannabe playing Asian with F&F posters on the wall who likes typing a few lines now and then, or are you the real deal and the language and culture are truly yours, sans FF posters.

:bowrofl: wow this is epic.

are you referring to phelan? :icon17: (jk phelan :D)

ImportConvert 05-02-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1084690)
I think Mr Kenchan is the real deal.

Which is why I asked. If he is Asian, more power to him, awesome that he embraces his culture!


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