Nissan Ester Oil

Zless@arizona · 11-18-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

'65 Rambler 90K miles on the engine the engine still ran fine. 1983 Subaru wagon 200K miles '98 Dodge Durango 90K miles ...they've never had anything in them except for 5W30 non-synthetic oil (mostly Pennzoil). just make sure you put in the correct W oil for your driving conditions (for most, that would be 5W30), make sure it has API certification, and change it regularly at 3K to 5K mile and you will be fine no matter what you brand or type (non-synthetic, synthetic, or synthetic blend).

No UOA?!!! You are not qualified to make any of the statements above! Most current data suggests that oil changes at the 3-5k frequency actually hurt the engine more than extending the mileage. No definitive mileage endpoint exists at this time. Staying with a 5W-30 for a 200,000 mile vehicle violates any/all manufacturer's maintenance schedule. How much 5W-30 oil per 1000 miles was your 200,000 mile Subaru using? "Any 5W-30 will be fine for the 370Z engine"?!!! What???!!!! Anyone reading this: DO NOT USE 100% PETROLEUM BASED GROUP II OIL IN THE 370Z ENGINE!!! This thread is making me tired and pissed. "Ignorance is Bliss." Later...

Modshack · 11-18-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zless@arizona

DO NOT USE 100% PETROLEUM BASED GROUP II OIL IN THE 370Z ENGINE!!! This thread is making me tired and pissed. "Ignorance is Bliss." Later...

This post reinforced the "ignorance is bliss".......I'm sure you got this definitive information from the Ranger and Tahoe forums.....Carry on!

Zless@arizona · 11-18-2009, 11:22 PM

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This post reinforced the "ignorance is bliss".......I'm sure you got this definitive information from the Ranger and Tahoe forums.....Carry on!

Mod: I will resist the temptation to suggest that my posts are "over your head." This site exists to help other Z owners. Your acerbic comments do not support my belief. Maybe I am mistaken. Please copy/paste my comments from the Ranger and Tahoe sites to which you refer, and let the other Z members decide. R/S Greg

FricFrac · 11-19-2009, 04:37 PM

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Mod: I will resist the temptation to suggest that my posts are "over your head." This site exists to help other Z owners. Your acerbic comments do not support my belief. Maybe I am mistaken. Please copy/paste my comments from the Ranger and Tahoe sites to which you refer, and let the other Z members decide. R/S Greg

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

Modshack · 11-19-2009, 06:23 PM

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You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

Thanks Fric!....I think the experienced members here see through this BS. Seems a rash of New members lately who seem to know it all...

+1..

antennahead · 11-19-2009, 06:25 PM

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You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

rcm2525 · 11-20-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

Good for you fric.

370Zsteve · 11-20-2009, 07:19 AM

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You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

+1 rep

VCuomo · 11-18-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zless@arizona

No UOA?!!! You are not qualified to make any of the statements above! Most current data suggests that oil changes at the 3-5k frequency actually hurt the engine more than extending the mileage. No definitive mileage endpoint exists at this time. Staying with a 5W-30 for a 200,000 mile vehicle violates any/all manufacturer's maintenance schedule. How much 5W-30 oil per 1000 miles was your 200,000 mile Subaru using? "Any 5W-30 will be fine for the 370Z engine"?!!! What???!!!! Anyone reading this: DO NOT USE 100% PETROLEUM BASED GROUP II OIL IN THE 370Z ENGINE!!! This thread is making me tired and pissed. "Ignorance is Bliss." Later...

And just what are your qualifications.

I'll say it again:

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...just make sure you put in the correct W oil for your driving conditions (for most, that would be 5W30), make sure it has API certification, and change it regularly at 3K to 5K mile intervals and you will be fine no matter what you brand or type (non-synthetic, synthetic, or synthetic blend) you choose.

Zless@arizona · 11-18-2009, 11:27 PM

[QUOTE=VCuomo;285795]And just what are your qualifications?QUOTE]I'll key a public telephone number on this site's PM, you call me, then I'll tell you. Or we can meet face to face. Unless you are a chemist with focus on petroleum refining, you are way out of your league. You want to play hardball? BRING IT!

370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 06:58 AM

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And just what are your qualifications?QUOTE]I'll key a public telephone number on this site's PM, you call me, then I'll tell you. Or we can meet face to face. Unless you are a chemist with focus on petroleum refining, you are way out of your league. You want to play hardball? BRING IT!

Wow, what a douche.

semtex · 11-19-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

And just what are your qualifications?

I'll key a public telephone number on this site's PM, you call me, then I'll tell you. Or we can meet face to face. Unless you are a chemist with focus on petroleum refining, you are way out of your league. You want to play hardball? BRING IT!

Hmm....so what's the underlying logic here? That unless someone is an expert in a certain field, they're not entitled to question another individual's credentials in said field? Seems a little silly, don't you think? I mean, he's just asking what your qualifications are; he's not challenging them. Under your logic, if some guy expresses an opinion on, say, health care reform, nobody is entitled to ask him what his qualifications are unless they themselves work in the medical field with a focus on health care law. Or if some guy takes a position on troop levels in Afghanistan, nobody is entitled to inquire as to what his qualifications are unless they happen to be a West Point graduate with a degree in military strategy, right? Because you know, that would be completely uncalled for; it'd be playing hardball, in your words. It'd be grounds for a face to face throwdown!

VCuomo · 11-19-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

And just what are your qualifications?

I'll key a public telephone number on this site's PM, you call me, then I'll tell you. Or we can meet face to face. Unless you are a chemist with focus on petroleum refining, you are way out of your league. You want to play hardball? BRING IT!

Well, let's see - you questioned my qualifications, and then I politely asked you for yours and you take offense? And you still haven't stated your qualifications.

And nope, I'm not a chemist with a focus on petroleum refining. But I do have a chemistry and engineering background.

So exactly what hardball do you want to play? Even Nissan does not require the use of synthetic oil - go read the Z's Owner's Manual and see for yourself. Or does Nissan not know what they're doing?

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370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Well, let's see - you questioned my qualifications, and then I politely asked you for yours and you take offense? And you still haven't stated your qualifications.

And nope, I'm not a chemist with a focus on petroleum refining. But I do have a chemistry and engineering background.

So exactly what hardball do you want to play? Even Nissan does not require the use of synthetic oil - go read the Z's Owner's Manual and see for yourself. Or does Nissan not know what they're doing?

Now

Careful, man. He might be looking for a date!

VCuomo · 11-19-2009, 06:59 PM

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Careful, man. He might be looking for a date!

11-18-2009, 11:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Zless@arizona Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tallahassee Florida Posts: 71 Drives: '01 Chvrlt Tahoe 4x3 Rep Power: 17	[QUOTE=VCuomo;285795]And just what are *your* qualifications?QUOTE]I'll key a public telephone number on this site's PM, you call me, then I'll tell you. Or we can meet face to face. Unless you are a chemist with focus on petroleum refining, you are way out of your league. You want to play hardball? BRING IT! __________________ The only U.S.A.-available Mobil1 oil that is BMW LL01 is 0W-40...most of M1's engine oil is hydrocracked/GIII junk.