Nissan Ester Oil

370Zsteve · 03-11-2010, 07:30 PM

LiquidZ · 03-11-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Did you put Ester oil in your engine or you are assuming it came with it?

BTW, I went to my local dealer service department today. Asked the service guy, Do you guys use Ester oil? He looked at me like I was crazy.

Then I asked, What oil do you guys use on the 370Zs? He grabbed the phone and called someone, comes back to me and says "Valvoline 5W30".

Then he told me a couple war stories about the oil, I was rolling. Told him thanks and left.

I dropped the factory fill, whatever it was, and replaced it with Nissan's oil prior to storage.

VCuomo · 03-11-2010, 01:20 PM

Why are a lot of you guys using 0W30 instead of the recommended 5W30? Just curious...

homeslice · 03-12-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Why are a lot of you guys using 0W30 instead of the recommended 5W30? Just curious...

AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Severe Service is the very best and is a 35,000 mile/1-year oil. Change the AMSOIL EAO oil filter every 25,000 miles/1-year. If you do not put 35,000 miles per year on then the 5W-30 (ASL) or the 10W-30 (ATM) are also excellent choices and both are 25,000 mile/1-year lubricants. All AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants meet and far exceed all manufacturer specifications as well as API Specifications.

The AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Severe Service is a racing oil and of a different chemistry than the 10W-30 and 5W-30. They often use the 0W-30 in the 800 Hp Ford/Roush Nascars as it has a shear strength better than most 50W oils and transfers heat more efficiently than heavier oils. Only about 60% of the engine cooling is done by the coolant and the rest is done by the oil via heat transfer. The 10W-30 and 5W-30 would not be good choices for racing. The 5W-30 ASL product code and 10W-30 ATM are both 25,000 mile/1-year oils where the 0W-30 is a 35,000 mile/1-year oil. The 4-ball wear test is also run at a different load, temp and RPM than the other 2 products so they cannot be compared in that area. The 0W-30 does not thin out to a 0W as it gets hot. It stays a 30W just like the 10W-30 and the 5W-30. They are ALL 30 weight oils and each one can be beneficial in a specific application. The 10W-30 is a better oil under certain instances for higher mileage engines as it has a lower volatility.

Matt · 03-12-2010, 10:00 AM

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If you do not put 35,000 miles per year on then the 5W-30 (ASL) or the 10W-30 (ATM) are also excellent choices and both are 25,000 mile/1-year lubricants.

You mean we have guys *planning* on driving 35k miles in a year?

Also, regardless of what type of oil I'm using, and what the manufacturer says, I'm not going an entire year without changing my oil. But that's just me.

Modshack · 03-12-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by homeslice

AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Severe Service is the very best and is a 35,000 mile/1-year oil.

Do you sell Mary Kay too?....Please let us know as we have some Wives/Girlfriends that have some miles on them and need to nip that wear in the bud.......

semtex · 03-12-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Do you sell Mary Kay too?....Please let us know as we have some Wives/Girlfriends that have some miles on them and need to nip that wear in the bud.......

Nah, not Mary Kay. My money's on Amway, with a big box of motivational cassette tapes.

370Zsteve · 03-13-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Do you sell Mary Kay too?....Please let us know as we have some Wives/Girlfriends that have some miles on them and need to nip that wear in the bud.......

370Zsteve · 03-13-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by homeslice

AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Severe Service is the very best and is a 35,000 mile/1-year oil. Change the AMSOIL EAO oil filter every 25,000 miles/1-year. If you do not put 35,000 miles per year on then the 5W-30 (ASL) or the 10W-30 (ATM) are also excellent choices and both are 25,000 mile/1-year lubricants. All AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants meet and far exceed all manufacturer specifications as well as API Specifications.

The AMSOIL Signature Series 0W-30 Severe Service is a racing oil and of a different chemistry than the 10W-30 and 5W-30. They often use the 0W-30 in the 800 Hp Ford/Roush Nascars as it has a shear strength better than most 50W oils and transfers heat more efficiently than heavier oils. Only about 60% of the engine cooling is done by the coolant and the rest is done by the oil via heat transfer. The 10W-30 and 5W-30 would not be good choices for racing. The 5W-30 ASL product code and 10W-30 ATM are both 25,000 mile/1-year oils where the 0W-30 is a 35,000 mile/1-year oil. The 4-ball wear test is also run at a different load, temp and RPM than the other 2 products so they cannot be compared in that area. The 0W-30 does not thin out to a 0W as it gets hot. It stays a 30W just like the 10W-30 and the 5W-30. They are ALL 30 weight oils and each one can be beneficial in a specific application. The 10W-30 is a better oil under certain instances for higher mileage engines as it has a lower volatility.

dalparadise · 03-11-2010, 08:40 PM

Got my first oil change today (free as part of initial service call). There is a small upcharge for Nissan Ester oil if you want it.

A Nissan Ester oil change costs $64 INCLUDING ALL TAXES AND FEES at Baker-Jackson Nissan in Houston. Compared to some stories I've heard, that is a real bargain.

I'll say this, my car was noticeably smoother and quieter after the Ester went in. My guess is that the factory fill is not Ester. This truly is the most dramatic change I've ever felt after an oil change. In my opinion, it's well worth it, even at full price.

Hi-Step'n370Z · 03-12-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dalparadise

my car was noticeably smoother and quieter after the Ester went in. My guess is that the factory fill is not Ester.

Is that true? Nissan doesn't put Ester Oil in at the factory???? Can anyone confirm this? I went through the owners manual, and could not find conformation one way or the other.

Seems like they should have put in Ester. Up to now, I was under the impression that they did!

gumpy · 03-11-2010, 10:43 PM

My dealer is willing to take 60 bucks of a 209 intermediate service fee if i provide the oil.

What champions. As to which oil I dunno yet, my local Autobahn has Motul, Pennzoil and Red Line... I guess I'll get the one with the best marketing claim about being the best... no seriously... i have no idea what i'll get and may just use the cheapest synthetic available considering i'll be sticking strictly to the 6 month service interval and I don't redline it...

semtex · 03-12-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gumpy

My dealer is willing to take 60 bucks of a 209 intermediate service fee if i provide the oil.

What champions. As to which oil I dunno yet, my local Autobahn has Motul, Pennzoil and Red Line... I guess I'll get the one with the best marketing claim about being the best... no seriously... i have no idea what i'll get and may just use the cheapest synthetic available considering i'll be sticking strictly to the 6 month service interval and I don't redline it...

You saw that I provided the UOA results for Redline at 9k miles, right?

Frozenr6 · 03-12-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

You saw that I provided the UOA results for Redline at 9k miles, right?

Has anybody else done the OA with other oils, I dont mean to be a jerk but as good as that report is, it is relatively useless without comparitive data?

semtex · 03-12-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frozenr6

Has anybody else done the OA with other oils, I dont mean to be a jerk but as good as that report is, it is relatively useless without comparitive data?

I don't entirely agree with that statement. While it may be useless in the context of a 'which oil is best?' discussion until we see UOAs with other oils, by itself it's at least useful in that it shows Redline does a good job at protecting this engine. Does it do a better job than any other oil? Couldn't tell ya. But the UOA I did with Redline at least didn't throw any red flags, like some other oils did on the 350Z (Motul comes to mind). Hopefully as time progresses, other 370Z owners using other oils will share their UOA results, and we can start doing side by side comparisons. But for now, this UOA at least tells us that Redline is a safe choice.

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dalparadise The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 354 Drives: 2010 Z Roadster T/S Rep Power: 18	Got my first oil change today (free as part of initial service call). There is a small upcharge for Nissan Ester oil if you want it. A Nissan Ester oil change costs $64 INCLUDING ALL TAXES AND FEES at Baker-Jackson Nissan in Houston. Compared to some stories I've heard, that is a real bargain. I'll say this, my car was noticeably smoother and quieter after the Ester went in. My guess is that the factory fill is not Ester. This truly is the most dramatic change I've ever felt after an oil change. In my opinion, it's well worth it, even at full price. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite Roadster - Tour/Sport/6MT/GReddy SE catback/B&M short shift If the top is up, it must be parked.

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VCuomo Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 887 Drives: BMW 335i Sport Rep Power: 19	Why are a lot of you guys using 0W30 instead of the recommended 5W30? Just curious...

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gumpy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 449 Drives: 09 370z white manual Rep Power: 17	My dealer is willing to take 60 bucks of a 209 intermediate service fee if i provide the oil. What champions. As to which oil I dunno yet, my local Autobahn has Motul, Pennzoil and Red Line... I guess I'll get the one with the best marketing claim about being the best... no seriously... i have no idea what i'll get and may just use the cheapest synthetic available considering i'll be sticking strictly to the 6 month service interval and I don't redline it...