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nuTinmuch 01-15-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by homeslice (Post 361132)
But you're wrong.

lol.

Oh this thread. This thread.

I'm pretty sure it could've ended 15 pages ago and we would still be in the same place.

LiquidZ 01-15-2010 07:02 AM

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Homeslice
Just find a dealer who will do you the favor of selling it at cost. Some of them will do it. At least the on-line ones will. The local retail shops can't afford it because of the overhead.
I actually sell Amsoil products at cost to customers. In my opinion, this is a much more appealing alternative to people than becoming a preferred customer.

This is how it works:

I simply place an order with Amsoil and have it delivered to the customer. I pay the bill with my credit card, and request the funds via PayPal from the customer. That's it.

Here is an order I placed recently to give you an idea:
1 Gallon of 0W-30 Signature Series -> MSRP = $41.40
1 Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter -> MSRP = $16.90
3 Quarts of 0W-30 Signature Series -> MSRP = $31.50

As it stands, this order costs $89.80. Since I'm a dealer, I can pay for the order at cost, and have it shipped to my customer. The customer paid $69.05 for the product at cost.

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NismoZ
Also I won't go a whole year without changing my oil, even on Amsoil. Sorry to say the VQ is hard on oil and over 6k is pushing it. I also race, and me pushing it past 3-5k is not a smart idea either. Reason why I change more often and oil costs more for me.
I completely agree. I tell my customers to stick with factory OCI. If you absolutely must run longer intervals, you need an oil analysis first. However, I still don't recommend it.

As far as Amsoil salesmen go, I completely agree. I'm doing my best to change the stigma associated with them. I'm just an enthusiast trying to help other enthusiasts out.

blackflag 02-02-2010 05:08 PM

So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

:ughdance:

6MT 02-02-2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 385564)
So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

:ughdance:

Oh no!! Hide everyone!!:wtf2:

SigPapa226 02-02-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 385564)
So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

:ughdance:

Read my post under Engine & Drivetrain, "Oil Nerds Info" and then make up your own mind.

blackflag 02-02-2010 05:33 PM

I know, I was just kidding. I've read all the info, and the engineer in me says to use the Nissan spec. The cheap bastard in me says to use a standard synthetic/semi-synthetic.

Mike 02-02-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 385596)
I know, I was just kidding. I've read all the info, and the engineer in me says to use the Nissan spec. The cheap bastard in me says to use a standard synthetic/semi-synthetic.

I'm no engineer, but my train of thought is that nissan spent a heck of a lot of money developing this oil, so I should probably use it. They could have gone the easy way, and contracted with mobil 1 and put it on the oil cap like on my corvette, but they must have had a reason to make their own.

SigPapa226 02-02-2010 07:01 PM

I'm not an expert but have done a lot of reading on the subject the last few weeks both on this forum and on the WWW. Still learning, but for now I plan to use the Nissan Ester Oil in my 2010 roadster and I am going to try Pennzoil Platinum in my 300 ZX TT (used Pennzoil yellow/dino for almost 20 years and the car is still running great).

Regular changes and good filters may be a bigger driver rather than the brand (of several good oil brands).

Daishi 02-02-2010 07:30 PM

Any comments on Redline? some people say its amazing some people say its not lol. but thats the same with just about everything lol.

blackflag 02-02-2010 08:28 PM

I think that's right - Sig and Mike. If it were just a regular engine, it wouldn't bother me so much. But since this engine has some unique components, that oil is specified for a reason.

(Though I still may end up using a regular synthetic because I'm so cheap. Or maybe I'll trade back and forth.)

:happydance:

VCuomo 02-03-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 385787)
I think that's right - Sig and Mike. If it were just a regular engine, it wouldn't bother me so much. But since this engine has some unique components, that oil is specified for a reason.

(Though I still may end up using a regular synthetic because I'm so cheap. Or maybe I'll trade back and forth.)

:happydance:

Man, it cracks me up that the "What oil should I use?" question keeps coming up. The answer, of course, is "RTFM", but here it is one more time...

The 2009 Nissan 370Z Owner's Manual just says to use a 5W-30 oil that is API certified. Here is the quote straight from the 2009 manual:
Select only engine oils that meet the American
Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International
Lubricant Standardization and Approval
Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE viscosity
standard. These oils have the API
certification mark on the front of the container.
Oils which do not have the specified quality
label should not be used as they could cause
engine damage.
There is a one line reference to the Ester Oil in note 3 on page 9-2:
NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.
That's it. Note that the Ester oil is recommended, not required. Basically, use an API certified 5W-30 oil (or appropriate weight oil for your driving conditions) and change it and the oil filter at regular (reasonable) intervals, and you will be fine.

If you want to go crazy on this topic (and have many hours to kill), head on over to BobIsTheOilGuy and start reading... But be prepared for major head spinnage...

370Zsteve 02-03-2010 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 361340)
lol.

Oh this thread. This thread.

I'm pretty sure it could've ended 15 pages ago and we would still be in the same place.

:icon17:

370Zsteve 02-03-2010 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 386116)
Man, it cracks me up that the "What oil should I use?" question keeps coming up. The answer, of course, is "RTFM", but here it is one more time...

The 2009 Nissan 370Z Owner's Manual just says to use a 5W-30 oil that is API certified. Here is the quote straight from the 2009 manual:
Select only engine oils that meet the American
Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International
Lubricant Standardization and Approval
Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE viscosity
standard. These oils have the API
certification mark on the front of the container.
Oils which do not have the specified quality
label should not be used as they could cause
engine damage.
There is a one line reference to the Ester Oil in note 3 on page 9-2:
NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.
That's it. Note that the Ester oil is recommended, not required. Basically, use an API certified 5W-30 oil (or appropriate weight oil for your driving conditions) and change it and the oil filter at regular (reasonable) intervals, and you will be fine.

If you want to go crazy on this topic (and have many hours to kill), head on over to BobIsTheOilGuy and start reading... But be prepared for major head spinnage...

They have to make the disclaimer. However, as one poster stated, "Nissan developed the oil specifically for this engine". Put used french fry oil in for all I care. Just make sure it's 5W-30 fry oil.

VCuomo 02-03-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 386167)
They have to make the disclaimer. However, as one poster stated, "Nissan developed the oil specifically for this engine". Put used french fry oil in for all I care. Just make sure it's 5W-30 fry oil.

(In Homer Simpson voice) "Mmmmmmmmm....french fries..." :p

IDZRVIT 02-03-2010 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daishi (Post 385699)
Any comments on Redline? some people say its amazing some people say its not lol. but thats the same with just about everything lol.

Redline contains esters in their formula.

Nissan ester oil ~ Redline (ester) oil ~ "insert brand that contains esters" oil

Keyword is ester. So how's that for a summary of which is the "best" oil to use in your Nissan?


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