why the 370z doesnt sell:::

Niche79 · 04-04-2011, 11:55 PM

This topic nails home with ppl trying to buy older gas sippers for loads more than they are worth. Get offers nonstop saying how much for your older 91 prelude. Guy from work with a tahoe said name a price and ill take it. I said 3k! Thats over book and hes like ok but of course never brought the money. Last time gas was 4 bucks and change a gallon, I remember the old metro's and ford aspires were going for thousands! When normally they were worth maybe 800? haha I think the general Z owner has a bit more cash and on top of that, they have another car thats their DD.

Good topic though.

cossie1600 · 04-05-2011, 12:04 AM

People are stupid to pay that much money for an old econobox, there are a lot of people with no brains out there.

Husky Downs · 04-05-2011, 12:07 AM

A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous.

Or...

B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - but is open to "other" things and let's you play video games as long as you want, and is content with being middle class; doesn't need to live like one of the Kardashians.

Not a tough decision, least not for me - B is the clear winner.

"B" is basically the "Z" and maybe can even be lumped into sports cars in general. In a time when gas is so expensive and it's getting tough to justify spending $85 to fill up the tank every 7 days (minimum), the "Z" and sports car in general like somebody above stated, all things considered is a pretty efficient car - gas wise.

So while everybody out there is walking around with their "trophy" wives, they see us (Z and Sports Car owners alike) and they envy us. Sure they get some perks with their wives, but as a whole - we are MUCH happier and they are dying inside wishing they were as happy as we all are.

Weird analogy, but I see it this way. It's like, people can drive their Prius' (which actually hurt the environment more than a Civic) or their Chevy Volt etc. to save gas, but are they TRULY happy in it? Sure it saves them on gas (i.e. great sex, beautiful etc.), but does it feel like a Z or sports car? Does it look like one? Handle like one?

If gas were $8 a gallon, ask yourselves this question, if you're a Z/sports car owner - would you REALLY get rid of your ride to give in to the times?

NOT ME!

I'd adapt and like some of you have stated above, I'd find other means to get to and from, but NEVER would I consider getting rid of my Z or sports car. And if I couldn't afford two cars - I'd find a way TO afford the gas by giving up other things that cost me on a daily/monthly/weekly/yearly basis. After all, we are Z owners damn it and all these people with their electric cars, solar cars, flux capacitor vehicles, trucks, Hybrid's and so on will eventually get rid of their cars for the next best thing (kind of like people who try DROID then the iPhone and realize how awesome iOS truly is LOL).

As for us - WE WON'T - because unlike them, our cars are INSTANT classics. We have a sense of pride and loyalty in a way these others simply cannot appreciate. And when sh*t hits the fan one day and all the car company's abandon gasoline because it's $20 a gallon - I trust that Nissan will make a Z which will go with the times and that too will be an instant classic. Because we understand this - we will own it and in the end, in the grand scheme of things guys, even though gas is just about $5 a gallon now, it's what - $15-$20 more total than what we're used to paying?

Guys, we spend that on ******** every week. Some of us are smokers (not I), some of us are pot heads (not I), some of us are addicted to video games (maybe me) etc. Whatever our vice is, if we budget correctly and FIND that extra $15-$20 a week for gas, TO ME that's a great trade-off.

So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE...

BECAUSE DAMN IT! WE ARE Z OWNERS - IT'S NOT A CULT, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT, NOR IS IT A FAD...IT'S A CHOICE WE MADE...LIKE OUR Z FOREFATHER'S BEFORE US WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR US TODAY...

IT'S A WAY OF LIFE!

LMAO!!!!!!! Okay, I'm done ranting.

SiXK · 04-05-2011, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs

A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous.

Or...

B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - ...

Looks like its "A" for me.

shoopajae10 · 04-05-2011, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs

A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous.

Or...

B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - but is open to "other" things and let's you play video games as long as you want, and is content with being middle class; doesn't need to live like one of the Kardashians.

Not a tough decision, least not for me - B is the clear winner.

"B" is basically the "Z" and maybe can even be lumped into sports cars in general. In a time when gas is so expensive and it's getting tough to justify spending $85 to fill up the tank every 7 days (minimum), the "Z" and sports car in general like somebody above stated, all things considered is a pretty efficient car - gas wise.

So while everybody out there is walking around with their "trophy" wives, they see us (Z and Sports Car owners alike) and they envy us. Sure they get some perks with their wives, but as a whole - we are MUCH happier and they are dying inside wishing they were as happy as we all are.

Weird analogy, but I see it this way. It's like, people can drive their Prius' (which actually hurt the environment more than a Civic) or their Chevy Volt etc. to save gas, but are they TRULY happy in it? Sure it saves them on gas (i.e. great sex, beautiful etc.), but does it feel like a Z or sports car? Does it look like one? Handle like one?

If gas were $8 a gallon, ask yourselves this question, if you're a Z/sports car owner - would you REALLY get rid of your ride to give in to the times?

NOT ME!

I'd adapt and like some of you have stated above, I'd find other means to get to and from, but NEVER would I consider getting rid of my Z or sports car. And if I couldn't afford two cars - I'd find a way TO afford the gas by giving up other things that cost me on a daily/monthly/weekly/yearly basis. After all, we are Z owners damn it and all these people with their electric cars, solar cars, flux capacitor vehicles, trucks, Hybrid's and so on will eventually get rid of their cars for the next best thing (kind of like people who try DROID then the iPhone and realize how awesome iOS truly is LOL).

As for us - WE WON'T - because unlike them, our cars are INSTANT classics. We have a sense of pride and loyalty in a way these others simply cannot appreciate. And when sh*t hits the fan one day and all the car company's abandon gasoline because it's $20 a gallon - I trust that Nissan will make a Z which will go with the times and that too will be an instant classic. Because we understand this - we will own it and in the end, in the grand scheme of things guys, even though gas is just about $5 a gallon now, it's what - $15-$20 more total than what we're used to paying?

Guys, we spend that on ******** every week. Some of us are smokers (not I), some of us are pot heads (not I), some of us are addicted to video games (maybe me) etc. Whatever our vice is, if we budget correctly and FIND that extra $15-$20 a week for gas, TO ME that's a great trade-off.

So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE...

BECAUSE DAMN IT! WE ARE Z OWNERS - IT'S NOT A CULT, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT, NOR IS IT A FAD...IT'S A CHOICE WE MADE...LIKE OUR Z FOREFATHER'S BEFORE US WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR US TODAY...

IT'S A WAY OF LIFE!

LMAO!!!!!!! Okay, I'm done ranting.

Im ready for battle!!!!!!

christian370z · 04-05-2011, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs

So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE...

Ahahahaha, that's awesome!

SeattleLion · 04-07-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky Downs

Weird analogy, but I see it this way. It's like, people can drive their Prius' (which actually hurt the environment more than a Civic) or their Chevy Volt etc. to save gas, but are they TRULY happy in it? Sure it saves them on gas (i.e. great sex, beautiful etc.), but does it feel like a Z or sports car? Does it look like one? Handle like one?

Funny you should mention that. I bought a 2010 Prius in July of 2009. I traded it in for a 2010 370Z in September of 2010. It was an expensive trade but the simple fact is that I hated to drive the Prius. Yes, I got 45mpg, and yes it had adaptive cruise control, steering assist, automatic parking, blah blah blah. The simple fact was that it was absolutly no fun to drive. None. So now gas costs me twice as much, but I am enjoying my daily drive to work. The Prius was absolutely numb. Pickup wasn't bad, but if you drove it hard, mileage went down into the 30's mpg. But it was still totally boring. I never regret that move.

Interestingly, the other day when I was returning to my car from a store, a woman was putting a package into her 2010 Prius. She looked over and said, "That's a really beautiful car". I thanked her and told her I traded a 2010 Prius to get my Z. She replied, "Looking at your car I was thinking that I should do that too. This thing is no fun to drive."

It comes down to values. Does economy trump pleasure. My vote is NO!
By the way, my Z is in the shop today getting some of the clear bra replaced (minor parking lot damage). I rented a G37 from Enterprise. It's a very interesting feeling, getting out of the Z and right into the G37. I know the two cars share a lot of parts. It's immediately obvious. It's also less fun to drive than the Z. Nice car, virtually identical cabin tech, but slower and tuned much more conservatively. Yup, I made the right choice.

m4a1mustang · 04-07-2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleLion

It comes down to values. Does economy trump pleasure. My vote is NO!

cossie1600 · 04-05-2011, 12:27 AM

Wow, I am speechless

Z_ealot · 04-05-2011, 12:28 AM

i'd ride a bicycle the 10 miles to my place of work if i needed to save money on gas before the thought of even getting rid of a Z entered my head, then again thats just me, i budget to the extreme when i want to keep something i really want lol.

m4a1mustang · 04-05-2011, 08:10 AM

Manufacturers spend money on advertising when it's worth it to do so. Would NISSAN see any real gain if they ran a bunch of ads dedicated to the 370? Unlikely.

With regard to televison, GM doesn't advertise the Corvette much at all. Ford really never advertises the Mustang... the one exception being the commercial for the V6 (touting it's fuel economy because that's what sells these days).

The 370 is one of those cars you either want or you don't want. You usually know before you even drive it that you're going to buy it. For a product like that you're better off buying a few print ads in some magazines that your target demographic would read. The first 370Z advert I saw was a print spread in a January '09 issue of GQ.

onzedge · 04-05-2011, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Manufacturers spend money on advertising when it's worth it to do so. Would NISSAN see any real gain if they ran a bunch of ads dedicated to the 370? Unlikely.

With regard to televison, GM doesn't advertise the Corvette much at all. Ford really never advertises the Mustang... the one exception being the commercial for the V6 (touting it's fuel economy because that's what sells these days).

The 370 is one of those cars you either want or you don't want. You usually know before you even drive it that you're going to buy it. For a product like that you're better off buying a few print ads in some magazines that your target demographic would read. The first 370Z advert I saw was a print spread in a January '09 issue of GQ.

Inspector71 · 04-06-2011, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the observation on "environmental" cars. I used to work for the People's Republic of Palo Alto in California, home to some of the most radical environmentalists in the country. They are a smug, angry and sanctimonious bunch to say the least. I was driving a 66 Sport Fury 440 and they yelled profane comments at me saying I was destroying the earth, threw rocks and even a bottle at me (I gave chase...while still in the car), and tried to force all city employees to leave their cars home on "Car Out" days. What is funny is, some of these people drive an electric car to "protect the environment" and when I asked them the source of the electricity, they said an outlet! They couldn't comprehend that most electricity is generated by burning coal. The more electricity used, the more coal that is burned...I believe I offended them because I punctured their smugness...rock on

370Zsteve · 04-06-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Manufacturers spend money on advertising when it's worth it to do so. Would NISSAN see any real gain if they ran a bunch of ads dedicated to the 370? Unlikely.

With regard to televison, GM doesn't advertise the Corvette much at all. Ford really never advertises the Mustang... the one exception being the commercial for the V6 (touting it's fuel economy because that's what sells these days).

The 370 is one of those cars you either want or you don't want. You usually know before you even drive it that you're going to buy it. For a product like that you're better off buying a few print ads in some magazines that your target demographic would read. The first 370Z advert I saw was a print spread in a January '09 issue of GQ.

So true, Steve!

The only time I see 370Z's in advertisements is like the commercial where the guy stretches his Z into a Maxima after he learns a baby is on the way. And other times, the Z has been featured in generic Nissan ads, not unlike GM with the Corvette. They are marquee cars, meant to show off engineering, not make gobs of money. Only Porsche can do that since the badge alone costs $30 Grand.

b1adesofcha0s · 04-05-2011, 11:13 AM

You can be environmentally friendly and still have style + performace.

Porsche 918 HYBRID

04-05-2011, 12:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Husky Downs Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Bellflower, CA Posts: 168 Drives: Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 16	My Take Is This Guys... A. Would you rather have a chick who gives you the best sex of your life - a true freak, but can't cook to save her life, doesn't clean, is a bitch 24/7, is a gold digger, but is drop dead gorgeous. Or... B. A girl who is decent in the sack, cleans, cooks, is pretty - not drop dead gorgeous, is a real friend, doesn't do oral - but is open to "other" things and let's you play video games as long as you want, and is content with being middle class; doesn't need to live like one of the Kardashians. Not a tough decision, least not for me - B is the clear winner. "B" is basically the "Z" and maybe can even be lumped into sports cars in general. In a time when gas is so expensive and it's getting tough to justify spending $85 to fill up the tank every 7 days (minimum), the "Z" and sports car in general like somebody above stated, all things considered is a pretty efficient car - gas wise. So while everybody out there is walking around with their "trophy" wives, they see us (Z and Sports Car owners alike) and they envy us. Sure they get some perks with their wives, but as a whole - we are MUCH happier and they are dying inside wishing they were as happy as we all are. Weird analogy, but I see it this way. It's like, people can drive their Prius' (which actually hurt the environment more than a Civic) or their Chevy Volt etc. to save gas, but are they TRULY happy in it? Sure it saves them on gas (i.e. great sex, beautiful etc.), but does it feel like a Z or sports car? Does it look like one? Handle like one? If gas were $8 a gallon, ask yourselves this question, if you're a Z/sports car owner - would you REALLY get rid of your ride to give in to the times? NOT ME! I'd adapt and like some of you have stated above, I'd find other means to get to and from, but NEVER would I consider getting rid of my Z or sports car. And if I couldn't afford two cars - I'd find a way TO afford the gas by giving up other things that cost me on a daily/monthly/weekly/yearly basis. After all, we are Z owners damn it and all these people with their electric cars, solar cars, flux capacitor vehicles, trucks, Hybrid's and so on will eventually get rid of their cars for the next best thing (kind of like people who try DROID then the iPhone and realize how awesome iOS truly is LOL). As for us - WE WON'T - because unlike them, our cars are INSTANT classics. We have a sense of pride and loyalty in a way these others simply cannot appreciate. And when sht hits the fan one day and all the car company's abandon gasoline because it's $20 a gallon - I trust that Nissan will make a Z which will go with the times and that too will be an instant classic. Because we understand this - we will own it and in the end, in the grand scheme of things guys, even though gas is just about $5 a gallon now, it's what - $15-$20 more total than what we're used to paying? Guys, we spend that on ******* every week. Some of us are smokers (not I), some of us are pot heads (not I), some of us are addicted to video games (maybe me) etc. Whatever our vice is, if we budget correctly and FIND that extra $15-$20 a week for gas, TO ME that's a great trade-off. So while everybody else is buzzing by at 60 MPH in their jelly bean, space ship looking hybrid's and "so called" environmental friendly vehicles - we'll ZOOM! by them IN STYLE... BECAUSE DAMN IT! WE ARE Z OWNERS - IT'S NOT A CULT, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT, NOR IS IT A FAD...IT'S A CHOICE WE MADE...LIKE OUR Z FOREFATHER'S BEFORE US WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR US TODAY... IT'S A WAY OF LIFE! LMAO!!!!!!! Okay, I'm done ranting.

04-05-2011, 08:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Manufacturers spend money on advertising when it's worth it to do so. Would NISSAN see any real gain if they ran a bunch of ads dedicated to the 370? Unlikely. With regard to televison, GM doesn't advertise the Corvette much at all. Ford really never advertises the Mustang... the one exception being the commercial for the V6 (touting it's fuel economy because that's what sells these days). The 370 is one of those cars you either want or you don't want. You usually know before you even drive it that you're going to buy it. For a product like that you're better off buying a few print ads in some magazines that your target demographic would read. The first 370Z advert I saw was a print spread in a January '09 issue of GQ. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-06-2011, 10:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
Inspector71 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lee's Summit Missouri Posts: 337 Drives: 2015 Pearl White Z Rep Power: 17	For Husky Downs Thanks for the observation on "environmental" cars. I used to work for the People's Republic of Palo Alto in California, home to some of the most radical environmentalists in the country. They are a smug, angry and sanctimonious bunch to say the least. I was driving a 66 Sport Fury 440 and they yelled profane comments at me saying I was destroying the earth, threw rocks and even a bottle at me (I gave chase...while still in the car), and tried to force all city employees to leave their cars home on "Car Out" days. What is funny is, some of these people drive an electric car to "protect the environment" and when I asked them the source of the electricity, they said an outlet! They couldn't comprehend that most electricity is generated by burning coal. The more electricity used, the more coal that is burned...I believe I offended them because I punctured their smugness...rock on

04-05-2011, 11:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
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04-04-2011, 11:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Niche79 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Kissimmee, FL Posts: 900 Drives: '09 SR Tour/Sprt/Nav Rep Power: 38	This topic nails home with ppl trying to buy older gas sippers for loads more than they are worth. Get offers nonstop saying how much for your older 91 prelude. Guy from work with a tahoe said name a price and ill take it. I said 3k! Thats over book and hes like ok but of course never brought the money. Last time gas was 4 bucks and change a gallon, I remember the old metro's and ford aspires were going for thousands! When normally they were worth maybe 800? haha I think the general Z owner has a bit more cash and on top of that, they have another car thats their DD. Good topic though.

04-05-2011, 12:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	People are stupid to pay that much money for an old econobox, there are a lot of people with no brains out there.

04-05-2011, 12:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Wow, I am speechless

04-05-2011, 12:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10092	i'd ride a bicycle the 10 miles to my place of work if i needed to save money on gas before the thought of even getting rid of a Z entered my head, then again thats just me, i budget to the extreme when i want to keep something i really want lol.

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