honest opinions about this article ??

LunaZ · 04-03-2011, 11:17 AM

I can see their (corrections) usefulness in certain applications, particularly when it comes to dyno sheets, but when it comes to a race result or time, I think it should stand as it happened.
If a guy does a fast time in ideal conditions, he shouldn't have that discredited or have its validity challenged by a correction factor.

Red__Zed · 04-03-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

I can see their (corrections) usefulness in certain applications, particularly when it comes to dyno sheets, but when it comes to a race result or time, I think it should stand as it happened.
If a guy does a fast time in ideal conditions, he shouldn't have that discredited or have its validity challenged by a correction factor.

That's not what the corrections are for. Times are times. But if you want to compare to someone elses times, or compare to the times you read in magazines, you need to realize you are often comparing to a corrected time.

Nobody is going to take away from Shahid's 12 second run. It's a fast time and very impressive. With corrections, it is a lot more in line with the times that the mags are putting down though.

LunaZ · 04-03-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

That's not what the corrections are for. Times are times. But if you want to compare to someone elses times, or compare to the times you read in magazines, you need to realize you are often comparing to a corrected time.

Nobody is going to take away from Shahid's 12 second run. It's a fast time and very impressive. With corrections, it is a lot more in line with the times that the mags are putting down though.

Exactly. What you're saying is that it's a great time but it's really more like this other slower time with the correction factored in.
Then we have to account for weight discrepancies in the car and heck, don't forget the weight of the driver! What octane fuel was in the car? Tank full or empty? You could go on forever finding discrepancies that need adjustment to simulate absolute equality.
Seriously, I'm not trying to argue with you. I understand the desire to use correction factors as an "equalizer". It's just that at the end of the day, it provides room for someone to say "but".

Back on topic.
I think the article is written like a sales pitch press release rather than an honest review.
As far as cabin noise goes, I couldn't hear my tyres or pebbles in the wheel wells. Just a howling Fast Intentions cat-back as I ran up the mountain at WOT in 3rd gear before downshifting for a switchback. I don't think Dynamat would have helped.

Red__Zed · 04-03-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LunaZ

Exactly. What you're saying is that it's a great time but it's really more like this other slower time with the correction factored in.
Then we have to account for weight discrepancies in the car and heck, don't forget the weight of the driver! What octane fuel was in the car? Tank full or empty? You could go on forever finding discrepancies that need adjustment to simulate absolute equality.
Seriously, I'm not trying to argue with you. I understand the desire to use correction factors as an "equalizer". It's just that at the end of the day, it provides room for someone to say "but".

Back on topic.
I think the article is written like a sales pitch press release rather than an honest review.
As far as cabin noise goes, I couldn't hear my tyres or pebbles in the wheel wells. Just a howling Fast Intentions cat-back as I ran up the mountain at WOT in 3rd gear before downshifting for a switchback. I don't think Dynamat would have helped.

If you don't see the issue with comparing corrected times to uncorrected times, there's not much point in having a conversation.

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