Will there be a V8 version?
 

There's talk of a special edition model with a V8 that is supposedly being considered--this is according to the Z34 Chief of Production, Shinjiro Yukawa.

Any new info about this or rumors?

LOL...
Nissan would never do that...
Why?
Because of sales.
They already have a faster car the GTR.
They don't need a V8 370z.
In my opinion though!

I don't know at this point. I highly doubt Nissan will come out with the V8 Z. If I remember correctly, around July-July, there were a lot talk going on after He (Shinjiro Yukawa) said

But this is old news. I should also mention that for the First time, Acura (Honda corp) is going V8 ...so who knows

A V8 Z would be excellent if they could keep the weight w/in 150lbs of the Base 370z, say, 3380lbs. Figure a hp number of at least 400 hp... that would set it up to give the next generation M Coupe (BMW is going to use the M3 V8 in the next Coupe) a serious headache. Only problem will be more weight up front, but if Nissan beefs up the chassis right, the weight distribution should remain about the same. Unadultered speculation on my part, but I'd be interested in it if it happened. :tup:

S.

This will never happen. Mainly because of what CrownR said. Also, supposedly the new Z is a bit shorter than the old one... I dont see how they'd fit their 5.6 liter in there. And they wouldnt make a brand new motor just for this project.

It would be more cost effective to shove the GTR's TT engine into he Z. And I highly doubt that will happen, again, CrownR hot the nail on the head.

:werd: agreed.

One word G-T-R

It most likely won't happen, I agree, but I'd hesitate to use an absolute in this case. Reason being, you have car companies out there already producing cars that are competing with their more expensive siblings. Audi's upcoming RS5 will be as fast if not faster than their R8. BMW's M3 will easily hang with its M6 (and a faster Ring time to boot). Also, if you take a look at the released specs of the 370z it IS a bit shorter... as in 169.8" for the current Z vs 167.1" for the 370... that's 2.7". That's not much. Not enough that if they could wedge a V8 in the 350z, they couldn't do it for the 370, imo. So, why not a limited edition V8 rear drive two seat sports car? Doesn't really compete straight on with a slightly-less-limited edition TTV6 awd 4 seat super coupe, now does it? Again, I also doubt it will happen, but how many times have people said a vehicle wasn't going to make it to market "no matter what" and then, all of a sudden, there it was?

S.

Nissan would be cashing out on the v8 big time, especially because they'd have to rebuild the car since a v8 engine is too big for the 370z right now. That would then add more weight to the car. That would make it like a 350 with a V8. But... Then again honda/acura is coming out with V8 cars. We'll see...

One question: Why?


Serves NO purpose. I'll be pretty stoked to see a 5.0+ V8 under the Super GT version that's bound to debut at some point in the very near future.:ughdance:

japans not own for their v8.... personally i like v8's but i rather get a bulletproof v6 in stand of a weak v8... plus whats the point droping in a v8 in this car, just put a factory turbo on it. u know...

they have to make this car slower then the gtr neways... they wont want to compete together whats the point in that. around or at $40k n' this car has a v8 and it is as powerful as the gtr, everyone will get this car in stand of the gtr. the sales of the gtr will drop.

Exactly... That what I'm saying! That's retarded cause they will lose that GTR name! the 370z would piss on that heavy thing if it did come out as a V8... But who knows! With our whacky world and economical crisis, anything can happen. Dunno if V8 is the right thing imo... Seems silly.

It won't be as powerful as the GTR, at least I don't think it would be. The Nissan's 5.0L engine (currently found in the Infiniti FX 50) makes 390hp and 369 lb-ft of torque. Let's say you tuned it to make 400hp at 7000 rpm, your torque figure would be slighly lower... both numbers would come second best to the GTR. For the horsepower mongers out there who look solely at numbers (and there are a few in the market for $80K sports cars) those numbers aren't as impressive as the GTR's 480hp and 430lb-ft. Also, there's the matter of getting that power to hook up effectively. With awd, the GTR is still faster 0-60. Handling? With all the electronic aids, the GTR has been described as physics defying. You keep the Z relatively free of those, and you have a rawer animal. This won't appeal to many prospective GTR buyers who cross-shop cars such as Porsche's 911 turbo. So now you see the 'limited edition' angle that I'm getting at... this will be a car for the hard core, a Nissan 370z 'RS', if you will, provided the weight gain is minimal and overall power/weight is increased to the good.

Again, I repeat my belief that this probably WILL NOT happen. But, I don't believe the argument that this fictitious Z (maybe someday built for homologation purposes perhaps?) will not achieve fruition due to its poaching sales from the GTR. The cars are completely different animals, much like the M3/M6, R8/RS5, and 911 GT3/911 Turbo. Speculation is fun! :tup:

S.

Here's why a V8 makes sense
 

A 400-430HP V8 if offered would make sense IMO because it would compete in the sports car/muscle car segment just below the performance level of the GT-R. The GT-R's main competitor is the Porsche 911 Turbo and other supercars. The 370Z's main competitor is the Porsche Cayman S. But Nissan does not have a Corvette (base) fighter or offering to compete in that market segment (see below)--there's a huge performance gap (100+hp) here that a V8 offering would fill.

1. Corvette (430HP)
2. Dodge Challenger SRT-8 (425HP)
3. Camaro Z28 SS (420HP)
4. Ford Shelby GT500 (500HP)
5. Porsche 911 Carerra/S (345HP/385HP)
6. Audi TT RS (340HP)
7. BMW Z4M (420HP)

And a V8 would definately appeal to and draw sales from the muscle car segment--Nissan's best approach, from a marketing standpoint, would be to do it American style--V8 powerplant. I think many prospective Corvette, Camaro & Challenger customers would reconsider--even more so now since the Big 3 are nearly bankrupt. Strategically it would be a great opportunity for Nissan to grab market share in this segment. And I do believe Nissan already has a 4.5L unit--450Z has a nice ring to it...don't you agree?

Any thoughts?

I can sorta see I guess...
Since Nissan is trying to compete with Porche...
Thats the only reason and possiblity I could come up with the V8...
They might actually try to beat out Porche.
We'll see!

I would think putting a couple of turbos might be easier than trying to shoehorn a V8 into the Z34 - and it would keep up with any porsche (speed and HP wise) they wanted it to by turning up or down the boost. Seems as if the HR engiine internals are stout enough to handle boost.

The engine bay seems too packed as is with the VQ. Can they get an 8 in there?

Also, imagine what the weight distribution would be after an 8.....

Nissan will build a special edition model
 

Here's another reason I think we'll see a special edition model soon after the 370z hits showrooms.

-EXTRACT-

Follow the jump, for more on the V8-powerd NISMO 350Z, a pic of the engine and the full press release.

Nissan's factory Fairlady Zs (350Z) will now be powered by a stronger 4.5 L V8 engine aiming at victory in this years SUPER GT championship in Japan. Complimented by changes to the chassis and other key components, the competitiveness of the machines that won championships twice in the past three years has now been significantly improved.

Click on the link below:
Nissan brings V8-power to Super GT - Autoblog

nissan already beat out porsche with the gtr and the 370z will be just as capable if not better than the cayman s, only if they want to compete with carrera s model than a v8 would make sense

what, there will be a V8 model, i was soo doubtful about it.

That article is SOOO OLD! There will be no V8 Z; maybe a lighter turbo, but no V8.

I highly doubt it. and that /\ article is dated Feb 12th 2007 1:02PM.

lol a V8 in a 370Z, no way

I know.. old thread. But us M3 owners used to say this about BMW, "There's not way BMW would do the a V8 in the M3" - always has been a I-6, always wil be an I-6.

Never say never. We can dream :driving:

hypothetically speaking;

ok so we have 3 possible V-8's to be used in the fairlady.

2 production models:
5.0L and a 5.6L

1 GT Track version:
4.5L

so which one will we see in the Limited Editon?

and will the badge read:
500z le
560z le
or
450z le
:koolaidwall:

maybe in 720Z in 3011 model

Oh no...
Not this again...
Nope, never!

Umm...they just fired a ton of people and their sales are down 30%, do you think they can afford the R&D on a V8 370Z right now? They have bigger things on their plate, like staying in business. A V8 370Z is a fantasy at least for 3 years.

Kind of brings up an interesting point. When will Nissan stop? There were two models of 300ZX so at what point will they stop putting in more displacement? My math says that by 3011 at the current rate of displacement increase the Z will have a 38-39 liter engine and be capable of going plaid.

Well, they are going to stop sooner than later with the increments I think... Mercedes and BMW have had a displacement battle for decades now.. the battle seems to have topped out at 6.x Liters (for now). The whole "Green" thinking and depleting of Oil reserves / price of gas are definitely going to slow down the displacement race... Supercars are a dying breed...not just yet....but if things keep moving like they are...then it will happen...

Efficiency is becoming the new focus...which is great because motors are still making a ton of power with a lot less pollution. Just take a look at the new porsches and Lambo LP560-4.

the other thing is we see companies like BMW giving up their NA high rev V10's and V8's for smaller FI'd engines, why would nissan go the other way now?!

holy resurrection.....lol..... :icon23:

Umm BMW was forced into making a V8 for different reasons, one being to compete with Merc, Audi another is coz E46 M3 GTR couldnt compete due to Porsche's complaint that BMW should use the same power plant used in production. so to go back into ALMS and other competition they had to do a V8.

but now they're going backwards into forced induction after their major FI success in 335/135/X6. It's been announced V10's will no longer be produced and that TT V8 will replace that on M6/M5, and BMW mentioned in more than one occasion that high revving engines will no longer be produced for M cars. which means they will most likely not put the S65 into the new Z4M (if it ever gets produced) and will not have a V8 in the M3

I think the 370z needs Twin Turbo . and it will become mad dog no need for V8

TT yes V8 no

OK... I'm down for TT and no v8.

Nissan has listed a C6 Corvette as a competitor to the z.

But it's kinda hard to for Nissan to compete with 436 HP/417lb-ft torque in a 3180lb car.

I know there's much more to the car than acceleration. Anyway, I am considering selling my 07 350z, taking a HUGE cash hit up the *** and buying a 370.

There is not any increase in acceleration (IMO) from a modded 07 to a stock 370, and brakes are only marginally better, but something about pulling .98-.99G's in a car with stock ride qualities and the 6MT with synchrorev-match has really whet my appetite.

But I'd be pissed to buy a 370 and have a V8 or TT version come out in a year.

If nissan was more forthcoming with their plans and could confirm no TT or V8 in the plans, then I'd have an easier time buying the 370 now, but they have been so sectretive about plans for other z-related releases, I'll never know so I'll just do nothing for now. I'd at least like to know more about the Nismo Z34 (not the s-tune with nismo parts) before I buy.

Interesting info - thanks. So those M5's M6's (v10) and M3's (v8) might be somewhat rare. hmmm...

yep! last V10's, and last V8 on the M3. no more newly made S65 (maybe, maybe like a slight maybe in a new Z4M but there's more hints to no ///M for the Z4)

Twin Turbos would be cool on the 370Z. Don't know that Nissan will ever do it. Who knows, maybe we will see something cool when the new NIMSO Z comes out this summer.
Meantime, my Z already has Twin Turbos :excited: