Esther Oil?

sucasa · 02-09-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolZ

Just picked up my black Z with sport package last night. Only 94 miles, the long way home, but absolutely love it! The service department warned me that you should only use this special esther oil that sells for $15/quart in my Z. I've never heard of it and they really couldn't tell me much about it. Anyone able to fill me in on this subject? I do all my own maintenance and realize the Z will be a challenge just changing the oil.....but I'm hoping this oil thing is just the usual dealer BS.

Great site! I'll be back often.

Paul
Southern NH

Paul

Per the user manual, Esther is the 'recommended' engine oil to use due the specificiations, and requirements of the Z engine.

Now, if you want to use another brand no will stop you and most likely you can get away with using another brand. But at the end of the day, it's an expensive car engineered to certain specifications. If the specifications call for a special oil, I would rather side with nissan engineers who built the car versus internet forum members who think esther is not worth it.

From a cost perspective synthetic oils are expensive i.e. Mobile 1, Redline, etc. and nissan esther is no different. Personally, all my oil changes done w/ Nissan Esther, and enjoy my car. It's a small price to pay for peace of mind.

SoCal 370Z · 02-09-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sucasa

Per the user manual, Esther is the 'recommended' engine oil to use due the specifications, and requirements of the Z engine.

Can you please make a scan of this page and post it here? Our 370Z is one of the first in the States and nowhere in the Owners Manual is this stated. The Service Manual makes a reference to Nissan ester engine being recommended, but not mandatory. And what exactly are those "...specifications, and requirements..." that are being referenced? Even Nissan can not answer these questions. We have Nissan employees here at the forum and they have not anted-up either.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The misinformation that comes up with every thread on oil is a killer.

Nissan is solely at the center of the propagation of misinformation as Nissan has been nothing but vague and ambitious regarding their own oil, and the Z's engine. To me, if Nissan has an oiling issue at the top-end of the VQ37VHR, then Nissan should have engineered it better or made their voodoo ester available as an additive.

Blue370tt · 02-09-2011, 10:16 AM

I have been told by friends in the oil industry that the Nissan "ester" oil helps dissapate heat and keep the heat down better than most oils. This may be true but I still run synthetic.

Red__Zed · 02-09-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue370tt

I have been told by friends in the oil industry that the Nissan "ester" oil helps dissapate heat and keep the heat down better than most oils. This may be true but I still run synthetic.

I think it has been determined that it doesn't do that as well as most good synthetics.

Nissan has kept quite on the details on the oil to spook people into thinking it has some magical properties, but any decent oil will do the same job.

The benefit to the Ester oil is it is supposed to react with the DLC coating on the cam follower, and helps prevent the tapping noise you will hear sometimes when you don't run the Ester oil.

Cmike2780 · 02-09-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I think it has been determined that it doesn't do that as well as most good synthetics.

Nissan has kept quite on the details on the oil to spook people into thinking it has some magical properties, but any decent oil will do the same job.

The benefit to the Ester oil is it is supposed to react with the DLC coating on the cam follower, and helps prevent the tapping noise you will hear sometimes when you don't run the Ester oil.

Do you know where we can find the info or comparison test you mentioned? Ester is a synthetic, so it would seem logical that the properties are identical with margin gains in lubricating properties. I think it would be to the community's benefit to have reliable scientific data before we jump one way or the other. We all know how easily misconceptions spread on the internet.

Red__Zed · 02-09-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Do you know where we can find the info or comparison test you mentioned? Ester is a synthetic, so it would seem logical that the properties are identical with margin gains in lubricating properties. I think it would be to the community's benefit to have reliable scientific data before we jump one way or the other. We all know how easily misconceptions spread on the internet.

Clickie!!!!

Cmike2780 · 02-09-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Clickie!!!!

No, I want to know which study you were looking at.

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