Esther Oil?

CoolZ · 02-08-2011, 09:16 PM

Just picked up my black Z with sport package last night. Only 94 miles, the long way home, but absolutely love it! The service department warned me that you should only use this special esther oil that sells for $15/quart in my Z. I've never heard of it and they really couldn't tell me much about it. Anyone able to fill me in on this subject? I do all my own maintenance and realize the Z will be a challenge just changing the oil.....but I'm hoping this oil thing is just the usual dealer BS.

Great site! I'll be back often.

Paul
Southern NH

SPOHN · 02-08-2011, 09:19 PM

It's a bunch of BS. You don't have to have it. Leave it at that. There's plenty of threads here on this. I know your new but you have to use the search function.

Dreezy562 · 02-08-2011, 10:58 PM

I'm goi. Redline next change

zmyride · 02-08-2011, 11:06 PM

I use Canola Oil and my Z's been doing fine. I can cook hotdogs on the way to football games. very convenient.

SPOHN · 02-09-2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

I use Canola Oil and my Z's been doing fine. I can cook hotdogs on the way to football games. very convenient.

Can I get fries with that.

Cmike2780 · 02-08-2011, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolZ

Just picked up my black Z with sport package last night. Only 94 miles, the long way home, but absolutely love it! The service department warned me that you should only use this special esther oil that sells for $15/quart in my Z. I've never heard of it and they really couldn't tell me much about it. Anyone able to fill me in on this subject? I do all my own maintenance and realize the Z will be a challenge just changing the oil.....but I'm hoping this oil thing is just the usual dealer BS.

Great site! I'll be back often.

Paul
Southern NH

Ester oil is a special synthetic. The dealer is correct. A dealer oil change will usually run around $90. Some members here use Redline, which isn't cheap either. I wouldn't recommend using regular motor oil.

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VCuomo · 02-09-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

...The dealer is correct. ... I wouldn't recommend using regular motor oil. ...

The dealer is not correct. And if by "regular motor oil" you mean non-Nissan oil (e.g., Mobil 1, Pennzoil synthetic, Castrol synthetic, etc.), then your "recommendation" is also incorrect.

Much has been written about this - use the search function and/or visit BobIsTheOilGuy.com.

Cmike2780 · 02-09-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

The dealer is not correct. And if by "regular motor oil" you mean Mobil 1, Pennzoil synthetic, Castrol synthetic, etc., then your "recommendation" is also incorrect.

Much has been written about this - use the search function and/or visit BobIsTheOilGuy.com.

"Regular" as in non-synthetic dino oil. Its not required to use synthetic, but it is recommended.

VCuomo · 02-09-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

"Regular" as in non-synthetic dino oil. Its not required to use synthetic, but it is recommended.

Yep, true. But the dealer is wrong about only using Nissan's ester oil.

Cmike2780 · 02-09-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Yep, true. But the dealer is wrong about only using Nissan's ester oil.

Yeah, I just meant that it is recommended to use synthetic for which there is a significant gain over non-synthetic. I just didn't realize the Nissan Ester synthetic was a group 3. The dealer wasn't technically "wrong", but maybe we're just arguing semantics here. You "should only" vs. you "must only". I think most of us, including myself have a tendency to dismiss the service rep's advice anyways. From a Nissan dealer's point of view, there is no other brands but the stuff they sell. I mean no disrespect, just looking for some knowledge.

PapoZalsa · 02-09-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Ester oil is a special synthetic. The dealer is correct. A dealer oil change will usually run around $90. Some members here use Redline, which isn't cheap either. I wouldn't recommend using regular motor oil.

Few of the local Nissan dealer here in town uses Valvoline unless you tell them otherwise.

CoolZ · 02-09-2011, 07:35 PM

Thanks for all of the great info and friendly responses! A few questions:
Is everyone sold on the magnetic plugs? Wouldn't most of these trapped particles drain out anyway with the old oil?
And clumping them together, couldn't this do more damage if a clump broke free and floated it's way through the pistons?
If only the front end is on ramps, does the oil drain completely? Isn't it better to have the car level?

Mt Tam I am · 02-09-2011, 10:45 PM

I had my oil changed yesterday at the dealership. The service guy asked if I wanted regular oil or esther oil for ($42?) more. So you can run either or many by implication. Since Nissan gave me a Gold Maintenance plan as compensation for my oil consumption/short block replacement, I took the esther oil. I also began my new oil consumption test. 1.8 quarts in 1900 miles.

IDZRVIT · 02-10-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolZ

Thanks for all of the great info and friendly responses! A few questions:
Is everyone sold on the magnetic plugs? Wouldn't most of these trapped particles drain out anyway with the old oil?
And clumping them together, couldn't this do more damage if a clump broke free and floated it's way through the pistons?
If only the front end is on ramps, does the oil drain completely? Isn't it better to have the car level?

I'm not sold on magnetic plugs but some here use them and also a magnetic oil filter sleeve.
Most, if not all, particles of sufficient size that will do damage to your engine will become trapped in the filter or drain out the oil pan when you change your oil. Filters are designed to not pass particles down to a particular size of about 30(?) microns. Any particle smaller than this may pass through the filter depending on its shape. Those that do pass will be circulated throughout the engine and some of these particles will become embedded in the journal bearings for example.
You can't completely drain the oil level or on jackstands. There is a small amount of about .6(?) litres that will not come out. This is stated in the service manual.

spearfish25 · 02-09-2011, 05:54 AM

Let me google that for you

02-08-2011, 09:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
CoolZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NH Posts: 15 Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 14	Esther Oil? Just picked up my black Z with sport package last night. Only 94 miles, the long way home, but absolutely love it! The service department warned me that you should only use this special esther oil that sells for $15/quart in my Z. I've never heard of it and they really couldn't tell me much about it. Anyone able to fill me in on this subject? I do all my own maintenance and realize the Z will be a challenge just changing the oil.....but I'm hoping this oil thing is just the usual dealer BS. Great site! I'll be back often. Paul Southern NH

02-08-2011, 09:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	It's a bunch of BS. You don't have to have it. Leave it at that. There's plenty of threads here on this. I know your new but you have to use the search function. __________________

02-09-2011, 10:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	I had my oil changed yesterday at the dealership. The service guy asked if I wanted regular oil or esther oil for ($42?) more. So you can run either or many by implication. Since Nissan gave me a Gold Maintenance plan as compensation for my oil consumption/short block replacement, I took the esther oil. I also began my new oil consumption test. 1.8 quarts in 1900 miles. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

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spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Let me google that for you __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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