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Originally Posted by SeattleLion Since I bought the car last September, I have been amazed that Nissan would sell the stock Z with summer tires. Yes, other ($100+k) sports cars

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Old 01-11-2011, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since I bought the car last September, I have been amazed that Nissan would sell the stock Z with summer tires. Yes, other ($100+k) sports cars also do that, but the Z is priced to sell to less affluent people, especially young people who might not understand the limits of summer tires or who can't afford another $1,000+ for a set of all weathers or snows.

I am also surprised that Nissan doesn't have a warning with the car that the stock tires become stiff and lose traction when cold and the outside temp is under 50 deg F.
This is 2 seat sports car, clearly practicality isn't the top concern. And Nissan isn't in the hand holding business; knowing that summer tires are no good in the winter and planning around this knowledge is well within the realm of personal responsibility.
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This is 2 seat sports car, clearly practicality isn't the top concern. And Nissan isn't in the hand holding business; knowing that summer tires are no good in the winter and planning around this knowledge is well within the realm of personal responsibility.
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It's a performance car so it warrants performance tires. The buyer should know that.
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Already got the bedtime out of the way.

I was well aware of the summer tire problem when I researched the rubber that came wrapped around the sport package wheels. More or less it is my fault to drive the 370z out during clear conditions with the awareness it could have snowed.

I have also read all the manuals and etc. in the car over the course of a couple days after it was in the home garage.

Right now, I just have to get the wheel and suspension fixed up and ready to go. It's all I can do at this point.
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Already got the bedtime out of the way.

I was well aware of the summer tire problem when I researched the rubber that came wrapped around the sport package wheels. More or less it is my fault to drive the 370z out during clear conditions with the awareness it could have snowed.

I have also read all the manuals and etc. in the car over the course of a couple days after it was in the home garage.

Right now, I just have to get the wheel and suspension fixed up and ready to go. It's all I can do at this point.
I think Tree's and my comments were in response to SeattleLion's post, not yours. Its evident from your OP that you aren't blaming Nissan for what happened to you or anything like that.
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I will not even look at the Z if there is any sign (even a cloud) when the temp is below 33F, or if there is any residual slush on the roads. Luckily this is rare in Seattle. I crashed my old Camaro SS on the snow/ice twice when I thought I knew what I was doing. It aint worth the risk.
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Purist, do you have a shop you can take it to? I know of 3 shops with lots of Z experience in the area, used one of them myself before and a friend of mine used the other two. Let me know if you need reviews.
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Purist, do you have a shop you can take it to? I know of 3 shops with lots of Z experience in the area, used one of them myself before and a friend of mine used the other two. Let me know if you need reviews.
I am extremely interested. I would rather not get screwed over at the dealer. Unfortunately, I don't know of any specific shops that have Z experience. I just know of a couple shops in the Chicagoland area... such as AMS, P&L, and ... I can't remember.

Although, I would have to hope that State Farm will pay out to them.
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I am extremely interested. I would rather not get screwed over at the dealer. Unfortunately, I don't know of any specific shops that have Z experience. I just know of a couple shops in the Chicagoland area... such as AMS, P&L, and ... I can't remember.

Although, I would have to hope that State Farm will pay out to them.
Send you a PM with the info, hope it helps! Good luck getting your car fixed!
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I can't say I disagree with SeattleLion, although what he mentions (that people will buy race tires if they want to track it) defeats his point; if it came with summer tires, wouldn't people buy all-seasons or track tires/slicks if they really needed it?
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sorry to hear about that... but the rays are around 1100 each..

don't you just love the warning light that pops on when it gets below 34
and says icy......like we can't tell by looking at the road conditions...
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I still don't understand why they went with summer tires
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I still don't understand why they went with summer tires
Because even ultra high performance all season tires do not have enough of a contact patch and/or grip and/or speed rating to allow the Z to run at its intended performance level on dry road.

It is also generally understood that driving any sports car in snow is both dangerous and unnecessary. The idea is that if you want a performance car that you'd either have another car for winter (because even with snow tires you can't exactly drive the Z normally whereas most other cars will handle perfectly fine).
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It is also generally understood that driving any sports car in snow is both dangerous and unnecessary. The idea is that if you want a performance car that you'd either have another car for winter (because even with snow tires you can't exactly drive the Z normally whereas most other cars will handle perfectly fine).
Here I have to disagree, I'm in my second winter season with my Z and have had no problems driving normally. Yes, my wife's Forester handles better in the snow, but compared to the front wheel drive cars on all season tires I had in the past, the Z on Blizzaks handles the winter weather a lot better.
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "normally". Obviously you can't Need for Speed on snowy roads in the winter like you can in the summer. Nor can winter tires even handle the power of the Z so you can't really push it without vdc kicking in. But slow and steady driving on snowed up roads has been just fine for me so far on michelin x-ices. In fact I seem to be doing better than most people on their all seasons with front wheel drive. So I definitely wouldn't call winter driving in snow tires unsafe, just boring.
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