Friend trying to talk me into Z trade for Challenger

m4a1mustang · 01-09-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer

Show me evidence that proves the NISMO is better? I've driven both and the NISMO is no quicker in a straight line and the suspension is only slightly stiffer (with the shipping spacers removed, of course).

It all comes down to looks, because performance is identical. Do you want a Sport Z with a body kit or do you want a Sport Z with the Touring package? Whichever one you choose they are going to go all the same.

Lemers · 01-09-2011, 10:16 PM

I didn't want the NISMO because of the lack of options I wanted. Leather and gps

m4a1mustang · 01-09-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

I didn't want the NISMO because of the lack of options I wanted. Leather and gps

But, but... it's better in every way.

Lemers · 01-09-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

But, but... it's better in every way.

It's a $10k body kit.

Pushing_Tin · 01-09-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer

There's no way you got 32mpg with your Z. You probably didn't let the comp run long enough or you caught a glimpse in mid calculation. The Nismo is a better car You know it is red and that's why you are considering it as well as the challenger. These guys just keep repeating what they saw in 1 or 2 reviews. The rest speak high praise of the Nismo. They haven't owned a Nismo and are going purely by specs and a couple reviews. They won't shut up about it and every chance they get they say the Nismo is not worth it. I'm surprised they aren't telling you to get the base challenger and with all the money you save to add on bolt on this and that. Don't listen to them. Find out for yourself, take time with both cars. And if your back is a problem don't deal with it in a way that will be a discomfort. I think I know which way you want to go and if you do you will not regret it. Just take your time. And it is a very rare car that you won't see all the time.

m4a1mustang · 01-09-2011, 10:52 PM

Nismoracer · 01-09-2011, 11:51 PM

This has been discussed numerous amounts of times and it won't matter what evidence I point out. You will just deny it and say you can get better parts for the $$$. Yeah WE KNOW that. What you don't seem to understand is that for the money it is pretty cool set up. And it ain't a $10k body kit. You can get this you can get that.......... Read every review on the Nismo they all say it's better than a standard Z. Slightly, don't freak out, it's not a huge 100hp difference or 2 whole sec faster in the quarter mile....... It's more than just a body kit. It's been discussed over and over and over and you guys are the type that need justification for your $$$ spent, understand that. The Nismo is not for you yes we get it. But yeah just read the specs if you think it's the same, you know how to read right. Your basing it on a performance difference and not an overall driving experience and your gonna need to drive it more than 5 min to appreciate it.

Lemers · 01-09-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismoracer

This has been discussed numerous amounts of times and it won't matter what evidence I point out. Read every review on the Nismo they all say it's better than a standard Z. Slightly, don't freak out, it's not a huge 100hp difference or 2 whole sec faster in the quarter mile....... It's more than just a body kit. It's been discussed over and over and over and you guys are the type that need justification for your $$$ spent, understand that. The Nismo is not for you yes we get it. But yeah just read the specs if you think it's the same, you know how to read right. You basing it on a performance difference and not an overall driving experience and your gonna need to drive it more than 5 min to appreciate it.

Why so serious?

Nismoracer · 01-10-2011, 12:01 AM

Hmm if you took it serious...... apologies not meant to be.

Lemers · 01-10-2011, 12:04 AM

It was a novel. A lot a thought put into that reply.

Nismoracer · 01-10-2011, 12:08 AM

Really? I didn't think it was that long. Just a couple lines.

Well O.P. good luck with the choices. You can't go wrong with either one, it's just what you want more.

Pushing_Tin · 01-10-2011, 12:08 AM

fucking noobs.

Nismoracer · 01-10-2011, 12:10 AM

Booo........

LinPark · 01-10-2011, 08:33 AM

I'm confused - when did the NISMO come into the picture? He has an '09 Red Z now and is looking at a Challenger - is he also considering a NISMO? Heck, if he wants the best maybe he should just find an '04.5 350Z - I hear they are FLAWLESS!

shadoquad · 01-10-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LinPark

I'm confused - when did the NISMO come into the picture? He has an '09 Red Z now and is looking at a Challenger - is he also considering a NISMO? Heck, if he wants the best maybe he should just find an '04.5 350Z - I hear they are FLAWLESS!

01-09-2011, 10:16 PM	#77 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I didn't want the NISMO because of the lack of options I wanted. Leather and gps __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

01-09-2011, 10:52 PM	#81 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	__________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-09-2011, 11:51 PM	#82 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 14	This has been discussed numerous amounts of times and it won't matter what evidence I point out. You will just deny it and say you can get better parts for the $$$. Yeah WE KNOW that. What you don't seem to understand is that for the money it is pretty cool set up. And it ain't a $10k body kit. You can get this you can get that.......... Read every review on the Nismo they all say it's better than a standard Z. Slightly, don't freak out, it's not a huge 100hp difference or 2 whole sec faster in the quarter mile....... It's more than just a body kit. It's been discussed over and over and over and you guys are the type that need justification for your $$$ spent, understand that. The Nismo is not for you yes we get it. But yeah just read the specs if you think it's the same, you know how to read right. Your basing it on a performance difference and not an overall driving experience and your gonna need to drive it more than 5 min to appreciate it. Last edited by Nismoracer; 01-09-2011 at 11:58 PM.

01-10-2011, 12:04 AM	#85 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	It was a novel. A lot a thought put into that reply. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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01-10-2011, 12:01 AM	#84 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 14	Hmm if you took it serious...... apologies not meant to be.

01-10-2011, 12:08 AM	#86 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 14	Really? I didn't think it was that long. Just a couple lines. Well O.P. good luck with the choices. You can't go wrong with either one, it's just what you want more.

01-10-2011, 12:08 AM	#87 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 227	fucking noobs.

01-10-2011, 12:10 AM	#88 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 14	Booo........

01-10-2011, 08:33 AM	#89 (permalink)
LinPark A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,077 Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Rep Power: 23	I'm confused - when did the NISMO come into the picture? He has an '09 Red Z now and is looking at a Challenger - is he also considering a NISMO? Heck, if he wants the best maybe he should just find an '04.5 350Z - I hear they are FLAWLESS!