Kids n 370s

ImportConvert · 12-17-2010, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

I'm not bitching and I'm not talking about the price of the car. I'm just saying that based on my experiences, giving a car with the performance of a 370Z to a high school student is a bad idea.

I can certainly agree with you that I was pretty reckless as a kid. When I was in college, I totaled my friend's '92 MR2 Turbo by driving rally-style down an unknown gravel road and sliding off into the woods. I may have been more reckless than most, but I don't think my experiences were all that dissimilar to other kids my age. Every person I knew who had a fast car drove at least somewhat like a maniac.

I agree with you that losing control of cars is the best way to learn about driving them fast, but I don't think I'd want my own kid doing that every day on public roads. I'd rather buy the kid something cheap like an old F-body and let him learn that kind of stuff in a controlled environment like an autocross.

The 370Z is NOT that powerful of a car that a highschooler can't manage it. What other new car would that parent buy their kid? 330hp is the new 220hp.

I mean, they could buy them a Prius or a Leaf or something, maybe?

You yourself learned that its driving style and not power that often wrecks a car. I don't think the Z is a bad choice at all. Of course, if your kid is an immature, reckless person, then no. However, they will probably wreck anything. Now that you mention it, the only 2 friends I had in highschool who had a wreck, one I don't know the cause of, but his car wasn't that fast ('95 32(something)i?). The other guy was "drifting" his family's stock 4-door honda family car and hit a curb. Neither of these incidents were caused by excessive power. However, nothing was said about being immature in the OP. It was about being rich/privelidged.

Jessobear · 12-17-2010, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The 370Z is NOT that powerful of a car that a highschooler can't manage it.

You yourself learned that its driving style and not power that often wrecks a car.

Well it certainly has enough power to get the back end out, especially in the rain or cold. I was going around an on ramp with the temp around freezing last week and I was able to put the thing sideways in 3rd gear. Summer tires don't like the cold.

It's a car that encourages you to do those kinds of things.

ImportConvert · 12-17-2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

Well it certainly has enough power to get the back end out, especially in the rain or cold. I was going around an on ramp with the temp around freezing last week and I was able to put the thing sideways in 3rd gear. Summer tires don't like the cold.

It's a car that encourages you to do those kinds of things.

Any kind of car will encourange a highschooler to "do those kinds of things". My G20 with its anemic 4-banger and slushomatic would spin the tires in the rain in a corner if I was so inclined. Yes, I have seen young people (and old) doing just this sort of thing in slow, slush-box cars like my own. Recklessness doesn't care about the dyno of 1/4 mile times, lol

I think either someone will wreck their car, or they won't, and first cars often-times get wrecked. If the family can afford that being a $30K car, props to them.

However, this conversation started because the OP had to wait until they were 26 and could afford to pay for their own Z before they got one. They are upset that some people didn't.

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Originally Posted by radek7633

Nothing ticks me off more than kids of rich parents, 17 years old, getting brand new cars. I'm 26 and after 6 years at a post secondary institution I bought myself a Z as a grad present to MYSELF because I am graduating without any loans!

Maybe its just darwin's modern way of doing his thing, maybe I am just bitter.

I think the statements highlighted in red sum the issue up very succinctly.

STRATTON · 12-18-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

I'm not bitching and I'm not talking about the price of the car. I'm just saying that based on my experiences, giving a car with the performance of a 370Z to a high school student is a bad idea.

I can certainly agree with you that I was pretty reckless as a kid. When I was in college, I totaled my friend's '92 MR2 Turbo by driving rally-style down an unknown gravel road and sliding off into the woods. I may have been more reckless than most, but I don't think my experiences were all that dissimilar to other kids my age. Every person I knew who had a fast car drove at least somewhat like a maniac.

I agree with you that losing control of cars is the best way to learn about driving them fast, but I don't think I'd want my own kid doing that every day on public roads. I'd rather buy the kid something cheap like an old F-body and let him learn that kind of stuff in a controlled environment like an autocross.

Good post. I agree with you 100%.

Stratton.

Jessobear · 12-17-2010, 07:03 AM

Well that dude should just get over it.

USMCASA · 12-17-2010, 07:07 AM

i didn't get my z till i was 30. aside from that what people do with their money is up to them but haters always gonna hate

kenchan · 12-17-2010, 07:08 AM

Mmmmmmm. Had charburger with cheese and cheese fries and chilli last night. Woo. Good stuff. Good to be in the US!

USMCASA · 12-17-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Mmmmmmm. Had charburger with cheese and cheese fries and chilli last night. Woo. Good stuff. Good to be in the US!

wait till you see what i brought to my office christmas party today

Buy the Bacon Explosion - Ready to Heat and Eat!

kenchan · 12-17-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA

wait till you see what i brought to my office christmas party today

Buy the Bacon Explosion - Ready to Heat and Eat!

Muhahahaha!

ImportConvert · 12-17-2010, 07:26 AM

I think the most glorious display of food I ever indulged in was a Turduken that a former roommate got from work...*somehow*...back when I was in college. That thing kicked arse! Had seasoned rice and stuffing and on and on and on. Glorious!

Vegitto-kun · 12-17-2010, 09:58 AM

I am 22 a "kid" in some people's eyes

I own a Z

what your problem broooo.

kenchan · 12-17-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

I am 22 a "kid" in some people's eyes

I own a Z and still live at my parent's place.

what your problem broooo.

fixed.

98intrigue · 12-17-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

fixed.

Holliday · 12-17-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

fixed.

Vegitto-kun · 12-17-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

fixed.

Yes so what?

I can save up money that I don't have to spend on rent/buying a house/apartment, heating,electricity and so on

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12-17-2010, 07:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jessobear Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 201 Drives: '10 370Z Tour/Sp M6 Rep Power: 15	Well that dude should just get over it.

12-17-2010, 07:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
USMCASA A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,152 Drives: 09 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 18	i didn't get my z till i was 30. aside from that what people do with their money is up to them but haters always gonna hate

12-17-2010, 07:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Mmmmmmm. Had charburger with cheese and cheese fries and chilli last night. Woo. Good stuff. Good to be in the US!

12-17-2010, 07:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7628	I think the most glorious display of food I ever indulged in was a Turduken that a former roommate got from work...somehow...back when I was in college. That thing kicked arse! Had seasoned rice and stuffing and on and on and on. Glorious!

12-17-2010, 09:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 263	I am 22 a "kid" in some people's eyes I own a Z what your problem broooo.