How do you think the 370z is going to stack up vs. the new 1M coupe?

Jeffblue

seems like it will be a solid car. i'm all for it and i'm happy they are doing it. maybe it will get nissan's *** in gear to produce a more powerful Z to compete. i dunno about you, but i'd pay 45k for a twin turbo'd Z from the factory.

when hyundai comes out with the genesis, and our car is marginally better from a performance perspective, everyone jumps on those 10ths of seconds and tiny power differences like they are mana from heaven. Then when someone mentions the fact that the genesis is cheaper, people are like'oh rabbah rabahh grumble grumble who cares'

the performance/price differences between this car and our car is similar to those between ours and the genesis. Seems like nissan is getting squeezed from both sides, and you know what, i think its great. i love Z cars, and its competition like this that will make them better and better.

competition is a good thing. and when other car companies come out with good cars, that are competitively priced its good for everyone. who knows, maybe nissan will throw a straight six twin turbocharged engine in the next Z

red6spd

That would be an awesome Z. But by doing this Nissan would just make the Z go the way of the old 300ZX TT. They got to keep the car affordable. They learned from the mistakes with the 350 and now the 370. As for the Hyundai being close to the performance of our cars, or any other car Hyundai said it was going to be I present this. FF to about 40 seconds in.

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Jeffblue

where did they find a mustang gt that slow? I agree, the genesis is still not THAT close to the Z. but my point still stands. No need to hate on competition, its good from a consumers perspective.

^that is what I would do.

FairladyZ10PG

If I had 50k to spend, I'd rather get a used 2009 M3 instead of the M1. I'm kinda biased tho since I really don't like 1 series body styling.

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red6spd

That was not a 5.0 Stang.

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ClemsonWill

I really like the performance aspect of the new 1m. I'm just not crazy about the looks epecially for the price. I'm guessing $50K with decent options. With the limited supply coming to the US you will probably pay near sticker.

Buy a fully loaded Z for less than $40k and spend the other $10-12K on FI.

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Jessobear

I've always like the 135i, but I think I'm in the minority. Many of my friends are big into BMW and they all universally HATE the 1-series. One of my friends refers to it as the BMW Shape Up, since the side skirt resembles those stupid shoes. They all universally rip on the suspension of the car, which is nowhere near a 3-series.

I'm a fan of the 335i as well, but it's just too pricey. One of my friends has a loaded '09 335i (M Sport Package, Premium Package, etc) with KW V3's and CSL knock-off wheels and it is really sweet. I went to BMW's website and priced up a comparable car. $51k. Wow.

Hopefully they don't ruin the look of the 135i with the M1 like they did with the M3. I really want to like the M3 but there is just way too much going on with the body. There's about ten vents in the rear bumper and the side mirrors are just awful. I don't buy an expensive BMW's to look like some ricer went wild with bodykits on it. When an AMG Benz looks subtle compared to your car, you're definitely on the wrong path.
This is not meant to call you dumb or anything, but you would never make this statement if you actually owned a car with an aftermarket turbo kit. There's always stuff coming loose, breaking, etc and the tuning is a total nightmare. The car rarely runs right. I know this because I used to own a car like this before selling it to get the Z.

Most people think you can drop a car off at a shop, pay them a few hundred dollars and a couple hours later have a tuned car. This could not be farther from the truth. This might be true on an N/A car where you're retaining the factory ECU and you're simply tweaking fuel and ignition slightly for peak power. With F/I, basically everything you have is out the window. Car manufacturers spend months perfecting the mapping on a dyno. With your own car, you end up with knock in odd places, rich and lean spots, etc.

With a factory car, you never have to worry about parts breaking or fasteners coming loose. Believe me, a factory turbocharged car is the way to go.

Off the soapbox now

Brazilbro

Not with the Z.. I droped mine of at a shop and got it back a tuned 450whp car. No problems at all.. I don't think anyone on this site with a TT kit has had 1 problem. Only thing I have to worry about it buying new rear tires and keeping the oil changed.

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It is important to note that the rest of the world pays a premium for these cars unlike Americans who get a deeply discounted vehicle. The stock 370Z in Canada starts at $40,000 and tops out around $50,000 for the sport touring model. And yes, our dollars are close enough to par to call it even...

Germans, Australians, Japanese, you name it, we all pay thousands more for cars than Americans. A twin-turbo'd Z from the factory would be in the $60000 mark here, if they even bothered to offer it to us. Keep in mind the Nismo is only available in the US in North America....

Having said that, the BMW is an awesome car and is in its own class, just like the 370Z. If you like Beemers, get one! If you like the Z, get one! But comparing them is really just wrong.

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LuckyJinx

So im driving a 60k car? Sweet 50% off

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wheee!

Is it twin turbo'd?

I didn't think so.... sorry, back to $55,000....

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