buy a genesis? might as well buy a mustang will you at it.

If I had 50k to spend, I'd rather get a used 2009 M3 instead of the M1. I'm kinda biased tho since I really don't like 1 series body styling. :barf:

That was not a 5.0 Stang.

Its tough to compare the 1M Coupe to the Z due to the price of each car. The 335i starts at 50k, so im thinking the 1M will be right around 50-55k. That being said, if the Z engineers had another 15 grand to play with, I'm sure the Z could would kill this car in every aspect. Besides the better interior and the more torque in the 1M, I still think the Z is a far better looking vehicle. Most of us wouldn't have had an opportunity to purchase a Z if Nissan wanted to make them compete against the M3, 1M, etc, so lets all be thankful that we have such great cars for such an affordable price.

i think bimmer is aiming to the preivous E46 folks (that ran off to other brands) to come back.

where do you get your facts?
The 335i starts at $41

BMW North America

it would be difficult to find a 335i without any pre-installed options... unless one orders from the factory.

Take a helluva lotta mods to get rid of 1M's f'ugly factor!

yea, as far as bmw is concerned, the steering wheel is an option.

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no denying raw performance ... M owns Z... but theres also no denying looks and that M is on ugly :icon23: car

I meant to say 50k with everything included, my b.......

According to this
2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe to Cost Around $45,000 (The Torque Report)
theres only going to be about 1,000 available in the US and starting price will be 45K. I have a feeling the price will inflate substantially due to the low availability.

i had to chime in here... i stronly considering waiting for the 1M coupe and not getting a Z. well, i decided to get the Z and trade it in for a 1M coupe if i felt it was that hawt.

after reading about it and seeing pics, i am very happy with my Z. yes, it will be more torquey, it is an M car, and can be modded easier and cheaper (maybe)it is still heavier than the Z and look awkard to me.

pricing is not a big deal as the money saved would be spent modding the Z, and i will probally still come in cheaper after modding the M. the interior is not all that from what i can see; then again, i am not a lux guy at all and love even the base Z's interior. i love the fact i can still work on the Z trouble free in my garage if i want. i am sure that 1M will look better in person, but the Z simply looks much, much better and seems to command more attention.

maybe the next gen 1M coupe will be better; i am not feeling this one at all. BMW missed the mark.

more recent updates state this is not the case; BMW will build them as needed.

The Z wasnt made to take up a 1m. So of course this goes to the 1m. Aftermarket however, Z wins. Around 30k add a tt or sc and then you'll be up there.