Nismo vs Audi S5

AlphaSnacks · 12-03-2010, 01:24 PM

No offense, but a lot of you guys are stuck in the past. I have a 2005 A6 4.2 (current gen) and it hasn't given me many problems at all. I have a warranty on it until 100k miles. It has 62k miles now. The car is beastly with the V8, has a superb ride, handles well, has a great interior, and it looks classy and never gaudy like many other luxury vehicles in its class.

I considered an S5 before buying a fully loaded 370Z. Like Jeff said, a fully loaded 370Z has a truly splendid interior that looks and feels terrific - rivaling some of the luxury automakes out there. I decided against the S5 because it's essentially a 2-door version of my A6 (similar interiors, similar power, motor, drivetrain). They're great cars and they have very nice gearboxes too. The newer ones handle notably better than the original 2008-2009 cars thanks to the optional torque vectoring.

Though I must say, it's weird to compare a spartan Nismo Z to a luxo grand tourer like the S5. Again, a fully loaded 370Z makes a lot more sense.

memorylasts · 12-04-2010, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnold K.

No offense, but a lot of you guys are stuck in the past. I have a 2005 A6 4.2 (current gen) and it hasn't given me many problems at all. I have a warranty on it until 100k miles. It has 62k miles now. The car is beastly with the V8, has a superb ride, handles well, has a great interior, and it looks classy and never gaudy like many other luxury vehicles in its class.
...

I have owned a 2008 VW GTI and lemon lawed it, then purchased a 2009 Audi A4 and traded it for my Z due to parablems... They are an electrical and sensor nightmare, if you get a good one you keep it.

LuckyJinx · 12-03-2010, 09:50 PM

My buddies s5 had major issues at 30k miles. Love my Nismo, but the s5 id a waste of money imho.

kevr6 · 12-03-2010, 10:58 PM

I generally drive an S5 almost each day. No one has mentioned torque! HP is only part of the equation. The S5 is hands down faster the the Z with more then double the torque. Our cars are great for the price point!! Bang for the buck!
We don't have Quattro, Servotronic steering, Lane Assit, Parktronic, Self leveling Bi-Xenons, Bang & Olufsen, MMI, LED DRL, Nappa leather, Infotainment, Battery energy management, Electro-mechanical parking brake, Voice Control, etc, etc...different beast!
Also if you can't afford to own a German or Italian high end vehicle, which is indeed costly to up keep, then stay away!
I have a ton of customers that can and do! This allows me to own my 370Z!!

Audi's are awesome to drive at their limits! They make bad drivers look good! It takes a ton of control modules, heavy engineered powertrain, and tank like structure to give the driver that confidence. Of course these things need to be maintained!! $$
These vehicles shouldn't be compared!

zman1910 · 12-04-2010, 01:23 AM

My 2011 S4 is unbelieveable! So far so good

Jessobear · 12-04-2010, 11:53 AM

Comparing a 370Z and an S5 is pretty silly. You don't buy an S5 to race people. You buy it because it's an awesome car that looks amazing, has a great interior and is extremely classy. If you've ever seen an S5 on the street and heard it's exhaust, you realize immediately why you want it.

If they weren't so expensive, I'd take an S5 over my 370Z every day and twice on Sunday.

Cunnos · 12-06-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessobear

Comparing a 370Z and an S5 is pretty silly. You don't buy an S5 to race people. You buy it because it's an awesome car that looks amazing, has a great interior and is extremely classy. If you've ever seen an S5 on the street and heard it's exhaust, you realize immediately why you want it.

If they weren't so expensive, I'd take an S5 over my 370Z every day and twice on Sunday.

I just cant justify the the 30k pricing difference. I didnt say anything about racing between the cars in my original posting. I understand that the S5 has all the luxury amenities ( even back seats! ) but only 354 hp? Look at what the M3 gives you. All i was trying to bring up was that Audi could have done a better job with the hp output.....

wolf370z · 12-06-2010, 07:10 PM

If you want performance you should have bought a c5z06.

If you want luxury you should have bought an S5.

If you wanted the middle of the road (for just about any car comparison) you should have picked the 370z.

xfrgtr · 12-07-2010, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

I just cant justify the the 30k pricing difference. I didnt say anything about racing between the cars in my original posting. I understand that the S5 has all the luxury amenities ( even back seats! ) but only 354 hp? Look at what the M3 gives you. All i was trying to bring up was that Audi could have done a better job with the hp output.....

Audi RS5

ImportConvert · 12-07-2010, 07:25 AM

Yes, Audi could have given the car more horsepower, but they didn't. Nissan could have given the 370Z a better paint-job, but they didn't. Chevy could put coil-overs on the Z06 instead of leaf-springs, but they didn't. Ford could have kept the IRS idea from the 03/04 Terminators, but they didn't. Dodge could have evolved the Viper and made it lighter and more driver-friendly, but they didn't. BMW could have kept the V8 in the M3, and a manual transmission in their Z4 top-end model, but they aren't and they didn't.

There are lots of "why couldn't they's!?!" in the automotive world, I agree. We just have to pick the one that makes us sulk the least and go with it. Apparently the S5 has enough followers.

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 08:26 AM

Drive an S5 and you probably won't care that it "only" has 354 hp anyways. It's still pretty quick and the car as a whole is just an awesome, stylish, luxury ride.

Jeffblue · 12-07-2010, 08:45 AM

i was talking to an s5 owner the other day at a meet. he said the wheels are like 29lbs, which is really heavy for a 19.

m4a1mustang · 12-07-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i was talking to an s5 owner the other day at a meet. he said the wheels are like 29lbs, which is really heavy for a 19.

If they aren't forged aluminum then 29 lbs is kind of normal for a wide 19" rim. It's on the high end but I think most 19x9-19x10 cast wheels would come in around 26-30 lbs.

Jeffblue · 12-07-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If they aren't forged aluminum then 29 lbs is kind of normal for a wide 19" rim. It's on the high end but I think most 19x9-19x10 cast wheels would come in around 26-30 lbs.

the point being that it definitely affects how the car feels stock

wilsonp · 12-07-2010, 05:52 PM

That's what the G37 is for...

12-03-2010, 09:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
LuckyJinx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 465 Drives: 09 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 16	My buddies s5 had major issues at 30k miles. Love my Nismo, but the s5 id a waste of money imho. __________________

12-03-2010, 10:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
kevr6 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N.W. Atlanta Posts: 1,515 Drives: '09 Graphite 370Z 6M Rep Power: 668	I generally drive an S5 almost each day. No one has mentioned torque! HP is only part of the equation. The S5 is hands down faster the the Z with more then double the torque. Our cars are great for the price point!! Bang for the buck! We don't have Quattro, Servotronic steering, Lane Assit, Parktronic, Self leveling Bi-Xenons, Bang & Olufsen, MMI, LED DRL, Nappa leather, Infotainment, Battery energy management, Electro-mechanical parking brake, Voice Control, etc, etc...different beast! Also if you can't afford to own a German or Italian high end vehicle, which is indeed costly to up keep, then stay away! I have a ton of customers that can and do! This allows me to own my 370Z!! Audi's are awesome to drive at their limits! They make bad drivers look good! It takes a ton of control modules, heavy engineered powertrain, and tank like structure to give the driver that confidence. Of course these things need to be maintained!! $$ These vehicles shouldn't be compared! __________________ *Beware...* Daily Sliding In My ZLED!

12-06-2010, 07:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
wolf370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: United States Posts: 230 Drives: 09 370z red m6 Rep Power: 17	If you want performance you should have bought a c5z06. If you want luxury you should have bought an S5. If you wanted the middle of the road (for just about any car comparison) you should have picked the 370z. __________________ Good drivers just drive.

12-07-2010, 07:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7628	Yes, Audi could have given the car more horsepower, but they didn't. Nissan could have given the 370Z a better paint-job, but they didn't. Chevy could put coil-overs on the Z06 instead of leaf-springs, but they didn't. Ford could have kept the IRS idea from the 03/04 Terminators, but they didn't. Dodge could have evolved the Viper and made it lighter and more driver-friendly, but they didn't. BMW could have kept the V8 in the M3, and a manual transmission in their Z4 top-end model, but they aren't and they didn't. There are lots of "why couldn't they's!?!" in the automotive world, I agree. We just have to pick the one that makes us sulk the least and go with it. Apparently the S5 has enough followers. Last edited by ImportConvert; 12-07-2010 at 07:29 AM.

12-07-2010, 08:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Drive an S5 and you probably won't care that it "only" has 354 hp anyways. It's still pretty quick and the car as a whole is just an awesome, stylish, luxury ride. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-03-2010, 01:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 20	No offense, but a lot of you guys are stuck in the past. I have a 2005 A6 4.2 (current gen) and it hasn't given me many problems at all. I have a warranty on it until 100k miles. It has 62k miles now. The car is beastly with the V8, has a superb ride, handles well, has a great interior, and it looks classy and never gaudy like many other luxury vehicles in its class. I considered an S5 before buying a fully loaded 370Z. Like Jeff said, a fully loaded 370Z has a truly splendid interior that looks and feels terrific - rivaling some of the luxury automakes out there. I decided against the S5 because it's essentially a 2-door version of my A6 (similar interiors, similar power, motor, drivetrain). They're great cars and they have very nice gearboxes too. The newer ones handle notably better than the original 2008-2009 cars thanks to the optional torque vectoring. Though I must say, it's weird to compare a spartan Nismo Z to a luxo grand tourer like the S5. Again, a fully loaded 370Z makes a lot more sense.

12-04-2010, 01:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
zman1910 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: FL Posts: 361 Drives: 2011 Audi S4 Rep Power: 430	My 2011 S4 is unbelieveable! So far so good

12-04-2010, 11:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jessobear Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 201 Drives: '10 370Z Tour/Sp M6 Rep Power: 16	Comparing a 370Z and an S5 is pretty silly. You don't buy an S5 to race people. You buy it because it's an awesome car that looks amazing, has a great interior and is extremely classy. If you've ever seen an S5 on the street and heard it's exhaust, you realize immediately why you want it. If they weren't so expensive, I'd take an S5 over my 370Z every day and twice on Sunday.

12-07-2010, 08:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 38 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 39	i was talking to an s5 owner the other day at a meet. he said the wheels are like 29lbs, which is really heavy for a 19.

12-07-2010, 05:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 18	That's what the G37 is for... __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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