Better With Synchro-Rev Off?

370Z Purist · 06-07-2012, 03:29 PM

I have disabled SRM as I find it rather bores the hell out of me. Might be useful at a track since I'm not good enough of a driver yet to perform rapid downshifts or upshifts during cornering. Might actually improve pro drivers times, since SRM always knows perfect shifts, where as a human, close enough to perfect as they might be, will never actually be perfect all of the time, everytime.

I have removed my clutch spring altogether and found that performing the 1-2 shift is much easier and much smoother.

Vaughanabe13 · 06-07-2012, 09:51 PM

This is a simple issue - SRM causes the revs to hang until you put it into 2nd. So you have to clutch in and go to second quickly for the revs to start dropping, then you have to wait a few seconds for the revs to drop before you engage the clutch. If you don't wait the few seconds, your shift will be jerky. However, this is only at low RPM. When you're up in the 5.5K+ range you can pretty much shift right away without the delay.

Compdoc777 · 06-07-2012, 10:06 PM

I think it wastes gas rev matching I hate going in hot into a corner and that rev matching revs the hell out of the motor going into a lower gear. It is easier to drive with it off. I guess for those of us who are used to driving stick for years it is easier without it.

AlphaSnacks · 06-08-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777

I think it wastes gas rev matching I hate going in hot into a corner and that rev matching revs the hell out of the motor going into a lower gear. It is easier to drive with it off. I guess for those of us who are used to driving stick for years it is easier without it.

You are hardly wasting more than a few ounces of gas with revmatching for your entire tank - nothing that would amount to more than 1/4 mile of driving.

AlphaSnacks · 06-07-2012, 10:00 PM

Yeah, the SRM's logic needs to recalibrated desperately by Nissan.

shadoquad · 06-08-2012, 12:45 PM

I wasn't impressed with SRM in test driving. It was part of why I bought without sports package. I have no regrets about that.

kenchan · 06-08-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I wasn't impressed with SRM in test driving. It was part of why I bought without sports package. I have no regrets about that.

on the Z with its latency in throttle pedal input, the SRM is a must-have. unlike the pedal, the shifter blip is instantaneous.

plus you get brakes and some other stuff like coolness factor. gotta get the sports package unless you're a tracking the car and run 6pistons or something.

Vaughanabe13 · 06-08-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

on the Z with its latency in throttle pedal input, the SRM is a must-have. unlike the pedal, the shifter blip is instantaneous.

plus you get brakes and some other stuff like coolness factor. gotta get the sports package unless you're a tracking the car and run 6pistons or something.

Plus I find the base wheels to be hideous.

shadoquad · 06-08-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

on the Z with its latency in throttle pedal input, the SRM is a must-have. unlike the pedal, the shifter blip is instantaneous.

plus you get brakes and some other stuff like coolness factor. gotta get the sports package unless you're a tracking the car and run 6pistons or something.

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Originally Posted by Vaughanabe13

Plus I find the base wheels to be hideous.

Perfectly happy w/o SP. Have upgraded brakes and wheels, don't miss the spoiler. Looking into an lsd. I've heard the stock lsd isn't all that great anyway, and srm was just annoying. I know many sports owners who don't use it.

kenchan · 06-08-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Perfectly happy w/o SP. Have upgraded brakes and wheels, don't miss the spoiler. Looking into an lsd. I've heard the stock lsd isn't all that great anyway, and srm was just annoying. I know many sports owners who don't use it.

now you just sound like you're making up excuses.

JARblue · 06-08-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I know many sports owners who don't use it.

I find myself arguing with SRM when it's on, therefore it stays off. I don't think my wife has ever used it. VDC stays off when I drive unless its inclement weather or long distance highway driving. I don't think my wife knows where the VDC button is

shado, I don't agree with you on the spoiler though. I think the a$$ is kind of bare with out the lip. I just like the extra lines it creates.

shadoquad · 06-08-2012, 01:47 PM

Also, because of absolute luck, the cost of upgrading my brakes and wheels was $1100.

phelan · 06-08-2012, 07:02 PM

my SRM has been off since i bought the subaru. last thing i need is to throw the subaru into gear and not blip lol...and now i'm used to matching myself. even when i turned on SRM to show someone what it does, my foot was still trying to rev match...so meh.

asdfsammich · 06-08-2012, 07:35 PM

You guys rev matching (no SRM) with the stock pedals? If yes, which pedal gets the heel and which one gets the toe? I find the pedal placement in the Z kinda tough to work with.

370Z Purist · 06-08-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfsammich

You guys rev matching (no SRM) with the stock pedals? If yes, which pedal gets the heel and which one gets the toe? I find the pedal placement in the Z kinda tough to work with.

Have you heard of fatfooting? That's what I do.

06-07-2012, 03:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 18	I have disabled SRM as I find it rather bores the hell out of me. Might be useful at a track since I'm not good enough of a driver yet to perform rapid downshifts or upshifts during cornering. Might actually improve pro drivers times, since SRM always knows perfect shifts, where as a human, close enough to perfect as they might be, will never actually be perfect all of the time, everytime. I have removed my clutch spring altogether and found that performing the 1-2 shift is much easier and much smoother. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-07-2012, 09:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vaughanabe13 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 387 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 13	This is a simple issue - SRM causes the revs to hang until you put it into 2nd. So you have to clutch in and go to second quickly for the revs to start dropping, then you have to wait a few seconds for the revs to drop before you engage the clutch. If you don't wait the few seconds, your shift will be jerky. However, this is only at low RPM. When you're up in the 5.5K+ range you can pretty much shift right away without the delay. __________________ 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring, w/sport, 6MT, chicane yellow/black.

06-08-2012, 07:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	my SRM has been off since i bought the subaru. last thing i need is to throw the subaru into gear and not blip lol...and now i'm used to matching myself. even when i turned on SRM to show someone what it does, my foot was still trying to rev match...so meh. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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06-07-2012, 10:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Compdoc777 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cypress Posts: 277 Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB Rep Power: 13	I think it wastes gas rev matching I hate going in hot into a corner and that rev matching revs the hell out of the motor going into a lower gear. It is easier to drive with it off. I guess for those of us who are used to driving stick for years it is easier without it.

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AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	Yeah, the SRM's logic needs to recalibrated desperately by Nissan.

06-08-2012, 12:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
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06-08-2012, 07:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 13	You guys rev matching (no SRM) with the stock pedals? If yes, which pedal gets the heel and which one gets the toe? I find the pedal placement in the Z kinda tough to work with.