Automobile Magazine: 40th Anniv 370Z versus new Mustang GT

PapoZalsa · 10-11-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It's this magical idea of love and friendship that makes all your problems go away for 10-years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first.

Waranty is out of the window once you start modding them. Plus your car need to have all the recommend services at the dealer for the warranty to hold some water.

BTW, I'm surprise the stealership didn't give me $hit today for my mild mods.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I have no doubt. I wanted to be a little more civil, but still aggressive, so my Ford Racing/Borla S-Type axle-back is being delivered tomorrow.

I thought you were gettin the complete Cat-back exhaust...

m4a1mustang · 10-11-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Waranty is out of the window once you start modding them. Plus your car need to have all the recommend services at the dealer for the warranty to hold some water.

I was being facetious!

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

BTW, I'm surprise the stealership didn't give me $hit today for my mild mods.

Honestly, most good service centers won't ever give you crap for mods unless it's obvious that something you added is causing problems.

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I thought you were gettin the complete Cat-back exhaust...

Nah, just the rear section. The factory exhaust is already 3" from the collectors back, and you retain the resonators to keep things more civil. Unlike the Z the 5.0 doesn't really gain much from a cat-back since the factory pipes flow really well to begin with.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-11-2010, 07:34 PM

Honestly, I am really impressed by the new Mustang; however, I'd rather have the Z. Why? Having a nicer sports car - a car they make Hot Wheels model out of, a car they feature on racing video games - is all about having something that makes you go "wow" every time you look at it. I tune and build my own performance setups, but I need something more in a sports car than just being straight up fast - be it on the strip or on the circuit. I couldn't give 2 sh*ts what anybody else thinks, but the kicker for me is to have a car that impresses me every time I walk away from it. The bright blue Evo X does it for me, as does the 370Z; every single time - "damn, self, that's a beautiful piece of machinery."

I could have a new 5.0 and boy would I make it fast, but I'd never get that warm and fuzzy feeling about it, cause at the end of the day it's still just a budget-built Ford and it just lacks that certain bit of character and charisma that the 370Z and other cars have.

Just my $0.02 USD.

Bleek · 10-11-2010, 07:52 PM

Sorry to bust in and share my opinion, but...

I'd rather have a car I never(or rarely) see on the road and be "unique" then to be like every other "sports car fanatic" and drive a mustang.

m4a1mustang · 10-11-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Honestly, I am really impressed by the new Mustang; however, I'd rather have the Z. Why? Having a nicer sports car - a car they make Hot Wheels model out of, a car they feature on racing video games - is all about having something that makes you go "wow" every time you look at it. I tune and build my own performance setups, but I need something more in a sports car than just being straight up fast - be it on the strip or on the circuit. I couldn't give 2 sh*ts what anybody else thinks, but the kicker for me is to have a car that impresses me every time I walk away from it. The bright blue Evo X does it for me, as does the 370Z; every single time - "damn, self, that's a beautiful piece of machinery."

I could have a new 5.0 and boy would I make it fast, but I'd never get that warm and fuzzy feeling about it, cause at the end of the day it's still just a budget-built Ford and it just lacks that certain bit of character and charisma that the 370Z and other cars have.

Just my $0.02 USD.

I certainly see where you're coming from, though I disagree about the budget-built and character bit. This thing is built to the same standard as the Z with the same quality materials, and it certainly has character!

The Z was an amazing car to look at and very fun to drive. I always turned to look back as I walked away and it would put a smile on my face, but the driving experience was lacking for me. I missed the V8 torque I was used to and the power just wasn't there.

The Mustang really does it for me. I love the look (it makes me smile just like the Z did) and the drive is exhilarating with the Brembo package. I really love it and am very happy with my decision. I was never unhappy with the Z, it just wasn't exactly what I was looking for.

As you guys can tell, I'm still actively involved in the Z community. Once a Z owner, ALWAYS a Z owner as far as I'm concerned. I love the 370Z and hope to park a 370 roadster alongside the 5.0 in the future!

We really need to just take a step back and realize that these are honestly two of the absolute BEST cars you can buy under $50,000 today. There is absolutely no doubt about it... the 370Z and the 5.0 are the best values and some of the outright best cars on the road today. I'm lucky to have spent time with both.

Red370 · 10-11-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I certainly see where you're coming from, though I disagree about the budget-built and character bit. This thing is built to the same standard as the Z with the same quality materials, and it certainly has character!

The Z was an amazing car to look at and very fun to drive. I always turned to look back as I walked away and it would put a smile on my face, but the driving experience was lacking for me. I missed the V8 torque I was used to and the power just wasn't there.

The Mustang really does it for me. I love the look (it makes me smile just like the Z did) and the drive is exhilarating with the Brembo package. I really love it and am very happy with my decision. I was never unhappy with the Z, it just wasn't exactly what I was looking for.

As you guys can tell, I'm still actively involved in the Z community. Once a Z owner, ALWAYS a Z owner as far as I'm concerned. I love the 370Z and hope to park a 370 roadster alongside the 5.0 in the future!

We really need to just take a step back and realize that these are honestly two of the absolute BEST cars you can buy under $50,000 today. There is absolutely no doubt about it... the 370Z and the 5.0 are the best values and some of the outright best cars on the road today. I'm lucky to have spent time with both.

spoken like a true enthusiast, brought a tear to my eye.

Soygen · 10-11-2010, 08:13 PM

I agree with WarmandSCSI. I'm really impressed with the new 5.0's performance vs price. It's pretty ridiculous.

I'll be honest though, performance was relatively low on my list when I bought my 40th Anni Z. Looks would probably be the primary reason. It moves quick enough, but it looks great and I rarely see them. I've already seen more of the new Mustangs in the last two months than I have seen of Z's the entire time they've been out.

Red370 · 10-11-2010, 09:19 PM

hello sir, you sure look fast!

m4a1mustang · 10-11-2010, 10:02 PM

Dude I'm a car guy first and a Mustang/Z guy second. Honestly I can't imagine how boring life would be if I blindly followed only one brand. I'm open to any and all cars... it's in my blood!

Red__Zed · 10-11-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Dude I'm a car guy first and a Mustang/Z guy second. Honestly I can't imagine how boring life would be if I blindly followed only one brand. I'm open to any and all cars... it's in my blood!

that's the way to be.

WarmAndSCSI · 10-11-2010, 10:05 PM

Never said I didn't like the new Mustang, I'm actually a fan of how it looks. However, it just doesn't do it for me. The stance is all wrong, there are too many of them already on the road, and they don't come in the right colors. live rear axle

I really would like to pick up a used GT500KR though. Mmmmmmmm

m4a1mustang · 10-11-2010, 10:08 PM

A live axle is better than a dead axle!!! Heyyyyyooooh!

ImportConvert · 10-11-2010, 10:22 PM

I think its reputation is the number 1 selling point of the mustang.

It is also its number 1 enemy in winning over NEW mustang customers.

If the mustang 5.0 had hit the market as a "new from scratch" design, I doubt it would get NEARLY the amount of negativity towards it from the Nissan, GM, etc. crowd.

kotik · 10-11-2010, 11:42 PM

so how would you guy's compare the 5.0 to C6?
really interested in your opinions....

optiontrader · 10-12-2010, 12:22 AM

I've driven several Mustangs over the past several years (er- decades), and they've never done much for me. I'd always think, "lots of noise, but no go", and it always felt like the car was driving you, not the other way around.

But the new 5.0 has been interested (again). That powertrain looks VEEERRYY nice!

10-11-2010, 07:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 19	Honestly, I am really impressed by the new Mustang; however, I'd rather have the Z. Why? Having a nicer sports car - a car they make Hot Wheels model out of, a car they feature on racing video games - is all about having something that makes you go "wow" every time you look at it. I tune and build my own performance setups, but I need something more in a sports car than just being straight up fast - be it on the strip or on the circuit. I couldn't give 2 shts what anybody else thinks, but the kicker for me is to have a car that impresses me every time I walk away from it. The bright blue Evo X does it for me, as does the 370Z; every single time - "damn, self, that's a beautiful piece of machinery." I could have a new 5.0 and boy would I make it fast, but I'd never get that warm and fuzzy feeling about it, cause at the end of the day it's still just a budget-built Ford and it just lacks that certain bit of character and charisma that the 370Z and other cars have. Just my $0.02 USD. __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT* - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

10-11-2010, 09:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	hello sir, you sure look fast! __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

10-11-2010, 10:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Dude I'm a car guy first and a Mustang/Z guy second. Honestly I can't imagine how boring life would be if I blindly followed only one brand. I'm open to any and all cars... it's in my blood! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-11-2010, 10:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
WarmAndSCSI A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,671 Drives: '08 Evo X \| '10 370Z Rep Power: 19	Never said I didn't like the new Mustang, I'm actually a fan of how it looks. However, it just doesn't do it for me. The stance is all wrong, there are too many of them already on the road, and they don't come in the right colors. live rear axle I really would like to pick up a used GT500KR though. Mmmmmmmm __________________ '10 PW 370Z 7AT - wife's car - Project Raspberry Cheesecake '08 Evo X - built motor+trans \| BB-X @ 32 psi \| CH3OH \| self-built+tuned - ??? WHP '01 Galant V6 - built motor \| GT35R \| self-built+tuned - 550+ WHP (retired)

10-11-2010, 10:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	A live axle is better than a dead axle!!! Heyyyyyooooh! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-11-2010, 07:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bleek Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 214 Drives: 2014 Audi A4 Rep Power: 15	Sorry to bust in and share my opinion, but... I'd rather have a car I never(or rarely) see on the road and be "unique" then to be like every other "sports car fanatic" and drive a mustang.

10-11-2010, 08:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Soygen Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 163 Drives: 2017 BMW M2 6MT Rep Power: 16	I agree with WarmandSCSI. I'm really impressed with the new 5.0's performance vs price. It's pretty ridiculous. I'll be honest though, performance was relatively low on my list when I bought my 40th Anni Z. Looks would probably be the primary reason. It moves quick enough, but it looks great and I rarely see them. I've already seen more of the new Mustangs in the last two months than I have seen of Z's the entire time they've been out.

10-11-2010, 10:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7628	I think its reputation is the number 1 selling point of the mustang. It is also its number 1 enemy in winning over NEW mustang customers. If the mustang 5.0 had hit the market as a "new from scratch" design, I doubt it would get NEARLY the amount of negativity towards it from the Nissan, GM, etc. crowd.

10-11-2010, 11:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
kotik Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4 Drives: 09 STI stg 2 Rep Power: 15	so how would you guy's compare the 5.0 to C6? really interested in your opinions....

10-12-2010, 12:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
optiontrader Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Smog Hell, SoCal Posts: 595 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 17	I've driven several Mustangs over the past several years (er- decades), and they've never done much for me. I'd always think, "lots of noise, but no go", and it always felt like the car was driving you, not the other way around. But the new 5.0 has been interested (again). That powertrain looks VEEERRYY nice! __________________ 40th Anniversary Z - 3M Paint Protection Film, CA Legal Tint! (70/40)

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