The Mustang is only a couple hundred pounds heavier than a Sport+Touring 370Z Coupe. The Camaro and Challenger are several hundred pounds heavier than the Mustang.

Z: ~3250 lbs
Mustang GT: ~3600 lbs
Camaro SS: ~3900 lbs
Challenger: ~3850 lbs

A bit more than a couple (unless you are a pretty freaky, and we all know you are m4a1, :rofl2:).

Not trying to slam the Mustang, as I do like it (as I've already stated in other threads), just pointing out the weight differences I found when I googled for them.

Weight be damned, I still want the Boss 302.

That's for the base. The Sport + Touring brings it up over 3,300 lbs. So I was a little off.

And a SRT-8 Challenger is over 4,000 lbs.

And yes, I am very freaky.

What are you doing tonight?

Oh, you don't have to answer. I'll just take a look at my surveilance cameras. :yum:

:bowrofl:

yeah i got to drive the camaro SS a bit, friend has one. and its got a nice torquey rush to it.. but honestly thats it. The interior was soo bad.. just bad. Sure its got back seats but they aint easy to get to or super comfy. The trunk is okay. When i was shopping though for a car, I didnt even look at them. Instead I was considering a G8 gxp. same kinda power, but real back seats and a real trunk and a much nicer interior. Probably weighs less too and based of the same platform.

G8 GXP is a nice car. Designed in Australia as a derivative of the Holden Commodore for the US market. Unfortunately as Pontiac is no more they killed the car, although there is rumors it may return at some point under the GM/Chevy name.

Yeah, I didn't have exact numbers (didn't feel like searching that much), but I figured they would be close enough. It's a shame the Challenger is such a pig, because looks wise, I like it the best out of the three revival "Muscle" cars. Less weight and a lower roof line (and of course better handling) would make it more of a real competitor.

The most objectionable thing I feel on the Challenger is just how massive and plain the sides are, they are basically one clean wall of metal and make the car look larger than it is. If the whole car shrunk slightly, it would be perfect especially with the 6 speed manual.

Yeah, the Challenger just looks fat. Its waaay too tall.

Using your numbers.....

Z: ~3250 lbs = 9.7 lbs/hp
Mustang GT: ~3600 lbs = 8.7 lbs/hp
Camaro SS: ~3900 lbs = 9.2 lbs/hp
Challenger: ~3850 lbs = 9.0 lbs/hp

THis is why the 'stang now rocks, plus it out-handles the other two americans easily and is creepiing up into Z territory.

the thing though about power.. weight all that is that its all relative. Yes lower weight could be nicer and higher hp could be nicer.. but its all relative to the design and engineering of the car as a whole. So much goes into how the power is put to the ground, the gear ratio's, aero dynamics, etc etc etc etc etc. that well in the end, people just have to go out and run the cars.

Not saying that a car with 336hp and weights 10,000lb's can beat a 370z but when people knacker over 100lb's or 15 hp in completely different cars.. ehh its a useless arguement.

Thats why i spent about 3 months test driving different cars each weekend.

P.S The g8 is an awesome car. A manual 6.0 GTO is also a ton of fun.

id take a camaro over a stang in a heartbeat.

As for me, I would take Mustang over Camaro especially the Shelby model. Camaro looks flashy outside and muscular looking... But oh boy, inside, let's not talk about it. = Metal outside = Plastic inside...

Needless to say, I would stay with my 370. My friend who owns Porsche always dream about owning a Z whenever he sees my car. What's up with that?

I think your friend is just being nice....

id take a porche over a 370z in a heartbeat..lol.