Feeling really good about my Z thanks to an M3 driver.

AK370Z

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daimon1313

Ah well. I drive a Hyundai...but I'm not about to get a Genesis Coupe or that other thing they called a sports car.

Those guys are the d-bags.

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shadoquad

There's nothing to be ashamed of with Hyundai. Their quality has risen substantially, and they have the best warranty in the business.

We <3 you, Korean car driver.

Seether13

hey, does it mean that i am a dbag because i had a 350 before? which means i am now a 370 dbag!?!

Jeffblue

you're only a 350z dbag if you spend months shi1t talking the 370z on my350z.com saying how ugly it is and how the 350z is so much better just because you are trying to convince yourself that you dont want one, even though you do.

ZedZed

So true

Same with KIA, their cars look quite OK nowadays but since Hyundai bought KIA it's to be expected . Not sure if they both have the same models but just re-badged because I see both brands where I live.

Jeffblue

a hyundai or kia where you live probably costs as much as an altima here. right?

ZedZed

Well yeah, cars in general are way more expensive over here in Europe compared to ones in America, so you're probably right. A Rio (base model) costs $19900 (VAT) over here in Europe. In Euro terms they're quite cheap (If you're OK with the bad brand image).

I think Hyundai is slightly more expensive over here because it's got a slightly better brand image than KIA. A Sonata 2.0 diesel (Executive) is $37924 (VAT), that's the price of a Z in America .

Seether13

The Korean cars are taking over the world. The latest models are competing strongly in their respective classes in terms of quality and then in a lot of instance at a lower price. I have had a Hyundai before and only had wonderful miles with it, no issues whatsoever.

Luckily I didn't trashtalk the 370 before, although I had to get used to the auto when I drove it for a few months

KaienZ34

I thought ford owned kia...

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Seether13

The parent company of Kia is : Hyundai Kia Automotive Group

WarmAndSCSI

Yes, and most Kia's and Hyundai's share a common platform and are mechanically and structurally identical.

For example, the Kia Rio (of which Kia touts "the pursuit of happiness was never this much fun" - though I don't exactly know what's fun about a 110 bhp Korean sh*tbox with a torsion beam rear suspension) is identical to the Hyundai Accent (which Hyundai claims is "nimble").

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OK, I'm going to shoot myself after looking those two cars up. It must be a pretty dreary existence to be forced into buying either one of these and be convinced they're either "fun" or "nimble."

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Jeffblue

the cost of living in the US varies significantly from state to state. certain states don't have certain types of taxes. land is cheaper, etc. where i live, 400k gets you in the door of a really small house on 1/4 acre. other places, that can get you a mansion.

ZedZed

Around Brussels $400k gets you a nice 80-90m² apartment .

I wish I could live in New England, man that place was awesome. I can only dream of driving my Z around those twisty turny roads in those fantastic areas with those superb looking wooden villas. I loved America when I traveled there, but it is SOOOOOOOO different in so many respects to Europe that it felt like I was on another planet altogether. Everybody acts so differently there than they do here. In contrast, the French speaking part of Canada looks and feels much more like Europe. It threw me and my friends completely.

You have a way better purchasing power in the the US but it's a known fact (at least it's our perception) that employees have to kill themselves working in the states. You have very different working ethics to ours.

Anyway, I'm getting a little off topic

I think the Z costs even more over in the Netherlands from what I saw on a Dutch youtube video review last week. I know it's disgusting, we're getting raped in Europe.

Maxima09

I can vouch for that...it really depends where you live in terms of haivng extra money for cars etc.