Baby got hit and run

sonic370 · 06-20-2010, 05:51 PM

Here are some pics from the hit and run from last week.

Trips · 06-20-2010, 05:55 PM

Sad to see what happened, Your Ins will make it all better.
Good Luck

and your title is misleading

it sent a message of a little kid being run over.

Hi-Step'n370Z · 06-20-2010, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's

Sad to see what happened, Your Ins will make it all better.
Good Luck

Agree.

Hit and run huh? Karma will get him/her somewhere down the road, probably right about the time they get themselves a car that means as much to them as your Z does to you.

v8zracer260z · 06-20-2010, 06:04 PM

That sucks! On the good sign the damage appears to be bolt on parts only. There will probably be additional damage behind the bumper. I also saw a mark on hte wheel so in addition to what you see get the insurance company to add a balance and alignment at minimum and possibly replace the wheel. I manage a body shop and if I can be of help please contact me.

sonic370 · 06-20-2010, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8zracer260z

That sucks! On the good sign the damage appears to be bolt on parts only. There will probably be additional damage behind the bumper. I also saw a mark on hte wheel so in addition to what you see get the insurance company to add a balance and alignment at minimum and possibly replace the wheel. I manage a body shop and if I can be of help please contact me.

Thanks for the info. Adjustment does include new wheel with balance and alignment. I'M Worried about the paint matching the total was billed at about 4500. What are some things i should look for before i sign the papers.

v8zracer260z · 06-20-2010, 06:23 PM

Don't sign any thing untill repairs are completed to your satisfaction. Do you have an electronic copy of the estimate? If so email it to me and I'll look for anything missing or fax it to my work at 352-373-8366 and I'll look it over tomorrow. I posted this on a previous post hope it helps

As for selecting a body shop do your homework on selecting a shop. I have been managing body shops for over 15 years and have over 25 years in the bussiness. Unfortunately the last place you should go is where the insurance company sends you. These shops often give discounts and concessions to the insurance company to recieve their work. This is only good for the insurance company and not the body shop. The body shop must then cut corners, buy cheaper materials, hire cheaper techs, ect in order to counter the dicounts they offer the insurance company. This does not lead to quality repairs.
As for going to where the dealership recomends this is usually a better choice because the dealership has there reputation at stake and if they refer a lousy shop the customer will remember when it comes time to buy a new car. Reguardless ask around and ask to see work they have done and inspect the facility. I have found that body shops that are clean and we kept generally do better work. It is a matter of taking pride in your work and what you do. The best shops I've seen have been small Mom & Pop shops because they put their name on every job. In your case insist on brand new OEM parts as your car is so new. Generally most insurance companies will do this for cars less than 1 year old and with less than 12,000 miles. You can still insist if you are a claimant (not your insurance company) as your car had original parts on it before the accident which was caused from their client.
Also make sure the shop offers a Lifetime guarantee on their repairs as sometimes it can take months or years for problems to occur. Such as rust from improper welding or damage from a water leak to develop. When the repairs are complete inspect the car very carefully as it is easier to correct any problems before the car leaves the shop. If problems are found get with the owner or manager and arrange for this to be fixed before you pick up the car or return your rental (Always inspect the repair before turning in the rental car or they may not put you back in one).
As for inspecting the repairs you the first thing to look for is color match and the texture of the paint. It must be consistant with the panels that were not repaired. This is often refered to as orange peel and most cars have some degree of it in the paint. Next check for panel alignment making sure gaps are even and straight. Now look down the sides using reflections to see and minor defects fron repaired areas not fixed properly. At the same time look for die back/ Sanding scratches under the paint (these appear as Blotchy or hazy areas where the top coat of paint was applied before the primer had fully cured). Nor open the hood doors and liftgate and check for paint edges in the jambs. Also check for loose missing or incorrect fastners. Look for part decals that were not removed from new parts. Under the hood look for emissions and other decals that need to be replaced. If major panels have been replaced the shop should have replaced the vin decals (only a few manufacture allow this) or provide you with the old ones cut from the original damaged parts. Now make sure the doors other panels open and close properly with minimal effort and no unusual noises.
Last test drive the car and listen for noises. If you had suspension work done check for any alignment issues (pulling, wandering, or excessive drifting), Vibrations (caused from damaged wheels, Debris inside wheel, or improper balancing). Check the air conditioning, radio, lights and any other electrical sysems affected from the collision.
Now back a the shop before you sign over the insurance check look over copies of the invoices to make sure they agree with what the insurace estimate says. Make sure you get copies of any frame print out and parts invoices and a copy of the shops Guarantee. Hopefully this will help you thru a difficult time. Unfortunately no matter how well the shop does the repairs you will still know that the car has been hit but at least you can make shur it was repaired correctly.
Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

Hope this helps
Rick

sonic370 · 06-20-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8zracer260z

Don't sign any thing untill repairs are completed to your satisfaction. Do you have an electronic copy of the estimate? If so email it to me and I'll look for anything missing or fax it to my work at 352-373-8366 and I'll look it over tomorrow. I posted this on a previous post hope it helps

As for selecting a body shop do your homework on selecting a shop. I have been managing body shops for over 15 years and have over 25 years in the bussiness. Unfortunately the last place you should go is where the insurance company sends you. These shops often give discounts and concessions to the insurance company to recieve their work. This is only good for the insurance company and not the body shop. The body shop must then cut corners, buy cheaper materials, hire cheaper techs, ect in order to counter the dicounts they offer the insurance company. This does not lead to quality repairs.
As for going to where the dealership recomends this is usually a better choice because the dealership has there reputation at stake and if they refer a lousy shop the customer will remember when it comes time to buy a new car. Reguardless ask around and ask to see work they have done and inspect the facility. I have found that body shops that are clean and we kept generally do better work. It is a matter of taking pride in your work and what you do. The best shops I've seen have been small Mom & Pop shops because they put their name on every job. In your case insist on brand new OEM parts as your car is so new. Generally most insurance companies will do this for cars less than 1 year old and with less than 12,000 miles. You can still insist if you are a claimant (not your insurance company) as your car had original parts on it before the accident which was caused from their client.
Also make sure the shop offers a Lifetime guarantee on their repairs as sometimes it can take months or years for problems to occur. Such as rust from improper welding or damage from a water leak to develop. When the repairs are complete inspect the car very carefully as it is easier to correct any problems before the car leaves the shop. If problems are found get with the owner or manager and arrange for this to be fixed before you pick up the car or return your rental (Always inspect the repair before turning in the rental car or they may not put you back in one).
As for inspecting the repairs you the first thing to look for is color match and the texture of the paint. It must be consistant with the panels that were not repaired. This is often refered to as orange peel and most cars have some degree of it in the paint. Next check for panel alignment making sure gaps are even and straight. Now look down the sides using reflections to see and minor defects fron repaired areas not fixed properly. At the same time look for die back/ Sanding scratches under the paint (these appear as Blotchy or hazy areas where the top coat of paint was applied before the primer had fully cured). Nor open the hood doors and liftgate and check for paint edges in the jambs. Also check for loose missing or incorrect fastners. Look for part decals that were not removed from new parts. Under the hood look for emissions and other decals that need to be replaced. If major panels have been replaced the shop should have replaced the vin decals (only a few manufacture allow this) or provide you with the old ones cut from the original damaged parts. Now make sure the doors other panels open and close properly with minimal effort and no unusual noises.
Last test drive the car and listen for noises. If you had suspension work done check for any alignment issues (pulling, wandering, or excessive drifting), Vibrations (caused from damaged wheels, Debris inside wheel, or improper balancing). Check the air conditioning, radio, lights and any other electrical sysems affected from the collision.
Now back a the shop before you sign over the insurance check look over copies of the invoices to make sure they agree with what the insurace estimate says. Make sure you get copies of any frame print out and parts invoices and a copy of the shops Guarantee. Hopefully this will help you thru a difficult time. Unfortunately no matter how well the shop does the repairs you will still know that the car has been hit but at least you can make shur it was repaired correctly.
Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

Hope this helps
Rick

Thanks man that helps a lot. I'll post after pics when its done.fingers are crossed!

Waiz · 06-20-2010, 06:59 PM

I wish you a quick recovery.

It doesn't look too bad so just remain patient.

fullmonty · 06-20-2010, 07:09 PM

I hope it works out for you

PapoZalsa · 06-20-2010, 07:45 PM

That sucks! Hope everything works out for you.

kenchan · 06-20-2010, 08:24 PM

that sucks.

yah, definitely nice pointers by v8zracer.

karma will get them back.

SkyZ · 06-20-2010, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8zracer260z

Don't sign any thing untill repairs are completed to your satisfaction. Do you have an electronic copy of the estimate? If so email it to me and I'll look for anything missing or fax it to my work at 352-373-8366 and I'll look it over tomorrow. I posted this on a previous post hope it helps

As for selecting a body shop do your homework on selecting a shop. I have been managing body shops for over 15 years and have over 25 years in the bussiness. Unfortunately the last place you should go is where the insurance company sends you. These shops often give discounts and concessions to the insurance company to recieve their work. This is only good for the insurance company and not the body shop. The body shop must then cut corners, buy cheaper materials, hire cheaper techs, ect in order to counter the dicounts they offer the insurance company. This does not lead to quality repairs.
As for going to where the dealership recomends this is usually a better choice because the dealership has there reputation at stake and if they refer a lousy shop the customer will remember when it comes time to buy a new car. Reguardless ask around and ask to see work they have done and inspect the facility. I have found that body shops that are clean and we kept generally do better work. It is a matter of taking pride in your work and what you do. The best shops I've seen have been small Mom & Pop shops because they put their name on every job. In your case insist on brand new OEM parts as your car is so new. Generally most insurance companies will do this for cars less than 1 year old and with less than 12,000 miles. You can still insist if you are a claimant (not your insurance company) as your car had original parts on it before the accident which was caused from their client.
Also make sure the shop offers a Lifetime guarantee on their repairs as sometimes it can take months or years for problems to occur. Such as rust from improper welding or damage from a water leak to develop. When the repairs are complete inspect the car very carefully as it is easier to correct any problems before the car leaves the shop. If problems are found get with the owner or manager and arrange for this to be fixed before you pick up the car or return your rental (Always inspect the repair before turning in the rental car or they may not put you back in one).
As for inspecting the repairs you the first thing to look for is color match and the texture of the paint. It must be consistant with the panels that were not repaired. This is often refered to as orange peel and most cars have some degree of it in the paint. Next check for panel alignment making sure gaps are even and straight. Now look down the sides using reflections to see and minor defects fron repaired areas not fixed properly. At the same time look for die back/ Sanding scratches under the paint (these appear as Blotchy or hazy areas where the top coat of paint was applied before the primer had fully cured). Nor open the hood doors and liftgate and check for paint edges in the jambs. Also check for loose missing or incorrect fastners. Look for part decals that were not removed from new parts. Under the hood look for emissions and other decals that need to be replaced. If major panels have been replaced the shop should have replaced the vin decals (only a few manufacture allow this) or provide you with the old ones cut from the original damaged parts. Now make sure the doors other panels open and close properly with minimal effort and no unusual noises.
Last test drive the car and listen for noises. If you had suspension work done check for any alignment issues (pulling, wandering, or excessive drifting), Vibrations (caused from damaged wheels, Debris inside wheel, or improper balancing). Check the air conditioning, radio, lights and any other electrical sysems affected from the collision.
Now back a the shop before you sign over the insurance check look over copies of the invoices to make sure they agree with what the insurace estimate says. Make sure you get copies of any frame print out and parts invoices and a copy of the shops Guarantee. Hopefully this will help you thru a difficult time. Unfortunately no matter how well the shop does the repairs you will still know that the car has been hit but at least you can make shur it was repaired correctly.
Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

Hope this helps
Rick

Wow, nice write up + rep, if i happen to be unlucky enough to be hit, this will be great help. maybe consider copying this into a new thread in another section and stickying it so members know what to do in these situations?

Zsteve · 06-20-2010, 10:09 PM

If you have a good ins company, they will take care of you. Besides the initial fix and payment, if anything is wrong after the estimate they can still add to it and adjust thier estimate. I wouldnt go in there and give them the impression you dont trust them cuz then they might cut corners. Ive never had a problem with my ins company fixing things even after the estimate was done and more was found. Usaully you have to get 3 estimates and they go with the lower or avg so I would make sure I get some that are high if they want this. Body shops charge all kinds of extras to make money and the ins companies know this but that doesnt mean that they wont do good work. But if you have a good shop that you use and trust then get an estimate from them that is low and then get some from somewhere else that are high and then go to the lower one.

Slickshadow · 06-21-2010, 12:34 AM

I'm sorry this happened to you. If i was the one that got hit i would have chased him down and made him pull over.

KillerBee370 · 06-21-2010, 12:37 AM

This is such a pisser to see. If there's a bright side it's that "karma" is already most likely alive and well in this douches life and you STILL drive a nicer car (even in it's current condition)

06-20-2010, 05:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,728 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Sad to see what happened, Your Ins will make it all better. Good Luck and your title is misleading it sent a message of a little kid being run over. __________________ Last edited by Trips; 06-20-2010 at 06:00 PM.

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06-20-2010, 07:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
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06-20-2010, 06:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
v8zracer260z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Micanopy Posts: 124 Drives: 09 370Z blk touring Rep Power: 15	That sucks! On the good sign the damage appears to be bolt on parts only. There will probably be additional damage behind the bumper. I also saw a mark on hte wheel so in addition to what you see get the insurance company to add a balance and alignment at minimum and possibly replace the wheel. I manage a body shop and if I can be of help please contact me.

06-20-2010, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
v8zracer260z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Micanopy Posts: 124 Drives: 09 370Z blk touring Rep Power: 15	Don't sign any thing untill repairs are completed to your satisfaction. Do you have an electronic copy of the estimate? If so email it to me and I'll look for anything missing or fax it to my work at 352-373-8366 and I'll look it over tomorrow. I posted this on a previous post hope it helps As for selecting a body shop do your homework on selecting a shop. I have been managing body shops for over 15 years and have over 25 years in the bussiness. Unfortunately the last place you should go is where the insurance company sends you. These shops often give discounts and concessions to the insurance company to recieve their work. This is only good for the insurance company and not the body shop. The body shop must then cut corners, buy cheaper materials, hire cheaper techs, ect in order to counter the dicounts they offer the insurance company. This does not lead to quality repairs. As for going to where the dealership recomends this is usually a better choice because the dealership has there reputation at stake and if they refer a lousy shop the customer will remember when it comes time to buy a new car. Reguardless ask around and ask to see work they have done and inspect the facility. I have found that body shops that are clean and we kept generally do better work. It is a matter of taking pride in your work and what you do. The best shops I've seen have been small Mom & Pop shops because they put their name on every job. In your case insist on brand new OEM parts as your car is so new. Generally most insurance companies will do this for cars less than 1 year old and with less than 12,000 miles. You can still insist if you are a claimant (not your insurance company) as your car had original parts on it before the accident which was caused from their client. Also make sure the shop offers a Lifetime guarantee on their repairs as sometimes it can take months or years for problems to occur. Such as rust from improper welding or damage from a water leak to develop. When the repairs are complete inspect the car very carefully as it is easier to correct any problems before the car leaves the shop. If problems are found get with the owner or manager and arrange for this to be fixed before you pick up the car or return your rental (Always inspect the repair before turning in the rental car or they may not put you back in one). As for inspecting the repairs you the first thing to look for is color match and the texture of the paint. It must be consistant with the panels that were not repaired. This is often refered to as orange peel and most cars have some degree of it in the paint. Next check for panel alignment making sure gaps are even and straight. Now look down the sides using reflections to see and minor defects fron repaired areas not fixed properly. At the same time look for die back/ Sanding scratches under the paint (these appear as Blotchy or hazy areas where the top coat of paint was applied before the primer had fully cured). Nor open the hood doors and liftgate and check for paint edges in the jambs. Also check for loose missing or incorrect fastners. Look for part decals that were not removed from new parts. Under the hood look for emissions and other decals that need to be replaced. If major panels have been replaced the shop should have replaced the vin decals (only a few manufacture allow this) or provide you with the old ones cut from the original damaged parts. Now make sure the doors other panels open and close properly with minimal effort and no unusual noises. Last test drive the car and listen for noises. If you had suspension work done check for any alignment issues (pulling, wandering, or excessive drifting), Vibrations (caused from damaged wheels, Debris inside wheel, or improper balancing). Check the air conditioning, radio, lights and any other electrical sysems affected from the collision. Now back a the shop before you sign over the insurance check look over copies of the invoices to make sure they agree with what the insurace estimate says. Make sure you get copies of any frame print out and parts invoices and a copy of the shops Guarantee. Hopefully this will help you thru a difficult time. Unfortunately no matter how well the shop does the repairs you will still know that the car has been hit but at least you can make shur it was repaired correctly. Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions. Hope this helps Rick

06-20-2010, 06:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	I wish you a quick recovery. It doesn't look too bad so just remain patient.

06-20-2010, 08:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	that sucks. yah, definitely nice pointers by v8zracer. karma will get them back.

06-21-2010, 12:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
Slickshadow Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New york Posts: 13 Drives: 09' 370Z RED MT Rep Power: 15	I'm sorry this happened to you. If i was the one that got hit i would have chased him down and made him pull over.

06-21-2010, 12:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	This is such a pisser to see. If there's a bright side it's that "karma" is already most likely alive and well in this douches life and you STILL drive a nicer car (even in it's current condition)