Fun question for Auto guys

Vegitto-kun · 06-04-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

In racing terms in a racecar on a track it doesn't make sense. With almost any sequential shifter (which is essentially what the "stick" becomes in a 7AT in manual mode) momentum plays a large part in shifting. While accelerating, momentum is forcing you "back" into your seat and hence, an "upshift" should be a simple pull on the stick to shift whereas while braking, all the momentum is being forced forward and intstead of fighting that momentum, it is easier at that point to simply "push" forward for a downshift.

As is the case with street cars with a "civilian" form of sequential shifter, I guess auto manufacturers figure up is up and down is down. As a track driver it makes me crazy but what can you do? Although my DD is not a performance car, it is an auto with paddles and this "sequential" shifter in "manual" mode.

I had actually considered putting a true sequential shifter in my 6MT but I haven't heard of anyone manufacturing the unit yet.

I honestly still don't see the problem. its not like your hand flies into the back when accelerating so what is the problem with the "up"shift?

I know plenty of people who bash these type of stuff because "racing drivers do it"

I know people who shake around their steering wheel while turning because they see F1 drivers do it.

SkyZ · 06-04-2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

I honestly still don't see the problem. its not like your hand flies into the back when accelerating so what is the problem with the "up"shift?

I know plenty of people who bash these type of stuff because "racing drivers do it"

I know people who shake around their steering wheel while turning because they see F1 drivers do it.

haha the problem is habits, my habit is to pull back to up shift and push forward to down.

its like playing a fps game and having the vertical axis inverted.

KillerBee370 · 06-04-2010, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

I honestly still don't see the problem. its not like your hand flies into the back when accelerating so what is the problem with the "up"shift?

I know plenty of people who bash these type of stuff because "racing drivers do it"

I know people who shake around their steering wheel while turning because they see F1 drivers do it.

Maybe not with your Z.

That was a joke but I have to address your other comments because it was spoken like someone that has never been to a track and hasn't felt the subtleties of steering feedback while cornering.

First of all, I'm not saying that I'm a "racing driver" but I do have quite a bit of track time under my belt and I consider myself a pretty good driver who knows a thing or two about feedback from the car and how to register it while behind the wheel. So bashing? No. Pracitcality? Yes.

As for "shaking the steering wheel around", small, very fast adjustments are usually (or should be) taking place while one is cornering as they are feeling where grip is beggining to become an issue while on track when you are pushing your car to it's grip limits. It was said that Colin Mcrae moved his hands to make just such adjustments so fast you could hardly see his hands move. And I'm not talking about in the dirt either.

Anyway to make a long story short, I wasn't bashing. But I don't expect you to know the difference anyhow.

sonic370 · 06-04-2010, 05:49 PM

I'm just slow i guess. This is my first AT with paddle's which i really like but
i find it easier to use the stick back to down shift forward to up shift.
keeps me focused on the road. but do find myself using the paddles more and more.

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06-04-2010, 05:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 19	I'm just slow i guess. This is my first AT with paddle's which i really like but i find it easier to use the stick back to down shift forward to up shift. keeps me focused on the road. but do find myself using the paddles more and more.