Went to a chevy dealership today...

370Zsteve · 05-28-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Do what makes you happy, but if you are having to stretch to cover TT&L I think it's probably not a good decision, at least right now.

Truer words were never spoken. I also note that Corvettes are everywhere, not much exclusivity. I also note that most Vette owners are 60-75 years old.

GM makes a big deal (as does Ford) about highway mileage numbers for the Vette (and Ford with the new Mustang GT). In the real world, however, expect about 12-13mpg (combined) with a big V-8. Don't believe me? Look at Car & Driver's fuel economy ratings on their road tests.

So...when gasoline is again $4/gallon, you will be crying in your beer that you gave up your fuel-efficient 6-cylinder Nissan. And when the Vette's crappy interior and shitty seats lose their new-car luster....

kannibul · 05-28-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Truer words were never spoken. I also note that Corvettes are everywhere, not much exclusivity. I also note that most Vette owners are 60-75 years old.

GM makes a big deal (as does Ford) about highway mileage numbers for the Vette (and Ford with the new Mustang GT). In the real world, however, expect about 12-13mpg (combined) with a big V-8. Don't believe me? Look at Car & Driver's fuel economy ratings on their road tests.

So...when gasoline is again $4/gallon, you will be crying in your beer that you gave up your fuel-efficient 6-cylinder Nissan. And when the Vette's crappy interior and shitty seats lose their new-car luster....

Real world, I get around 20MPG...plus, given that I didn't drive the Z much, I likely won't drive the Corvette much. I put 3300 miles on the Z on the year I've had it.

That's not a whole lot of miles...a Corvette would probably be a little less, I imagine. So, gas prices aren't that big of a concern.

My beef with the Z mostly comes down to that I chose the 7AT over the 6MT - I wanted a 6MT, but couldn't get one, and took a "better deal" from the dealership. I also wanted platinum...but again, they were of course telling me that if I had to order it from another dealer or from Japan, that there'll be charges associated with it. More than likely, had I stuck to my guns, I wouldn't be considering anything else.

But...having driven the corvette, it's a damn fine car. Even though it is a base model, I'm not that worried about it.

The only thing about this specific car that I'm 50/50 on, is the color. Looks amazing in black, but, given what I go through with the Z (also black), I think my OCD will find a 6th gear...lol

I've had cheap cars all my life - the Z is the most expensive car I've had. It has a lot of plastic inside....but I find the seats in the corvette, and the feeling of more room, better.

Maybe I'm seeing through rose-colored glasses...but I will say the ride in the Z is definately sharper on bumps...that was clear to me.

shadoquad · 05-28-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Real world, I get around 20MPG...plus, given that I didn't drive the Z much, I likely won't drive the Corvette much. I put 3300 miles on the Z on the year I've had it.

That's not a whole lot of miles...a Corvette would probably be a little less, I imagine. So, gas prices aren't that big of a concern.

My beef with the Z mostly comes down to that I chose the 7AT over the 6MT - I wanted a 6MT, but couldn't get one, and took a "better deal" from the dealership. I also wanted platinum...but again, they were of course telling me that if I had to order it from another dealer or from Japan, that there'll be charges associated with it. More than likely, had I stuck to my guns, I wouldn't be considering anything else.

But...having driven the corvette, it's a damn fine car. Even though it is a base model, I'm not that worried about it.

The only thing about this specific car that I'm 50/50 on, is the color. Looks amazing in black, but, given what I go through with the Z (also black), I think my OCD will find a 6th gear...lol

I've had cheap cars all my life - the Z is the most expensive car I've had. It has a lot of plastic inside....but I find the seats in the corvette, and the feeling of more room, better.

Maybe I'm seeing through rose-colored glasses...but I will say the ride in the Z is definately sharper on bumps...that was clear to me.

Just curious. Have you considered getting a very-slightly-used vette somewhere? May bring that price tag down a bump. I'm personally of the mind that I like brand new cars better, but if you can find one with, say, 5k miles on it, that would definitely bring the price closer.

mrcardio · 05-28-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Truer words were never spoken. I also note that Corvettes are everywhere, not much exclusivity. I also note that most Vette owners are 60-75 years old.

GM makes a big deal (as does Ford) about highway mileage numbers for the Vette (and Ford with the new Mustang GT). In the real world, however, expect about 12-13mpg (combined) with a big V-8. Don't believe me? Look at Car & Driver's fuel economy ratings on their road tests.

So...when gasoline is again $4/gallon, you will be crying in your beer that you gave up your fuel-efficient 6-cylinder Nissan. And when the Vette's crappy interior and shitty seats lose their new-car luster....

Well the MPG you see from Car & Driver and other magazine tester’s is a result of constant flogging of the vehicle. It's the same with pretty much any car they test. The Vette gets commendable MPG because of it's great power to weight ratio but of course you're going to get **** MPG if you drive like a mad man everywhere just like any other vehicle.

Older folks drive vettes? So what, why let stereotypes push you away from having a really nice sports car? And even though the design is a bit old it still looks fantastic in my opinion and I would think most people think the same if you happen to be worried about what others think. The only thing I’d be worry about is the insurance; I hear it’s quite high for vettes.

kannibul · 05-28-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Well the MPG you see from Car & Driver and other magazine tester’s is a result of constant flogging of the vehicle. It's the same with pretty much any car they test. The Vette gets commendable MPG because of it's great power to weight ratio but of course you're going to get **** MPG if you drive like a mad man everywhere just like any other vehicle.

Older folks drive vettes? So what, why let stereotypes push you away from having a really nice sports car? And even though the design is a bit old it still looks fantastic in my opinion and I would think most people think the same if you happen to be worried about what others think. The only thing I’d be worry about is the insurance; I hear it’s quite high for vettes.

I just got a quote from my insurance agent...

My insurance will go up a whole $4.22 every 6mo over the Z.

lol!

mrcardio · 05-28-2010, 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=kannibul;553973]I just got a quote from my insurance agent...

My insurance will go up a whole $4.22 every 6mo over the Z.

lol![/QUOTE

Wow that wouldn't be an issue then.

kannibul · 05-28-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Wow that wouldn't be an issue then.

I laughed when my agent told me - I said I'm making a difficult decision, and you couldn't make it easier by making it a lot more or a lot less?

She laughed as well, and said, well I could make it higher, if that helps.

carbonguy · 05-28-2010, 12:50 PM

FWIW, I purchased my 09 Z06 (now traded) in March 09 for $13K under MSRP. Not sure what the current market, but deals can still be had.

370Zsteve · 05-29-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by carbonguy

FWIW, I purchased my 09 Z06 (now traded) in March 09 for $13K under MSRP. Not sure what the current market, but deals can still be had.

Carbonguy...you traded the Vette for the Z? If so, give Kannibul your opinion of both!

370Zsteve · 05-29-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Well the MPG you see from Car & Driver and other magazine tester’s is a result of constant flogging of the vehicle. It's the same with pretty much any car they test. The Vette gets commendable MPG because of it's great power to weight ratio but of course you're going to get **** MPG if you drive like a mad man everywhere just like any other vehicle.

Older folks drive vettes? So what, why let stereotypes push you away from having a really nice sports car? And even though the design is a bit old it still looks fantastic in my opinion and I would think most people think the same if you happen to be worried about what others think. The only thing I’d be worry about is the insurance; I hear it’s quite high for vettes.

First, let me just say I love Corvettes. And you are spot on about the high insurance costs. Agreed, C&D will flog the vehicle, but that's not happening constantly. And my opinion is that we flog the vehicle on occasion as well, so I usually agree with C&D's "observed mpg" numbers.

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mrcardio Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Florida Posts: 219 Drives: 08 MS3 Rep Power: 17	[QUOTE=kannibul;553973]I just got a quote from my insurance agent... My insurance will go up a whole $4.22 every 6mo over the Z. lol![/QUOTE Wow that wouldn't be an issue then.

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carbonguy Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern VA Posts: 23 Drives: 2011 GT 500 SVT Rep Power: 17	FWIW, I purchased my 09 Z06 (now traded) in March 09 for $13K under MSRP. Not sure what the current market, but deals can still be had.