SRM: Nissan's View, Failure to Change the Industry

Dwight Frye · 12-02-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I dont think when I downshift, its muscle memory, clutch in, blip, release, that simple. I dont feel that I need a computer to blip the throttle for me and I think alot of people in the automotive world feel the same way. Cool feature? sure, necessary for people that have been driving manual transmissions their whole life without it? definitely not. This is why copycats havent emerged, its not imperative to have.

I agree. It's a cool feature and works as designed but for daily driving I leave mine off. And when I go for a spirited mountain drive and switch it on, I end up fighting it because my muscle memory and habits are so ingrained after driving a stick shift starting off road in a Meyers Manx dune buggy in 1968 that I have to consciously not blip the throttle or double clutch.

Lug · 05-22-2010, 10:44 AM

SRM has be available for about a year and everyone said it came out of the blue. I think design windows are a bit longer than that for cars so it would be unlikely to see anyone else with it for a bit longer.

CBRich · 05-22-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

SRM has be available for about a year and everyone said it came out of the blue. I think design windows are a bit longer than that for cars so it would be unlikely to see anyone else with it for a bit longer.

Here we go. It's only been about for about a year. It takes car companies years of planning before they put a car out. It's hard to say something hasn't caught on when no new cars have been developed (not released, developed) since it came out.

specZ · 05-22-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Here we go. It's only been about for about a year. It takes car companies years of planning before they put a car out. It's hard to say something hasn't caught on when no new cars have been developed (not released, developed) since it came out.

above post is by and far the biggest reason

TreeSemdyZee · 05-22-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

SRM has be available for about a year and everyone said it came out of the blue. I think design windows are a bit longer than that for cars so it would be unlikely to see anyone else with it for a bit longer.

+1
Twin clutches, etc. were out for quite awhile before everyone jumped on the bandwagon.
I love mine (SRM). Actually makes me "feel" like I know how to drive.

red6spd · 05-22-2010, 10:45 AM

The good old Stick Shift is slowly dieing

mts · 12-03-2013, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

The good old Stick Shift is slowly dieing

This. Except for "dying" instead.

Seriously, there is no rush out there to add any new technology to a manual clutch stick shift. It won't be too long before they aren't around at all anymore. On the Porsche forums there was a recent discussion of a large dealership that had just ordered 36+/- new 911's and only 3+/- in a traditional manual tranny. The Porsche PDK is about the best out there so that skews it some, but it still makes a pretty sad statement if you are a fan of the traditional manual offering.

JARblue · 12-03-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Everything follows F1 technology

I can't wait until the Z comes standard with an F1-type steering wheel

Haboob · 12-03-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I can't wait until the Z comes standard with an F1-type steering wheel

I do wish our steering wheel was a bit smaller. Seems kind of big. :/

alcheng · 12-04-2013, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I can't wait until the Z comes standard with an F1-type steering wheel

are you sure....???

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vipor · 05-22-2010, 10:50 AM

IMHO SRM is an awesome technology that's just too late to appear.

As others have stated above the standard pedal clutch and stick shift system will disappear in the coming years. Maybe even as little as 5.

Auto Tranny/Paddle Shift systems are strong, fast, and precise. There's a lot less wear on the car especially in the transmission but it also effects suspension and driveability. The roads around me are fairly bumpy in places and I've miss-shifted a good amount of times due to them too. An Auto would take that away as well.

kenchan · 05-22-2010, 12:35 PM

Not enough people interested in MT.

All my cars are MT's and SRM is turned "on" on my Z.

areyouin729 · 05-22-2010, 12:38 PM

I test drove it and it was cool but I've been driving manual my whole life so I didn't see a need for it

Jeffblue · 05-22-2010, 01:35 PM

There are a lot of people out their who's idea of driving manual does not include downshifting at all. so to talk about rev matching on downshifts and heel-toe downshifting like its something every driver knows how to do as a reason why this system hasn't caught on doesn't really make that much sense IMO. i think it allows people to drive a manual like it should be driven by an expert driver, without being an expert driver, nothing wrong with that.

Jeffblue · 05-22-2010, 01:45 PM

don't they have some sort of trademark on it, how does that kind of thing work with automotive technology?

05-22-2010, 10:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	SRM has be available for about a year and everyone said it came out of the blue. I think design windows are a bit longer than that for cars so it would be unlikely to see anyone else with it for a bit longer. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

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vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 43 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	IMHO SRM is an awesome technology that's just too late to appear. As others have stated above the standard pedal clutch and stick shift system will disappear in the coming years. Maybe even as little as 5. Auto Tranny/Paddle Shift systems are strong, fast, and precise. There's a lot less wear on the car especially in the transmission but it also effects suspension and driveability. The roads around me are fairly bumpy in places and I've miss-shifted a good amount of times due to them too. An Auto would take that away as well. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	There are a lot of people out their who's idea of driving manual does not include downshifting at all. so to talk about rev matching on downshifts and heel-toe downshifting like its something every driver knows how to do as a reason why this system hasn't caught on doesn't really make that much sense IMO. i think it allows people to drive a manual like it should be driven by an expert driver, without being an expert driver, nothing wrong with that.

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	don't they have some sort of trademark on it, how does that kind of thing work with automotive technology?