Down Shift W/O the Clutch!

370Zsteve · 05-11-2010, 06:51 PM

OP can I haz your VIN#, I am compiling a list for posterity

m4a1mustang · 05-11-2010, 06:52 PM

No need to rail on a fellow Virginia boy.

I think most of us already knew that we could shift without the clutch, but for any of the newbs out there this is a good thing to know should they ever destroy a clutch in the middle of nowhere, so this is useful information.

Togo · 05-11-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

No need to rail on a fellow Virginia boy.

I think most of us already knew that we could shift without the clutch, but for any of the newbs out there this is a good thing to know should they ever destroy a clutch in the middle of nowhere, so this is useful information.

Yeah clutchless shifting is useful should you lose a clutch in the middle of no where but thats not double clutching.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-11-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

No need to rail on a fellow Virginia boy.

I think most of us already knew that we could shift without the clutch, but for any of the newbs out there this is a good thing to know should they ever destroy a clutch in the middle of nowhere, so this is useful information.

Yeah but the op said its for people that know. Newbs go research... then he is confusing double clutching with clutchless shift. It makes him look stupid lmao!

Anywayyyy... if he posted some kind of link for the newbs to get the info and not try to sound like hey I'm Mr. Know sh1t... he wouldn't be gettin ragged on. I normally hate to see people gettin ragged but this one is well deserved. Lol.

Chriz · 05-11-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah but the op said its for people that know. Newbs go research... then he is confusing double clutching with clutchless shift. It makes him look stupid lmao!

Anywayyyy... if he posted some kind of link for the newbs to get the info and not try to sound like hey I'm Mr. Know sh1t... he wouldn't be gettin ragged on. I normally hate to see people gettin ragged but this one is well deserved. Lol.

The op was wanted to explain clutchless downshifting using the syncro-rev and not double clutching, so it makes sense that he didnt explain the later. I dont see anywhere that he is confusing double clutching with clutchless shifting so this makes you look stupid lmao!

Anywayyyyyyyyy... he dosent have to put a link if he dosent want to, its his thread, and if you hate people getting ragged on why are you doing it? Lol.

FuszNissan · 05-11-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriz

The op was wanted to explain clutchless downshifting using the syncro-rev and not double clutching, so it makes sense that he didnt explain the later. I dont see anywhere that he is confusing double clutching with clutchless shifting so this makes you look stupid lmao!

Anywayyyyyyyyy... he dosent have to put a link if he dosent want to, its his thread, and if you hate people getting ragged on why are you doing it? Lol.

Read this again. He's confusing the two.

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Clearly you do not understand the art of the double clutch. It is a technique that allows the smoothest shift possible in a manual transmission. An added bonus is that a master at this technique can drive a manual car with a blown clutch.

Please do some research on double clutching and then respond...

How can you double clutch with a blown clutch???

Chriz · 05-11-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Read this again. He's confusing the two.

How can you double clutch with a blown clutch???

True you cant, i was just referring to the first post, however OP is wrong there. Maybe he is confused because double clutching does lessen the wear on a clutch. (Correct me if im wrong). However double clutching is useless these days...

Togo · 05-11-2010, 06:53 PM

Well I guess the OP is too embarrassed to respond or is googling what the difference between double clutching and clutchless shifting is so he won't be able to respond.

Time to lock this one down.

IBTL

(i couldn't pick just one soo here are two)

2theextreme · 05-11-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo

Lee Hotti strikes again!

Togo · 05-11-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

Lee Hotti strikes again!

Hahaha Tony, yeah I couldn't resist.

FuszNissan · 05-11-2010, 06:55 PM

Double Clutch

1. Push clutch pedal down
2. Shift to neutral
3. Lift clutch pedal up
4. "Blip"
5. Push clutch pedal down
6. Shift into lower gear
7. Lift clutch pedal up

Trips · 05-11-2010, 06:57 PM

I say this Turkey Thread is Done!!!

fullmonty · 05-11-2010, 07:06 PM

Its been real, its been fun, but this thread hasn't been really fun. IBTL

fullmonty · 05-11-2010, 07:11 PM

m4a1mustang · 05-11-2010, 07:24 PM

Let's break down the OP's post because I think a lot of people are misunderstanding him:

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Recently I have been trying to learn the forgotten art of double clutching. For all those who do not know what double clutching is, research elsewhere...

OP was practicing the "double-clutch" method of shifting. Because this post is NOT explaining that practice, he advises a google search to all who don't know what this technique is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Applying these principles I discovered that a 6MT with syncro-rev engaged can downshift (and up-shift most times) without the clutch.

After double-clutching, the OP decided to try to shift without the clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Try this.

1. from 5th gear push the clutch in.(or just pul the gear lever w/o the clutch)
2. next move the gear lever into neutral.
3. let the clutch out.
4. now without depressing the clutch push the gear lever to 4th gear.
5. Viola! The syncro-rev blips the throttle and the lever falls into 4th without needing to clutch in!

OP provides instructions on how to shift without the clutch. OP DOES NOT say the above instructions are instructions on how to double-clutch.

So, if you read his post again, it's pretty clear that he knows the difference between a double-clutch shift and a clutchless shift.

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