I think we might see him on TVs most wanted as the Z driving serial killer.

He got offended by the pic I posted, which btw was made by a guy in Georgia, lmao.

I lived in GA for 15 yrs and wasnt offeneded. But Im not from GA.

This crap is still going on? Jeez. Well I vented but hopefully the guy gets his 40th Z fixed to perfect condition. And yes normally I'm very civilized but I'm sick and fricking tired of people thinking they can mess with/damage other peoples' nice cars and somehow get away with it. Like I said hopefully he gets his car back to pristine condition.

oh man. i just read this whole thread. my condolences. perhaps you can get that fixed, an unload it quickly, then get another one. if you want an undamaged car, and can find one. an anniversary vehicle. of all the cars in the parking lot...really? damn!

that said, there are paint shops out there that can spray better than factory. i remember sending out an 88 RX-7, black, for a hood replacement and paint. the hood looked like glass. it was so nice, we had to send the car back so they could wetsand the rest of the damn car to match the new hood's finish.

but prep and knowledge of the paint and the gun are critical. find a shop known for working on Porsches if you have to. those people are picky as all hell.

meanwhile, i registered today specifically to give you this advice, as i work for an ins. co.

file your claim with THEIR insurance co. if you file with yours, they will want your deductible up front. then they will subrogate to retrieve it for you, later. also, going through their insurance company as a claimant gets you a rental car a lot faster, and without expense to you. your rental coverage usually only pays a percentage, if you have it.

additionally, with regard to DIMINISHED VALUE: that is determined AFTER the repairs, and is also paid by the other party's ins. an appraiser comes out to see the car and records shortcomings in the repair, if there are any. the ins. co. then evaluates the mileage, significance of impact, cost of repair, and value of the vehicle. don't expect to get much more than $1k. it really isn't fair at all. but what the hell in life is. good luck, man.

and from now on, park in the last spot, closest to the curb, and tie a pitbull to the bumper. damn non-driving s.o.b's. THIS IS WHY I PLAN TO RHINO-LINE MY ENTIRE TRUCK THIS SUMMER. ding that, kcufers!
Tj

I have a family member going through this right now. Rear ended with less than 100 miles and 5k worth of damage at least. I called my friend who owns their own insurance co, who I have mine through. She said that back around 2003 someone tried to get DM from Commerce insurance and failed. The Mass courts denied it and since then it's been put on the books in Mass that no insurance co has to pay out for DM. Do a Goggle search and you can read the entire court case and decision. Many other states, DC,NC and others down south have started paying DM claims but it won't be easy here in Mass. You will 100% need a lawyer. I hope you have some luck but I think you're going to really have a battle on your hands. My family member is still waiting for their car to finish being repaired. He wants to trade it in asap after it's done and the dealer said it would be a 5500.00 loss to replace the car. It was not a sports car, but his first ever new car and he is devastated. I probably shouldn't give too many details about the case since he is still in the process of doing the claim.

Please keep us up to date on how it goes so and i'll let you know if he has any luck. Perhaps we can help each other out. I think it's time Mass gets with the program and acknowledges these claims. If it was me, i'd be fighting this to the end with a lawyer. Even if I only got a little money, I'd be more hoping to change the law so they have to pay DM for everyone in the future.

And sorry about your 40th, I really love the color combo inside and out. I'm sure a good body shop will make it look great again, just be picky, if something isn't perfect, don't accept the car until it is! And you just can't win anymore when it comes to where we park. I've always park a mile away from the masses, in a corner spot, etc. It's great until a group of teenagers sees it there, all alone, no people watching them, and they key the entire side.. :icon14: Not on my Z, but my Maroon Titan. We're screwed no matter what.

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wow, sucks for the accord!
jk, that sucks...i'd kill her!

Nice hidden message.

got pics of the damage?

Most of the security cameras are going to be focused on the closer parking spots, in which case, a detective can pretty easily tell who did it, if they went in the store and bought anything.

Little update for you all.........I brought in the Z to the dealership yesterday to start repairs. They will be replacing the entire rear bumper as it was basically ruined when the lady repeatedly tried to back out of her parking spot, there is a large hole where the bumper meets the quarter panel. I wont list all the parts, but the entire left hand side has to be repaired, except for the front panel over the front tire, which surprisingly has no damage. The back driver side wheel has to be replaced as well as the side mirror too. I looked at the appraisers costs for the gunmetal rims and it looks like each rim costs roughly $775 to replace. After all these parts are replaced they have to apply the paint and clear coat. I JUST FOUND OUT
that they found an additional 1200 dollars worth of damage on top of the original $3000 grand they found a few days ago. I spoke with the services manager and he didn't have the details about the additional damages they found, so i need to call tomorrow about that. I will keep you guys updated and post pics when everything is finished. The dealership also wants to do a story on the repair job and post before and after pics on their website, so ill let you know when thats done.

Don't mean to be a geography nazi, but did the TS say the woman was Pakistani? I don't believe Pakistan is part of the Middle East.

To the TS, sorry to see that happen to your car.

Correction Pakistan borders Iran which I belive qualifies and the Middle east

Damage doesn't sound to bad.
Also avoid thing that they want to do an article on it.
That secures you that they will do the best job possible.

Dude sorry to see the damage to your car. What the shop has found is called supplemental damages which occurs most collision repairs other than very minor damage. As for selecting a body shop do your homework on selecting a shop. I have been managing body shops for over 15 years and have over 25 years in the bussiness. Unfortunately the last place you should go is where the insurance company sends you. These shops often give discounts and concessions to the insurance company to recieve their work. This is only good for the insurance company and not the body shop. The body shop must then cut corners, buy cheaper materials, hire cheaper techs, ect in order to counter the dicounts they offer the insurance company. This does not lead to quality repairs.
As for going to where the dealership reccomends this is usually a better choice because the dealership has there reputation at stake and if they refer a lousy shop the customer will remember when it comes time to buy a new car. Reguardless ask around and ask to see work they have done and inspect the facility. I have found that body shops that are clean and we kept generally do better work. It is a matter of taking pride in your work and what you do. The best shops I've seen have been small Mom & Pop shops because they put their name on every job. In your case insist on brand new OEM parts as your car is so new. Generally most insurance companies will do this for cars less than 1 year old and with less than 12,000 miles. You can still insist if you are a claimant (not your insurance company) as your car had original parts on it before the accident which was caused from their client.
Also make sure the shop offers a Lifetime guarantee on their repairs as sometimes it can take months or years for problems to occur. Such as rust from improper welding or damage from a water leak to develop. When the repairs are complete inspect the car very carefully as it is easier to correct any problems before the car leaves the shop. If problems are found get with the owner or manager and arrange for this to be fixed before you pick up the car or return your rental (Always inspect the repair before turning in the rental car or they may not put you back in one).
As for inspecting the repairs you the first thing to look for is color match and the texture of the paint. It must be consistant with the panels that were not repaired. This is often refered to as orange peel and most cars have some degree of it in the paint. Next check for panel alignment making sure gaps are even and straight. Now look down the sides using reflections to see and minor defects fron repaired areas not fixed properly. At the same time look for die back/ Sanding scratches under the paint (these appear as Blotchy or hazy areas where the top coat of paint was applied before the primer had fully cured). Nor open the hood doors and liftgate and check for paint edges in the jambs. Also check for loose missing or incorrect fastners. Look for part decals that were not removed from new parts. Under the hood look for emissions and other decals that need to be replaced. If major panels have been replaced the shop should have replaced the vin decals (only a few manufacture allow this) or provide you with the old ones cut from the original damaged parts. Now make sure the doors other panels open and close properly with minimal effort and no unusual noises.
Last test drive the car and listen for noises. If you had suspension work done check for any alignment issues (pulling, wandering, or excessive drifting), Vibrations (caused from damaged wheels, Debris inside wheel, or improper balancing). Check the air conditioning, radio, lights and any other electrical sysems affected from the collision.
Now back a the shop before you sign over the insurance check look over copies of the invoices to make sure they agree with what the insurace estimate says. Make sure you get copies of any frame print out and parts invoices and a copy of the shops Guarantee. Hopefully this will help you thru a difficult time. Unfortunately no matter how well the shop does the repairs you will still know that the car has been hit but at least you can make shur it was repaired correctly.
Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

Hope this helps
Rick

Man, I'm so sorry about all of this. I swear, if this had happened to me, I would have killed them.

I mean, how could she f**k up THAT BAD on a parking job? It almost looks deliberate! :mad:

yep. and why did she have to do that to a new and special edition/limited production car? there were other cars in the parking lot. it's just ain't right.

I mean, I really can't believe this. Is not possible. I don't know how did you managed that situation.
Take it to the best recommended shop from your insurance company.

There is stupid, there is braindead and then there is this. I mean how in the world did this woman get her car into that position? If it wasn't so sad it would be funny as hell. It looks like one of those epic fail blog pics. It's unbelievable she must have been on crack or something. No way a sober person could ever do this, it's insane.

Rick, I cant tell you how much I appreciate your response. This is my first accident and I will be printing out your instructions and making sure I follow them when i get the Z back. I sent the Z to the dealers body shop where I bought the car, so I am sure they will take care of everything and hopefully i wont have any problems. Thanks again

+rep for a well thought out explanation.

OP please update us on the Diminished Value claim...im extremely currious to see how the insurance company is going to handle it...these type of claims are VERY rare here in cali.

You may be correct, but it depends on the traditional classification vs. some more modern ones. I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

Keep on-topic. TY so much. :tiphat:

Will do, im right in the middle of getting the car repaired, apparently after the car is finished the claims adjuster comes out and can THEN do a diminished value report. I am still in the middle of researching what my options are and may need to contact a lawyer. Will keep u posted

GL buddy

Holy **** I had no idea, look at all the Linkbacks!

I am SEVERELY disappointed that no carnage pictures were posted.

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How are the repairs coming along?

looking at the pics it looks like you ran into her... how the eff is your driver side rear view not SMASHED in? Something isnt right...

C'mon broseph...I know everyone's not exactly Sherlock Holmes, but that ones easy. Her mirror was pushed in by his mirror (they kinda fold back easier than they fold in). If he pulled in and hit HER, HIS mirror would be the one pushed in...unless for some ungodly reason, 1) this woman likes to push her mirrors in on both sides after leaving her vehicle, or 2) he BACKED his car into the spot and pushed her mirror in.

Furthermore, looking at the car parked in front of both of them, that guy is too far to the right for him to really back in properly...not to mention the shopping cart in his way.

Im going to simply go with, "the OP isn't lying, because why the hell would someone even make up some ridiculous story like that, rather than simply not telling ANYONE?"

I agree any reputable body shop can make the color the car. Your car has ( ALL CARS HAVE) a paint code on them, that code is the paint formula for mixing that color! Just so you know, when they are painted at the factory the paint used is usually the lowest bidder. For example Nissan may use DuPont for a year or two then Sikkens may out bid DuPont and Nissan may use Sikkens for a few years. The only good thing about the factory paint is how it is cured compared to the way it is cured in the body shop! All so when they make a color such as silver or red or white even the factory may have several color variances of the same paint code there for you would have to custom make the formula to match a vehicle! At that point the paint code is just a starting point. Good luck on getting your car fixed!

I guess you are right... looking at her pics the other side mirror is out.. so yea... i retract my questionable accusations... apologies

bump i want to see some pics of the damage

How is the diminished value claim going? Is your car fixed yet? My family member isn't getting anywhere with his claim. A lawyer even said that Mass Insurance Law doesn't recognize diminished value. He wouldn't even take the case. Hope you're having better luck.

See what happens when you let to many immigrants into this country. They don't respect our nation and our love for our cars like we do. You can tell this by her back bumper. This obviously is not her first encounter. I am not a very rationale person as most of you are. If this were me I would have stabbed my tire iron through her torso and stuck her on the front of her hood for all to see. I do not know about you guys but the other day I saw a bran new mercedes SL63 amg in the parking lot there was an open spot next to it but i passed because I know how much that car costs and I respect it enough to give it some space. I will do this to any nice car that I know is babied. Why couldnt this stupid Cu@t do the same. Like I said total disrespect to this country and our values.