Remote Starts for MT question

Jeffblue · 03-10-2010, 04:21 PM

I have read many stories of why you need to have a failsafe on a MT car to put a remote start in safely, and having the car owners learn this by starting their car and having it drive itself into a pole or something. I don't understand how the remote starters for manuals can cause the car to start moving once you start the car , with the clutch fully engaged without giving it any gas. If i get in a car with a MT, start it and then just let out the clutch, it will stall if its in gear. How do these remote starts manage to make the car start rolling with out any gas? shouldnt the car just stall?

theDreamer · 03-10-2010, 04:22 PM

If left in gear, it is not rolling forward but leaping forward.
Also, some cars (not sure on the Z) but it will leap forward many times before it stalls out.

Jeffblue · 03-10-2010, 05:04 PM

ah i see. These cars that leap forward, is it because they are especially powerful? would they do the same that would happen if you were to just start it and stall it?

IDZRVIT · 03-10-2010, 05:08 PM

I remember way back when abusing a Mazda B2000 by putting it in 1st, not depressing the clutch and turning the key to the start position. The truck would actually lurch forward and start without pressing in on the clutch. Then it was just a matter of shifting properly through the gears and off I went.

CrownR426 · 03-10-2010, 05:16 PM

I don't see why you would have any problems with a remote starter.
As long as you are not in gear when parked!
It's kind of pointless if you park on hills.
If your area is flat then it's fine.

Lemers · 03-10-2010, 05:44 PM

I can see where leaving it gear can cause problems, but they have sensors that tell the nav if the ebrake is engaged. Why not a sensor that tells the car it's in gear or not?

Red370 · 03-10-2010, 06:18 PM

I never leave the car in gear, so it wouldnt be a problem with me, however, the car cannot be started without the keyfob being in the cab, so i dont see how this would work.

03-10-2010, 04:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	Remote Starts for MT question I have read many stories of why you need to have a failsafe on a MT car to put a remote start in safely, and having the car owners learn this by starting their car and having it drive itself into a pole or something. I don't understand how the remote starters for manuals can cause the car to start moving once you start the car , with the clutch fully engaged without giving it any gas. If i get in a car with a MT, start it and then just let out the clutch, it will stall if its in gear. How do these remote starts manage to make the car start rolling with out any gas? shouldnt the car just stall?

03-10-2010, 04:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	If left in gear, it is not rolling forward but leaping forward. Also, some cars (not sure on the Z) but it will leap forward many times before it stalls out. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

03-10-2010, 05:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 26	I remember way back when abusing a Mazda B2000 by putting it in 1st, not depressing the clutch and turning the key to the start position. The truck would actually lurch forward and start without pressing in on the clutch. Then it was just a matter of shifting properly through the gears and off I went. __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

03-10-2010, 05:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I can see where leaving it gear can cause problems, but they have sensors that tell the nav if the ebrake is engaged. Why not a sensor that tells the car it's in gear or not? __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

03-10-2010, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 295	I never leave the car in gear, so it wouldnt be a problem with me, however, the car cannot be started without the keyfob being in the cab, so i dont see how this would work. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-10-2010, 05:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	ah i see. These cars that leap forward, is it because they are especially powerful? would they do the same that would happen if you were to just start it and stall it?

03-10-2010, 05:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	I don't see why you would have any problems with a remote starter. As long as you are not in gear when parked! It's kind of pointless if you park on hills. If your area is flat then it's fine.

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