Edmunds Wraps Up 12 Months with the 370Z

Montez · 03-06-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

13.7 1/4 mile times ????
Thats not good.

Edmunds has never been known to get the best 1/4 mile times out of cars.....

nuTinmuch · 03-06-2010, 09:30 PM

I can't believe they trash it so much for road noise. Really?

I like how they admit how silly this is and yet continue to whine about it.

Red370 · 03-06-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

sure isn't, edmunds is the suck.

As far as times are concerned, Motortrend has professional drivers, so out of all the mags, I trust their numbers the most.

PapoZalsa · 03-06-2010, 09:51 PM

I like my 370Z, PERIOD!!!!!!!!

buweet · 03-06-2010, 10:06 PM

I don't even own a 370z and I like it. Road noise, you gotta be kidding. These "experts" will be really whining when the mfg improves this car like they did when the introduced the 280zx.

Endgame · 03-06-2010, 11:32 PM

geez.... man up edmunds....

Slynky · 03-07-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

A few interesting things in there:

1) they are babies and continue to whine about NVH and road noise. Give me a break already.

2) their oil cooler started to leak and had to be repaired. Make this #4 in terms of oil cooler problems documented.

3) Edmunds is full of retards. So the older car was slower to 60 and in the 1/4mi, but they claim it took more effort to do those runs? What does that mean? If they would have given more effort when the car was new, it would have been faster? Oh, and let's complain about decreased performance when the tires are worn out...stupid stupid stupid.

4) unfortunately they don't describe the braking conditions at all. This could easily be brake fade during aggressive driving that they are noticing. Enough of us have tracked the car to know that erratic brakes are not the norm.

5) Only Edmunds would think that 'air extractors' make for all the road noise and not the bare metal rear hatch floor and non-insulated wheel liners.

Essentially, an Edmunds review is equivalent to me asking my mother to drive the car and then explain everything she notices.

Especially like the closing line.

OMGWTFBBQ · 03-07-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Daishi

there arent even that many parts out for the new hondas..the newer body style civic si has as much stuff out as the z.

The 8th generation Civic has been around since 2006 and they JUST got engine management less than a year ago. At this rate, if you want something with a huge aftermarket following, go buy a Prius/Insight. Those seem to be the rage these days.

VCuomo · 03-07-2010, 10:53 PM

Road noise? If they want to compare road noise, they are welcome to go for a spin in my 1972 Corvette - the Z is whisper quiet compared to it. And I have driven my Corvette from SoCal up to the Bay Area and back (approx. 8 hour trip each way) and didn't suffer any lasting effects from that.

The Z is perfectly fine in the road noise/NVH department, thank you very much!

Pharmacist · 03-07-2010, 11:29 PM

all sports cars will be somewhat noisy due to skinny tires, stiff suspension and chassis, minimal sound insulation, etc..........

is it that the z is unusually noisy for a sports car or is it that most editors are used to lumbering luxury suv and sedans and are not used to the noise? i mean cars like a corvette, viper, f430, s2000, etc are they less noisy than the z?

vipor · 03-07-2010, 11:33 PM

My Z is quieter than my ex's G35 coupe.

Rocks being thrown in the rear wells are a different story, but overall the Z is the winner.

j.arnaldo · 03-08-2010, 10:26 AM

Aha, it's like with the woman you love...You KNOW she has defects, since she's human, but you love her anyway, huh? Same with our Zs. Still in love with her after all these years!

kenchan · 03-08-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

My Z is quieter than my ex's G35 coupe.

that's kinda odd. my G35C is quieter but the stock exhaust note is louder than my stock Z.

Endgame · 03-20-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Road noise? If they want to compare road noise, they are welcome to go for a spin in my 1972 Corvette - the Z is whisper quiet compared to it. And I have driven my Corvette from SoCal up to the Bay Area and back (approx. 8 hour trip each way) and didn't suffer any lasting effects from that.

The Z is perfectly fine in the road noise/NVH department, thank you very much!

Werd.... I JUST took a spirited drive in my Z. I LOVE the sound of even the stock Z at low and high RPMs. I do not know what all the complaints are about. I cannot WAIT until i get my CAI and exhaust done. She will sound out-freakin-standing then!!!

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-20-2010, 11:31 AM

I love driving the Z for the engine sound and aggressive punch at high revs. EDMUNDS seems to review every type of car like they are supposed to be family sedans or something. The only time they ever have any accurate reviews is when they drive muscle cars. So obviously not only are they unskilled in driving various types of cars. They only seem to be able to get accurate times from mustang and camaro ONLY! Has corporate sponsorship tainted all reviews? Or is edmunds just that dumb?
I know muscle car v8's tend to give more steady times. No skill is needed to make them go fast. Just slam on the gas. 4 bangers n 6's need a little more trickery on the stick or paddles to really make em fly. Edmunds can't master this skill for nothing.
I remember there gen coupe V6 review they got 0-60 in 6.4sec and 14.7 1/4 while in the same month MT gave it 5.5 and CD gave it 5.7 and both hit 14.0-14.2 range. At least with the Z the ratio wasn't as drastic. But edmunds always has some kind of crazy excuse for them not having comparable times to other publications.
One thing I have come to grips with though. Is corporate sponsorship outright controls reviews.
MT, loves NISSAN & HYUNDAI. C&D loves GM &BMW. Automobile magazine doesn't respect anything that's costs over $70k
I turned to a new source for my car reviews. The only magazine that has been 100% consistant to my test drives. (Though I still read the others to, I take what they write with a grain of salt) I read popular mechanics. A good group of guys there and they are car lovers. U get some str8 news and real criticisms without the in between comliment insult games that the major mags play.
I don't dismiss issues in major mags though. If they say the Z has a brake issue. I will say more than likely. There is some kind of issue. But it doesn't mean now the car is garbage. I myself don't like to buy 1st year newly engineered models till they have been proven. Something always goes wrong. With hyundai it was too many computer programs interchanging and causing ECU problems., infiniti had the battery and bubbling issues bmw always has something wrong and it seems the Z might have a brake issue on the sport package. But I know for sure, soon enough these issues will be moot. Sh1t happens.
The Z is still one of the greatest sub 50k cars out there

03-06-2010, 09:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 17	I can't believe they trash it so much for road noise. Really? I like how they admit how silly this is and yet continue to whine about it. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

03-06-2010, 09:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
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03-07-2010, 11:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	all sports cars will be somewhat noisy due to skinny tires, stiff suspension and chassis, minimal sound insulation, etc.......... is it that the z is unusually noisy for a sports car or is it that most editors are used to lumbering luxury suv and sedans and are not used to the noise? i mean cars like a corvette, viper, f430, s2000, etc are they less noisy than the z? __________________ 2009 370z Sport Touring/Nismo shift Knob/Z1 motorsports 34 row oil cooler

03-07-2010, 11:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	My Z is quieter than my ex's G35 coupe. Rocks being thrown in the rear wells are a different story, but overall the Z is the winner. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	I love driving the Z for the engine sound and aggressive punch at high revs. EDMUNDS seems to review every type of car like they are supposed to be family sedans or something. The only time they ever have any accurate reviews is when they drive muscle cars. So obviously not only are they unskilled in driving various types of cars. They only seem to be able to get accurate times from mustang and camaro ONLY! Has corporate sponsorship tainted all reviews? Or is edmunds just that dumb? I know muscle car v8's tend to give more steady times. No skill is needed to make them go fast. Just slam on the gas. 4 bangers n 6's need a little more trickery on the stick or paddles to really make em fly. Edmunds can't master this skill for nothing. I remember there gen coupe V6 review they got 0-60 in 6.4sec and 14.7 1/4 while in the same month MT gave it 5.5 and CD gave it 5.7 and both hit 14.0-14.2 range. At least with the Z the ratio wasn't as drastic. But edmunds always has some kind of crazy excuse for them not having comparable times to other publications. One thing I have come to grips with though. Is corporate sponsorship outright controls reviews. MT, loves NISSAN & HYUNDAI. C&D loves GM &BMW. Automobile magazine doesn't respect anything that's costs over $70k I turned to a new source for my car reviews. The only magazine that has been 100% consistant to my test drives. (Though I still read the others to, I take what they write with a grain of salt) I read popular mechanics. A good group of guys there and they are car lovers. U get some str8 news and real criticisms without the in between comliment insult games that the major mags play. I don't dismiss issues in major mags though. If they say the Z has a brake issue. I will say more than likely. There is some kind of issue. But it doesn't mean now the car is garbage. I myself don't like to buy 1st year newly engineered models till they have been proven. Something always goes wrong. With hyundai it was too many computer programs interchanging and causing ECU problems., infiniti had the battery and bubbling issues bmw always has something wrong and it seems the Z might have a brake issue on the sport package. But I know for sure, soon enough these issues will be moot. Sh1t happens. The Z is still one of the greatest sub 50k cars out there