SynchroRev Match Feature on 370z

FERRARI · 01-24-2009, 07:32 PM

Sure I do........good God ! do you know how dangerous it is to brake in turns ????? lol of course, you have to have a sports car suspension ...a very stiff and good suspension to do it going fast........hasnt anyone here ever been to driving school ?

speedworks · 01-24-2009, 07:37 PM

Actually I have been road racing (SCCA) for 9 years now. Trail braking? You are almost always slightly on the brakes as you enter a turn, it usually helps the car rotate initially through the turn. If not, you probably didn't carry enough speed into the turn, so you are probably going too slow anyway. The only other time, is if you are in a momentum class, and sometimes it is better to brake early so you can attempt to put the foot on the gas earlier. Also depends on the situation (trying to outbrake a competitor).

Joker57676 · 01-24-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI

Sure I do........good God ! do you know how dangerous it is to brake in turns ????? lol of course, you have to have a sports car suspension ...a very stiff and good suspension to do it going fast........hasnt anyone here ever been to driving school ?

Driving school or RACING school....there is quite a difference.

The idea with braking into the turn is you put the maximum weight on the front tires thereby giving them the most grip (much more than if the car is accelerating which places more weight on the back tires). The outside front tire, that would be the front left if you are turning right, will have the most grip of all four tires if you are braking and turning at the same time. This allows you to turn a little faster than you normally would.

Amature drivers, or drivers new to the track, are typically instructed to get their braking done before turning. As you noted, this is a safety issue. However, braking as you are turning is the far superior techinique if you are shooting for the lowest lap time (under normal conditions, ie not passing anyone, or driving in a Miata).

Mark

Crash · 01-24-2009, 10:34 PM

I brake before the turn, then accelerate through the turn. To each their own.

FERRARI · 01-24-2009, 11:13 PM

It makes a big difference if you are driving a mid or rear engine car.........oversteer has a lot to do with it.....also just how stiff your suspension is.......I just know that I do much better and have much more control over my car if I get my breaking done before I get to the turn........

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FERRARI Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Posts: 324 Drives: PERFECTION Rep Power: 494	Sure I do........good God ! do you know how dangerous it is to brake in turns ????? lol of course, you have to have a sports car suspension ...a very stiff and good suspension to do it going fast........hasnt anyone here ever been to driving school ? Last edited by FERRARI; 01-24-2009 at 07:34 PM. Reason: added something

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01-24-2009, 07:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
speedworks Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 550 Drives: PW purchased 01/09 Rep Power: 19	Actually I have been road racing (SCCA) for 9 years now. Trail braking? You are almost always slightly on the brakes as you enter a turn, it usually helps the car rotate initially through the turn. If not, you probably didn't carry enough speed into the turn, so you are probably going too slow anyway. The only other time, is if you are in a momentum class, and sometimes it is better to brake early so you can attempt to put the foot on the gas earlier. Also depends on the situation (trying to outbrake a competitor).

01-24-2009, 11:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
FERRARI Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Posts: 324 Drives: PERFECTION Rep Power: 494	It makes a big difference if you are driving a mid or rear engine car.........oversteer has a lot to do with it.....also just how stiff your suspension is.......I just know that I do much better and have much more control over my car if I get my breaking done before I get to the turn........