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frost 03-06-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 432229)
Switching auto insurance, the (new) agent told me what turned up.

Can't just get them online? :confused:

kannibul 03-06-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 432230)
Can't just get them online? :confused:

Probably, someone asked how I got it, and that's how I got it...lol

frost 03-06-2010 07:52 PM

lol, gotcha. we can get them for a few bucks online. but free is better!

Vegitto-kun 03-06-2010 08:31 PM

driving for about a year and 4 months

never had a ticket since I simply just don't speed

frost 03-06-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 432357)
driving for about a year and 4 months

never had a ticket since I simply just don't speed

Without busting balls, what's the benefit of a sports car if it never speeds?

Vegitto-kun 03-06-2010 08:41 PM

acceleration I guess?

Looks?

track days?

I mean one big fine if you are under 25 and instant license lose

frost 03-06-2010 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 432370)
acceleration I guess?

Looks?

track days?

I mean one big fine if you are under 25 and instant license lose

Hmm, can't accelerate very much without ending up speeding :bowrofl:

Instant loss of license? Hefty punishment.

Vegitto-kun 03-06-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 432377)
Hmm, can't accelerate very much without ending up speeding :bowrofl:

Instant loss of license? Hefty punishment.

yes young people are hated here

insurance = 3 X normal rate

ticket that is over about 15-20 mph too fast = instant license removal

untill you are 25 then suddenly you can do whatever you want and unless you go say 40- mph too fast they will not really take your license

frost 03-06-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 432383)
yes young people are hated here

insurance = 3 X normal rate

ticket that is over about 15-20 mph too fast = instant license removal

untill you are 25 then suddenly you can do whatever you want and unless you go say 40- mph too fast they will not really take your license

My license would have been taken a couple times if that were the case here :icon17:

Vegitto-kun 03-06-2010 09:01 PM

yes thus I don't speed

It apparently is extremely rare to not get into accidents and/or get fined in the first year of driving

I sure won that bet

Pushing_Tin 03-06-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 432180)
It just has to be a good one. You get what you pay for, and if you have something that cost you $50 ... :wtf2:

I paid $450 for mine, steep yes but if it saves two tickets a year with the resulting insurance increases it more than pays for itself. The GPS kicks azz since I no longer have to listen to false alerts.

frost 03-06-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 432394)
I paid $450 for mine, steep yes but if it saves two tickets a year with the resulting insurance increases it more than pays for itself. The GPS kicks azz since I no longer have to listen to false alerts.

I got the 9500, but I pass so many cameras on the way to work it was too distracting. Ended up downgrading back to the 8500.

gleonard 03-06-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 431982)
what gives him the right to stop you just to check your car? if he has no probable cause, he has no right to stop you. wouldn't this count as abuse of power?

He did flash me with radar, but my detector went off and I slowed down before he could get a good lock on. He said he knew I was over because the car I was passing on the freeway when he first spotted me he was able to lock onto. That car was going 70 in a 65. He just didn't give me a ticket because he also wanted to check out the Z.

gleonard 03-06-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 432166)
Had the Z for 14 months now and 10k miles, no pull overs or tickets. I also have a little friend though.

http://www.geardiary.com/wp-content/...ort-9500ix.jpg

I bought this same detector just before I embarked on my trip to MO and back from CA. Saved me several times. Almost no false alarms.

Jjaden 03-06-2010 10:57 PM

Last Monday I got pulled over by a cop driving the opposite direction on a highway.

I noticed him as I was passing by and I kept going, he didn't turn his flashers on right away but kept going for a little before he was able to do a U-Turn.

By this time I was pretty far ahead and thought I might be out of sight so I pulled over and hit a gas station and began to fill up.

He pulled up next to me as I was filling up and told me I was going 35KM over the limit which is 4 points and a 350$ fine. He asked me for my DL and registration/insurance and took it to his car.

I saw him on the radio for 3 mins, then he came back to me and said "Everyone needs a break from time to time, so today I'm giving you a break" handed me my papers back and walked away.

I can't recall the last time something so unexpectedly awesome has happened to me.

M. Ball = Coolest Cop Ever.......












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Pharmacist 03-06-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jjaden (Post 432508)
Last Monday I got pulled over by a cop driving the opposite direction on a highway.

I noticed him as I was passing by and I kept going, he didn't turn his flashers on right away but kept going for a little before he was able to do a U-Turn.

By this time I was pretty far ahead and thought I might be out of sight so I pulled over and hit a gas station and began to fill up.

He pulled up next to me as I was filling up and told me I was going 35KM over the limit which is 4 points and a 350$ fine. He asked me for my DL and registration/insurance and took it to his car.

I saw him on the radio for 3 mins, then he came back to me and said "Everyone needs a break from time to time, so today I'm giving you a break" handed me my papers back and walked away.

I can't recall the last time something so unexpectedly awesome has happened to me.

M. Ball = Coolest Cop Ever.......












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perhaps he let you go because he didnt manage to get a reading on his radar, or maybe the radar was off. if either of that happened, he technically cannot write a ticket

gleonard 03-06-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 432563)
perhaps he let you go because he didnt manage to get a reading on his radar, or maybe the radar was off. if either of that happened, he technically cannot write a ticket

or because he lost site of him. The odds may be low, but it could be argued that there was another car of the same color that he really saw speeding.

Vegitto-kun 03-07-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 432563)
perhaps he let you go because he didnt manage to get a reading on his radar, or maybe the radar was off. if either of that happened, he technically cannot write a ticket

I guess that must of been it.

I mean how can they fine you if they cant measure your speed

frost 03-07-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 432563)
perhaps he let you go because he didnt manage to get a reading on his radar, or maybe the radar was off. if either of that happened, he technically cannot write a ticket

Is that a Canada thing? I know cops can do visual estimations here. Maybe that's a state thing though.

StLRedrider 03-07-2010 11:36 AM

airplanes and the squares on the highway. i have been nailed that way too on the bike. that one cost me over 300.00. you never see them:confused:till it's too late and your on the side of the road

nuTinmuch 03-07-2010 11:37 AM

I've never had a problem with a cop before but I noticed that I was often being trailed/watched/etc when I started driving my 370. I figured that since I aim to make it loud and I also have a tendency to drove 5 - 10 over with traffic here that it might be a good idea to pick up a good detector.

I bought a 8500 X50 and pretty much love it. It works great. I've picked up a few cops from a half mile to a mile out so far. I've actually been surprised to see how many use X around here.

Pheonix 03-07-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 432867)
Is that a Canada thing? I know cops can do visual estimations here. Maybe that's a state thing though.

Way back when, I got stopped by a radar car who was on another stop as I passed them. He claimed that even though he hadn't laser tagged me, he spent enough time watching cars he could tell I was going over. Some of these cars do nothing but assigned traffic details. They get to know an approximation, and they can tell the speeds in their assigned wards or jurisdictions. It becomes their job.

I didn't get a ticket, but thats not the point. The point is yes...at least in this state, a visual estimation is as good as any other.

Pheonix 03-07-2010 01:31 PM

And to the guy (I think Sig111) who had the camera ticket for turning right on red...it wasn't that you turned right on red...it was that you failed to come to a complete stop, and made a rolling turn. Judging from the pics, it appears you also did it from the second to right hand lane, and not the turning lane itself.

Edit: Disregard the last. I didn't notice the curb straight ahead in your lane. I haven't seen many two-lane right turn roads.

Togo 03-07-2010 01:49 PM

Man I got pulled over a few times.

Got nabbed once for a 75 in a 30. It was midnight and I was riding up A1A to meet up with some buddies. The cop wasn't able to clock me as I flew by but he came up from behind me and paced me at 51. I saw him coming so I slowed down to a more reasonable speeding speed. He rode too and let me off with a warning.

Got clocked once for 51 in a 30, on A1A, in my buddies car at like 3AM. Got off with a "failure to observe a traffic device".

Got pulled over for improper eye protection once. I had my visor up and no sun glasses on. Got a ticket for that one.

Got pulled over for riding with my brights on at night. I flat out told the cop, I don't turn them off at night because I've been run off the road too many times by cars that don't see me. I said I'd rather be alive with his ticket then dead without his ticket. He just let me go.

I got pulled over for making a right turn at an intersection that was "no turns". I was in a unfamiliar town. The cop just said, if you actually have a motorcycle endorsement I'll just let you go. I do, and he did.

Got pulled over on A1A, again, by a cop who felt that my plate wasn't visible in it's present location, tucked under my tail. It is plenty visible however. He couldn't see it because he was riding my ass so close with his fuckin SUV. I brake checked him... hahaha.. then he lit me up. No ticket.

Got pulled over by a Sherif once on 95 South because I lit it up on the on ramp. I apparently blew by him at a high rate of speed (140MPH). He said he got me at 90MPH in a 70MPH. It took him a while to come up behind me due to traffic. I didn't even know I blew by him till he told me afterwards but when I saw him coming up behind me I knew he was there for me. I toyed with him a little though. I don't like to ride next to tractor trailers on the highway so when I get to one I wait until the car in front of my has fully passed the truck before I'll begin to pass it. So I just kind of hang back until it's clear, once the car in front of my has passed the truck, I usually gun it to dart by the truck as quick as possible. Well the Sherif was behind me and we were cruising at 80MPH until I passed the truck which got me up to around 100MPH or so. Either way.. the Sherif let me off. Not even a written warning. He just ran my info and then let me go.

I think this might be the last time but I left my house once, having a bad day already, and I gunned it in 1st, hit about 70MPH (30MPH Zone) and a Sherif nabbed me. He was running laser from his driveway lol. Let me off with a "failure to observe traffic device".

I think thats about all of them.

Togo 03-07-2010 01:51 PM

OH there was another time.. these two cars were redneck road blocking me and I was late for work. It was like 6AM. When a small hole finally opened up so that I could get around them, I took it and darted past them, I hit about 70 (40MPH zone) and a motorcycle cop was going the other way. He did a u-turn, came up behind me, and got me. No ticket, but I was still late to work. haha

IDZRVIT 03-07-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 432867)
Is that a Canada thing? I know cops can do visual estimations here. Maybe that's a state thing though.

Many, many years ago a friend of mine received a speeding ticket based on the cops 'visual'. He went to court and asked the judge if he could question the cop on his acute ability to estimate speed. Judge said yes. My friend looked at the cop, raised his arm and dropped it as fast as he could. He looked at the cop and asked "How fast was that?" The cop was dumbfounded and the judge sent my friend on his way!

frost 03-07-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 433165)
Many, many years ago a friend of mine received a speeding ticket based on the cops 'visual'. He went to court and asked the judge if he could question the cop on his acute ability to estimate speed. Judge said yes. My friend looked at the cop, raised his arm and dropped it as fast as he could. He looked at the cop and asked "How fast was that?" The cop was dumbfounded and the judge sent my friend on his way!

I'll store that in memory for later use!

ricky bobby 03-07-2010 05:07 PM

:tup:
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 432361)
Without busting balls, what's the benefit of a sports car if it never speeds?

:iagree::iagree::tup::tiphat::driving:

Pharmacist 03-07-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheonix (Post 433014)
Way back when, I got stopped by a radar car who was on another stop as I passed them. He claimed that even though he hadn't laser tagged me, he spent enough time watching cars he could tell I was going over. Some of these cars do nothing but assigned traffic details. They get to know an approximation, and they can tell the speeds in their assigned wards or jurisdictions. It becomes their job.

I didn't get a ticket, but thats not the point. The point is yes...at least in this state, a visual estimation is as good as any other.

but even if you get a ticket, you can still get the pig to court and if your paralegal is halfway competent he should easily cast doubt on the estimated speed and the cop's "superman eyes" thing. i'd imagine unless he acutally used instrumentation to measure your real speed, this "i thought he was going too fast because I can sense it and i have very good vision" thing won't convince a judge.

blue660r01 03-07-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 432563)
perhaps he let you go because he didnt manage to get a reading on his radar, or maybe the radar was off. if either of that happened, he technically cannot write a ticket

A lot of cops now are qualified to judge how fast a car is going so they could still give you a ticket if they want.

Pharmacist 03-07-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 433268)
A lot of cops now are qualified to judge how fast a car is going so they could still give you a ticket if they want.

would it hold up in court? in the absence of any physical evidence of speeding, would a judge still enter a conviction because of a cop's "gut feeling"? can't you just dispute the accuracy of the cop's superman senses for the judge?

Zsteve 03-07-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 433278)
would it hold up in court? in the absence of any physical evidence of speeding, would a judge still enter a conviction because of a cop's "gut feeling"? can't you just dispute the accuracy of the cop's superman senses for the judge?

So are the cops certified for speed judgeing like their equipement? Dont think so, no one can acurately judge a vehicles speed all the time.

AMCPacer 03-07-2010 09:29 PM

Anyone ever use Trapster and found it to be useful? I downloaded it to my iPhone a couple of days ago, and I'm trying it out. I guess it may be useful in unfamiliar areas to warn you of known speedtraps/red light cameras.

blue660r01 03-07-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 433287)
So are the cops certified for speed judgeing like their equipement? Dont think so, no one can acurately judge a vehicles speed all the time.

I bet if you drive by me I could get within 2mph.. Like most officers could.

Pharmacist 03-07-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 433607)
I bet if you drive by me I could get within 2mph.. Like most officers could.

yeah, you have superman senses :rolleyes: now why don't you put your talent to good use, like actually fighting real crime :rolleyes:

blue660r01 03-07-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 433689)
yeah, you have superman senses :rolleyes: now why don't you put your talent to good use, like actually fighting real crime :rolleyes:

You DO realize a lot of officers are QUALIFIED to do this right? As in there is training and they DO get used to judging? Stop being so biased for once dude you are pathetic.

I dont care about speeding by the way. Its just a fact I am stating.

Pharmacist 03-07-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 433692)
You DO realize a lot of officers are QUALIFIED to do this right? As in there is training and they DO get used to judging? Stop being so biased for once dude you are pathetic.

I dont care about speeding by the way. Its just a fact I am stating.

yeah, pigs are calibrated to measure speed accurately with their super bionic eyes :bowrofl::inoutroflpuke:

i can't wait till one of your "qualified" pigs gives me a speeding ticket based on his "judgement" and the subsequent butt reaming my paralegals will give him in court :bowrofl::inoutroflpuke:

now :gtfo2:

blue660r01 03-07-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 433700)
yeah, pigs are calibrated to measure speed accurately with their super bionic eyes :bowrofl::inoutroflpuke:

i can't wait till one of your "qualified" pigs gives me a speeding ticket based on his "judgement" and the subsequent butt reaming my paralegals will give him in court :bowrofl::inoutroflpuke:

now :gtfo2:



You are just so tough man

Little do you know...What you get in NYC stands.

Pharmacist 03-07-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 433703)
You are just so tough man

Little do you know...What you get in NYC stands.

i don't understand the last sentence or what it means, but if you check my profile you know i don't live in nyc. over here, only speed measured by radar or by a cruiser actually tailgating the car and matching speeds and then using the cruiser's speedometer to determine the speeding offence. so in nyc, they dont allow people to dispute traffic tickets in court or what?

blue660r01 03-07-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 433717)
i don't understand the last sentence or what it means, but if you check my profile you know i don't live in nyc. over here, only speed measured by radar or by a cruiser actually tailgating the car and matching speeds and then using the cruiser's speedometer to determine the speeding offence. so in nyc, they dont allow people to dispute traffic tickets in court or what?

You said one of the "pigs" therefore I assume you mean here. Believe me if you get a ticket here it stands. Even if police officers end up somehow getting tickets here....it stands.


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