Convince me to get a Nismo 370z.
 

So I've been in the market for a 370z for a while and I keep getting torn between a base 370z with the sport package or the Nismo Z. I can't seem to justify the price difference between the models, especially when it's just a few bolt-on upgrades.

i seriously considered the nismo.

The reason I talked myself out of it was simply because this is my daily driver. If I wanted a purely track car MAYBE i would change my mind.

that said I bought a base with sport package and upgraded the stereo system myself

It seems like you already know what the best choice is.

Main factor I would consider is transmission. Sync-rev is great.

It depends on what you want. The Nismo is much stiffer and rough on the roads ( so I hear) and the base or touring is more street. Maybe a base model would be just as good for you and later get some upgrades ; HFC, exhaust, headers, and intakes. JUST AS GOOD if not better

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I did too, that was the car that made me trade my 350Z. However the only dealer in the area that have it was an a$$hole. So I got a base with Sport Pkg. from another dealer and I'm pretty happy! :tup:

Base with sport is faster than a Nismo. If that's not convincing enough, then I don't know what is. Unless you want to spend money on Nismo stitching and garish front and rear fascias...then get a Nismo.

I had both of my seats custom done in leather with the Z logo for $1k. Seems like a better deal.

Test drive both, see if you think it's worth it. IM0 performance is very close, I would say go with the Nismo if you prefer the looks, body kit, wheels, wing, etc.

i went for the nismo for the same reason (it's my daily driver too) .

the way i see it: people drive trucks, vans, SUV, sedans, etc. to work -- i drive a track car to work :)

Think you misinterpreted what he said.

nope, i got what he said but i didn't communicate well in that post.

he didn't go for the nismo because he didn't want a track car as a daily driver. i, on the hand, went for the nismo because i wanted a track car as a daily driver.

LMAO YESss. love it

Get the sports pack and go on an awesome holiday with the savings from the nismo. =)

had the same dilemma, but ended up getting base with sports package.....

for one thing, if you are considering about SC or TT, then the base would be more cost-effective....

in terms of performance, the nismo and base are not much different - at least the price difference is not justifiable...............

No, get the Z touring + sport

not even going to read the thread and no i won't convince you to buy the nismo because the only people who buy the nismo are people who either: are mistaken that it is better, have absolutely no plans to modify it as it is already good enough in they're minds(not the person who should be buying a nismo), people who are baller and enjoy lighting they're cigarettes with $50 bills and don't care that a sport+base can have a better interior/system/power/handling with less money when modified, people willing to pay double what the bodykit costs from a dealer to have it because they like it so much, or dicks that just wan't to say that they're car is a fricken nismo. No offense to anyone that owns a nismo a couple of you guys are ok.

*you wanted a car that PRETENDS it's a track car" you have the exact same brakes a sports package, your car handles no better than a sports package, with only $1000 dolars a guy with a sports package car can have more power than you, and your car comes riced out from the factory?

i think it's preference so no one should have to convince you. i was either going to get the sport or nismo. i went with the nismo and currently changing out the wheels with no regrets. quite a few people don't agree with that but hey it's my car. i also think the touring package is the "nismo" of interiors because there is so much better in the aftermarket as far as sound and navi, and i'm not a fan of leather. and no i don't light cigarettes with $50 bills that's insane. twenties and fives work just as well. ;)

Hey, look who it is - "Mr. I Search for 'NISMO' once a week and post in that thread only"

OP - if you want to modify the car to perform any better than stock, stick with the base/sport.

On the other hand, if you absolutely want to stay stock and have a lot of extra money to blow on almost nothing at all, go ahead and get the Nismo 370. You'll pick up the eternal respect of fanboi's like xfrgtr lol.

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Dont. It is too much, looks too rice, and all in all is not worth it!

Care to enlighten us as to what exactly makes a base with sport faster than a Nismo. I respect a lot of the opinions that say a Nismo may not be as good a value as a base/sport but let's not get carried away.

actually depending on who did the testing the nismo either handles marginaly better, the same, or marginally worse than a sport package. when it comes to suspension you scarifice ride quality with the nismo being stiffer yet track testing has shown there is almost no gain at all in actual performance. The car has a hair more power than a sport and yet it still runs nearly identical times on the track. The only place a nismo really beats a sport is in a straight line in which case u should have bought a camaro or a base+sport+HFC's and exhaust. You do not have a hardcore race tuned machine, you have a riced up sports package with a shatty stereo. Look at the difference between a regular 350z and a nismo 350z it makes the nismo 370 look like a fricken rip off for 39k plus change you should be significantly faster than my 8,000 dollar less car, I spent 4,000 so far in the aftermarket and i have a better stereo, more power, and a faster handling car than someone who paid double what i did for those same upgrades but worse.

Edit: and I am NOT jealous of a nismo because i almost bought one until i realized it really is just a bunch of flash with no real substance for an extra 30% of the price of the car.

Dude, all I asked was for Spearfish to justify his statement. I can go all day without your rants.

sorry if it's rantish but it's justification. All of the magazine tests (as well as others) show no more than a .1G improvement on the skid pad if that I have four or 5 different ones laying around my house if you don't want to read it online. Identical part numbers on the brakes and pads unless you opt for the nismo race compound (note car and driver drove one into a wall thanks to the nismo not being equipped with upgraded pads) so the brakes are the exact same as the sport. and many forum members have posted up audio and exhaust threads that have more power and better quality. For the price of a nismo you could even have a KW set of coilovers added then there would be no comparison.

Edit: just read the one xfrgtr posted when road and track did the nismo the results go up and down between the two for the whole test.

For every magazine you talk about showing marginal-to-no gains, you'll have someone reply with, "Oh, but it wasnt broken in yet!" - whatever.

This could be solved by buying the Roadster!

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yeah. that's what i wanted.

i didn't buy the nismo to race other cars. i bought the car because it looked and ride like a track car. whether it was faster than the base 370z did not concern me.

when i was growing up, my dream car was the porsche 911 turbo carrera. to me, the nismo looks very close to the 911 turbo carrera with the large rear wing and wide body style.

actually i have to disagree on the touring too. I wouldn't use/don't care about the mirror and the aluminum pedals/trim, the seats are nice but i can just have mine recovered, and i would just put in my own system that was superior to the BLOSE system. On that note have you ever tried to re-wire a bose car? It isn't fun and involves taking half the car apart and cutting the hell out of your harness. Base is the way to go and it is still nicer than a touring 350z. The interior is more of an opinion thing though as the price on the factory stuff while inflated isn't totally nismo levels of overpriced.

you got that right i have had my car mistaken for a porche before too. i still want to buy an old 911 turbo to have as my old nice car with the 370 as my "oh shat look at that beast" car and whatever gets over 35mpg as my daily breadwinner.

you know, a few years ago, i thought about buying a used turbo carrera or a testarossa but i don't think those cars are as easy/fun to drive like a modern sports car: they don't have power steering and a close ratio gear box. furthermore, the maintenance costs for those cars are going to be much higher.

some people say the nismo might be too raw for daily driving but its power steering and clutch operation are both lighter than my 2005 mercedes c320 sport sedan.

So how come you don't make the same kind of personal slams against Touring owners that you do Nismo owners? That's my beef with you, you make it very personal and then say something like "NO OFFENSE TO NISMO OWNERS". Some of you non-Nismo guys are so vocal I start to think you regret not buying one and are trying to make yourselves feel better with all of your arguments. As I said, I agree with the Nismo not being the best value, but there are other intangibles I would never be able to convince you of so I won't bother. Let's all just try to stick to facts and leave any personal attacks out of it. Geez, it's basically the same car for all intents and purposes and this is supposed to be a forum of enthusiasts who share the same interests.

To the OP, if you're looking for the best value, I agree that the Base/Sport is the best bang for the buck. But I will also say that sometimes you have to go with your gut over your brain. Do what you think is right for you. That's all that matters.

Haven't seen this mentioned yet - and it is maybe relevant. You could do a ton of work to a base+ with the money saved, but nissan would find a way to void your warranty in the event that something goes wrong. And, I have found, something always tends to go wrong sooner or later.

I have to agree on all accounts with the poster above me, the base+ is definitely a better value, and definitely can be better/more cost efficient if you plan on modding your car. But hell, its your car, get what YOU want.

I don't post much on these boards, but I do read a decent amount. That being said, there is WAY to much **** measuring going on with these nismo vs. base+ debates. Who CARES? They are practically the same car, and we are all enthsiests of this car anyway...why does someone else car if I paid more for my car than they would have paid?

because the touring is a viable option that is only slightly overpriced and does offer a large upgrade in comparison to the base. most people that own a Z don't really care about the radio so long as it sounds good which the bose does, while there are some who need more and add amps and subs. The touring has stuff i would never use but still adds value.

In contrast the NISMO package costs about 3 times what the parts are worth, and for a package marketed as a hardcore track machine it flat out fails. If i gave them grades the touring package would receive a b+ nice features and it is very much of what a touring package typically consists of and the price point is right. The only reason i didn't get it is because i knew that for me the stereo wasn't good enough and they cost twice as much for labor to change out and are a pain to swap. The nismo recieves a D- to an F because it doesn't meet most track guys expectations of a nismo (you could track a nismo 350z out of the box). to me if it were priced 4k less i might have considered it. If they included an oil cooler as well as doing a better job on the suspension to where there was at least a half G improvement over the sport, as well as including more of the touring options it might be worth what they charge.

And like i said some nismo guys are ok but i have talked to more than one that have seriously handed me the "but my cars a NISMO" line. You may not be a **** but you better damn well expect that there are guys who are. There are a lot of NISMO owners who still can't accept that they don't own the sport cars on the track (I can't blame you because you did pay for it to be able to do that) and it always causes arguements like this and when we post up proof it either gets shucked off hence bobo's post about the break in period which was used to discredit 2 different articles and it's totally BS, or you just say we are jealous and regret buying our cars and we're just being ornery when the thread is about trying to save someone from buying the NISMO thinking it has magic track speed.

Agreed. Some of you guys are ridiculous. (nismo bashers)

the pleasant surprise for me came when i got the new insurance bill for the nismo. it was much lower than i had expected. i think the insurance company charges the same for both cars :)