Per Nissan's website the Nismo weights 3300 and the base Z weights 3232 which is 68 pounds.

Glad it was the nissan website and not some post somewhere :icon17:

I thought it was less so I checked, but still not sure where the added weight really comes in. The body kit?

I probably added weight with all the paint. HAHAAHA

Regardless of the weight, numbered ANYTHING typically helps on resale but lets face it, may recover 20-30% of the upcharge (if that).

I still think there's a little too much focus on weight. If we're talking hundreds upon hundreds of lbs then fine but 60 or so? That wouldnt of stopped me, I dig it either way but if I had it to do over again I probably would of bought the more comfortable touring model and modded that one up. All good though :)

Exactly, if it was 3200 for the base and 3500 for the Nismo there would be problems. The one thing I wish they carried over from the 350z Nismo was the seemed welding.

I'm still a little new to the import scene. Seamed welding? Can you give me the 2 second version? Curious to how that helped and why they didnt carry it over??

Seam welding to stiffen the chassis:

Though the body of the 2007 Nissan Nismo 350Z was seam-welded like that of a racing car, the 370's only additional structural enhancement is a different front strut-tower brace. "This car's stock body is stiff enough to meet the additional demands placed on it by the Nismo hardware," says Nathaniel Mason, senior manager of product planning in Nissan's Specialty Vehicles division.

68 pounds does not seem like much, but at the track a tenth of a second can make a difference between winning and losing. Horsepower to weight ratio is important, but it still comes down to driver skill most of the time.

My approach to the Base/Sport over the Nismo reminds me of when I purchased a 5.0 Mustang in the late 80's. I chose the lighter, sleeper looking LX version over the heavier, more aggressive looking GT. Both cars were great drag strip cars and the competitive banter between the two camps were always fun.

And here we are over twenty years later with a similar situation. I have total respect for all 370Z versions and their owners, unless you have a color other than Pearl White and chose a CBE other than Stillen! :)

I have a question that kinda close to this so here it goes .. A 350Z NISMO vs a 370 base with Sport package .. My only question is if I buy a used NISMO do you think it has been drove harder than a regular Z ..

Absolutely, I think when you buy a NISMO yoiu are definitely going to drive it hard...that is why I wouldn't buy one used..

I think any of these cars have a good chance of being driven hard for what it's worth, nismo or not.

Probably the aluminum brackets and such in the front to support the longer nose. The spoiler too.

The wheels are probably the same or maybe even lighter than the Sports. Both ultra light Rays, but less metal on the NISMOs.

Back to the original request.

I bought a Base/Sport 370 early 09. I'm a collector of Z's and I do drive my cars. So my purchases are long term. I keep the miles low and the cars like new. Over time you can get you money back and more. A lot of people mod their cars for no other reason but just to mod. It makes the car special for them. The NISMO for me is just that. It comes out of the box with the mod's installed. It's a collectors car. Special edition and with its own serial number. Long term you can't go wrong. I bought my NISMO for about what the MSRP was on the Base/Sport that they were selling for in early 09. But I did take a small hit when I switched to a NISMO. So if you have NISMO on the mind buy it first. If this car is going to be a daily driven car, and you're going to put a lot of miles on it and only keep it for a few years, don't buy it. That's the problem with nice cars today, they are a horrible investment short term. I'm of the mindset that you drive a beater car to work and save your good cars for pleasure driving. Now I am older guy and a young person can't see this yet but will some day. I understand sometimes you must drive to impress. A NISMO will impress. One other thing, no warranty issues, which you might have if you buy and mod a BASE/Sport.

i bought the nismo for daily driving.
the way i see it, the cost of a new nismo is less than the depreciated value of a porsche carrera after 5 years, so I am not worried :)

Gentlemen and Ladies,

Who cares about weight, speed, etc. What I don't understand is that we all love the 370 so why are we bashing our brothers and sisters for their choice in one model or another. That's like saying that anyone who buys a Blue car is an ***. When I purchased my car I didn't do all this research and if I had it wouldn't have changed my mind. I saw the Nismo, loved it and bought it. Look there are a lot of people that would say that $29k for a 370z base is stupid and they would include all the other derogatory statements made in this thread. And that could be said about a Porsche GT3 that costs 3 times a 370. What about a Ferrari 599, is this person a **** because they didn't TT a 370 for a fraction of the price.

NO. I would say that we buy what we like and lets leave it at that and respect each other for our choice of one of the best sports cars made for under $100k.

:confused: Lots of people

Exactly, and we are not bashing the Nismo but merely talking about different aspects of it in which people might be interested in when buying their car.

why???

Seriously? This almost seems like a joke? Why wouldn't people be concerned about weight and speed? What other factors do people look for when buying a sports car? :shakes head:

Fun

And how much fun would it be if it were heavy and slow? Weight and speed is what causes that mate.

For the record, I'm with you on not brand bashing, and for the most part, people are being respectful and sticking to the facts, but to say "who cares about weight and speed?" :icon08:

I'm talking about the differences between a base with sport with some bolt ons a the stock Nismo. Yes the base would be faster but marginally.

I respect you wanting to defend your nismo, so I'm not gonna push the issue. I just know weight and speed are important to many people here. Cheers with the car. All Zs and Gs are winners in my book :tiphat:

Thank you. That's the way we should be looking at this and not taking it personally or pushing an agenda. :icon17:

I liked the Nismo when I first laid eyes on it. It looks a lot better than the Nismo 350, IMHO. I'm sure if I were to get into a Nismo 370, it would beat the pants off my 350. I've done some things to my Z to make it lighter and faster for tracking, so I admit that I'm one of those that look at a sports car for more than just fun (even though that's a good reason).

Now where's the beer? We need more of it to continue this discussion. :D

For me, it was three things;

1) The NISMO appearance (sorry, but I do not like the fanged front nose), don't like the lack of rear light in the 370z (non-Nismo). It also gets special forged wheels that I love the look of (a first for me...having not liked other factory Z wheels that much).

2) Factory-package. No warranty issue after changing bumper, exhaust, shocks/springs, etc. Insurance would be higher for me on a 370z Touring w/ Sport modded Z as I'd have to call-out (with receipts) each mod to my insurance agent. I've done this before...it's a PITA.

3) And finally...I liked the limited-edition idea. Knowing that Nissan produced fewer of these makes the car a bit special. It means a tad more to me given I met the Autech guys in Japan before the car was produced.

I don't care that it cost more...or is "only" .02 seconds faster than a 370z Sport on a track.

I modded the hell out of my Z32s and probably have six figures in receipts between the three of them. I'd do the same to a Z34 if it weren't the Nismo to get 90% of what Nissan provided me as "Stock".

Thanks for the reminder! :tiphat: Off to the fridge for more Shiner! :yum:

I got my reason for ya! :) The Nismo body treatment is what did it for me. So much more aggressive than the standard 370Z. The only thing I don't like (and not really that much) is the lack of comfort/convenience features. No Nav, auto dimming mirror, heat seats.....oh wait...I am supposed to be talking you INTO the Nismo. :)

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Flashback to a couple pages ago. Quite a bit more to the chassis stiffening then just the under hood strut brace. There's also the suspension, strut bars and the extra chassis stiffening mounts in the front.

just don't forget that the actual chassis of the car is not stiffened in any way other than 2 bars welded to the strut brace, and a couple of often questioned body dampeners.

The struts and sways fall under suspension

That's right, body dampeners, my error. Thanks!

Nope you screwed up. Give up the keys. :shakes head:

WOW! Better be more careful what I write on the board. Harsh penalties for mistakes :)

actually, imo the less nismo buyers there are, the better for us. our cars will be more rare :)

Someone want to stick a fork in it? I think this threads is Done!!!

I'm your typical "Z" fan. I've owned several Z's in the past. I still have a 70 & 71 240z. I tried to get into a 350z, but I needed a four seater at the time. I had my eyes on a base model with the sport package, but I got $5,000 off MSRP on the NISMO. That closed the gap for me. In addition, I didn't plan on doing any aftermarket modifications they might void my warranty. So the NISMO was the best option for me.

I'm home again with my Z.

There are a lot of mods you can do that won't void your warranty. Intake and Exhaust are the most obvious. When you start doing Pulleys or Headers or an ECU then you're getting somewhat close to that "iffy" area.

It all comes down to the dealer being able to prove that your mod is what broke the car.