How to shift faster?!?!?!

Supragtsxr · 01-16-2010, 06:24 AM

Hey guys,

EDIT: Initial post was poor example. This thread is a focus on how the RPMs hang there for a bit after disengaging the cluth. It seems to take forever for the RPMs to fall fast enough to engage the next gear smoothly. This only seems to happen when the SRM is on. Any tips on upshifting to the next gear quicker with the SRM on?

mick · 01-16-2010, 07:06 AM

why would you want the rpm to drop?

i switched the synchro rev matching on so the rpm would be the same at each shift point

spearfish25 · 01-16-2010, 07:29 AM

It sounds like you're making an uncomplicated matter more complicated. If you're smooth with your clutch, you can shift as quickly as you want at any RPM. I guarantee the RPMs will fall to the next gear's range faster than you can shift. You don't have to pause while shifting to match RPM.

Tyrell Tyson · 01-16-2010, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

It sounds like you're making an uncomplicated matter more complicated. If you're smooth with your clutch, you can shift as quickly as you want at any RPM. I guarantee the RPMs will fall to the next gear's range faster than you can shift. You don't have to pause while shifting to match RPM.

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MeetJoeAsian · 01-16-2010, 08:51 AM

OMG, why would you let your RPM drop before you shift? Hell, I don't even press my clutch all the way in normal driving when I clutch...I just press it to where it's enuf to shift smoothly and then changed gear....if anything, I may keep my foot on the acceleration pedal a millisecond longer just to keep the RPM up when I shift...

G37Sam · 01-16-2010, 09:27 AM

Why do you want to shift faster when you're shifting at 3k anyways? And why are you waiting till the revs drop to 1.5k!!! Oh my!

Should've bought an AT mate

6spd · 01-16-2010, 09:42 AM

dont forget throttle. its just as important to a shift as the clutch. you need to be compensating for the load of reconnection between trans and engine. if you let the clutch completely out AND THEN give it throttle, it will be an unsatisfying shift, but if you are on the throttle the appropriate amount just before the clutch re-engages, you will have a smooth/faster shift no matter what the rpm.

m4a1mustang · 01-16-2010, 09:48 AM

I am increasingly worried about the future of the car guy.
Seems like we are a dying breed fellas.

6spd · 01-16-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I am increasingly worried about the future of the car guy.
Seems like we are a dying breed fellas.

i can't help but agree unfortunately

SgtGoldy · 01-16-2010, 10:04 AM

*sigh*

The breed slowly withers away and we are left with.. Supragtsxr

lol jsut burning you kid... but u should have never bought a manual. I understand everyone learns at sum point, but that is not meant for a new Z where your not gonna try to "speed shift" at 3k

6spd · 01-16-2010, 10:05 AM

we can all tell where this thread is going.

SgtGoldy · 01-16-2010, 10:07 AM

i read his post again and hated myself for it....

antennahead · 01-16-2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I am increasingly worried about the future of the car guy.
Seems like we are a dying breed fellas.

Society is trying to turn us into "green car guys"

John

PlazmaStrike · 01-16-2010, 01:24 PM

Just a question. Since Im more used to riding a manual motorcycle. When I shift on my bike, I apply a little throttle while releasing the clutch to smooth out the shift and prevent engine braking/jerking, but when driving a stick and i try this it jerks even more than if i didn't apply any throttle at all. am i doing something wrong? don't flame me for being a noob

m4a1mustang · 01-16-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlazmaStrike

Just a question. Since Im more used to riding a manual motorcycle. When I shift on my bike, I apply a little throttle while releasing the clutch to smooth out the shift and prevent engine braking/jerking, but when driving a stick and i try this it jerks even more than if i didn't apply any throttle at all. don't flame me for being a noob

I'll flame you because that was a statement... not a question.

All I have to say is use your head and practice. If you keep a level head and use common sense while learning to properly operate your manual transmission, the worst damage you will do is reduce the life of your clutch.

01-16-2010, 06:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Supragtsxr Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 81 Drives: '09 Black Base+Sport Rep Power: 15	How to shift faster?!?!?! Hey guys, EDIT: Initial post was poor example. This thread is a focus on how the RPMs hang there for a bit after disengaging the cluth. It seems to take forever for the RPMs to fall fast enough to engage the next gear smoothly. This only seems to happen when the SRM is on. Any tips on upshifting to the next gear quicker with the SRM on? Last edited by Supragtsxr; 01-16-2010 at 07:47 PM.

01-16-2010, 07:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	It sounds like you're making an uncomplicated matter more complicated. If you're smooth with your clutch, you can shift as quickly as you want at any RPM. I guarantee the RPMs will fall to the next gear's range faster than you can shift. You don't have to pause while shifting to match RPM. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

01-16-2010, 08:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
MeetJoeAsian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 342 Drives: 350Z to G35c to 370Z Rep Power: 15	OMG, why would you let your RPM drop before you shift? Hell, I don't even press my clutch all the way in normal driving when I clutch...I just press it to where it's enuf to shift smoothly and then changed gear....if anything, I may keep my foot on the acceleration pedal a millisecond longer just to keep the RPM up when I shift... __________________ http://facebook.com/meetjoeasian

01-16-2010, 09:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	Why do you want to shift faster when you're shifting at 3k anyways? And why are you waiting till the revs drop to 1.5k!!! Oh my! Should've bought an AT mate __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

01-16-2010, 09:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	dont forget throttle. its just as important to a shift as the clutch. you need to be compensating for the load of reconnection between trans and engine. if you let the clutch completely out AND THEN give it throttle, it will be an unsatisfying shift, but if you are on the throttle the appropriate amount just before the clutch re-engages, you will have a smooth/faster shift no matter what the rpm. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

01-16-2010, 07:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
mick Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 903 Drives: Used to drive a 370z Rep Power: 16	why would you want the rpm to drop? i switched the synchro rev matching on so the rpm would be the same at each shift point

01-16-2010, 09:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I am increasingly worried about the future of the car guy. Seems like we are a dying breed fellas. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-16-2010, 10:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	*sigh* The breed slowly withers away and we are left with.. Supragtsxr lol jsut burning you kid... but u should have never bought a manual. I understand everyone learns at sum point, but that is not meant for a new Z where your not gonna try to "speed shift" at 3k __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo Last edited by SgtGoldy; 01-16-2010 at 10:07 AM.

01-16-2010, 10:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	we can all tell where this thread is going. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

01-16-2010, 10:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
SgtGoldy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,503 Drives: C63 AMG - LSD Rep Power: 650	i read his post again and hated myself for it.... __________________ C63 AMG LSD - Straight Pipe - EuroCharge v5 - Vossen CV7 - IG: @SuperFastYo

01-16-2010, 01:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
PlazmaStrike Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 42 Drives: YZFR1 RSX 370z Nismo Rep Power: 15	Just a question. Since Im more used to riding a manual motorcycle. When I shift on my bike, I apply a little throttle while releasing the clutch to smooth out the shift and prevent engine braking/jerking, but when driving a stick and i try this it jerks even more than if i didn't apply any throttle at all. am i doing something wrong? don't flame me for being a noob

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