370Z or Boxster?

MightyBobo · 01-12-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

But the question is, will the Cayman have better quality than Z, if you strip it down to $30K? I doubt it.

What kind of a statement is that? Jesus...

Zsteve · 01-12-2010, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

What kind of a statement is that? Jesus...

Really. Porsche doesnt want their car at that value as they are looking for a specific type of person to drive their cars. They dont want their cars modded to the hilt and featuring in Fast and Furious, which is why Porsche stays with the same design for the most part. So if you asked that question then you should ask this one too. What would the Z cost if you brought it up to all the top quality things Posrce has in their cars? If you add DSG, FI and AWD to the Z you are looking at the same price that alot of other cars are costing, probably around $45K. Cars are made for certain types of people in mind and they all do good at achievieng those goals.

WICKED_GRIN · 01-12-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Really. Porsche doesnt want their car at that value as they are looking for a specific type of person to drive their cars. They dont want their cars modded to the hilt and featuring in Fast and Furious, which is why Porsche stays with the same design for the most part. So if you asked that question then you should ask this one too. What would the Z cost if you brought it up to all the top quality things Posrce has in their cars? If you add DSG, FI and AWD to the Z you are looking at the same price that alot of other cars are costing, probably around $45K. Cars are made for certain types of people in mind and they all do good at achievieng those goals.

Porsche is building a “baby” Boxster that will be priced very close to the 370Z.

zmyride · 01-12-2010, 08:22 PM

To me, a Boxster is a poorman's Porsche.

Aesthetically(spelling) , it's ugly.

I'd take Z over Boxster anytime. In fact, if i see a Boxster on the road, i would not respect it nor the driver.

I would take CaymanS over Z, however. But then, Cayman is no cheap car.

MightyBobo · 01-12-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zmyride

To me, a Boxster is a poorman's Porsche.

Aesthetically(spelling) , it's ugly.

I'd take Z over Boxster anytime. In fact, if i see a Boxster on the road, i would not respect it nor the driver.

I would take CaymanS over Z, however. But then, Cayman is no cheap car.

The Cayman barely costs more than the Boxster really...base MSRP on the Cayman is only about $4000 more than the base Boxster...and the Boxster Spyder is about the same price as the Cayman S.

You aren't one of those, "If its not a 911 or more expensive, its not a true Porsche" guys, are you? Because I have news for you on that whole "rear-engine layout" junk...

KillerBee370 · 01-12-2010, 09:26 PM

Having owned (wifes car) and driven a Boxster for a number of years, I can give a simple point by point opinion of each.

Boxster:
Pros--
- Great fair weather car (can't beat a convertible with the sun on your face).. however the 370z has this covered now as well.
- Surprisingly comfortable on longer trips
- Trunk space is a bit better than expected and for those really large items, you can always drop the top and use the passenger side to get that coatrack home

- Superb handling in stock form.
- Nice features, quality feel.

Cons--
- Quick but runs outta steam compared to lesser priced cars (370z)
- Chick car styling. Let's face it, this is a chick car. (The Cayman isn't much better as it's called the "Cockster")
- Expensive upkeep.
- For the price you pay, Porsche's ALWAYS need to come equiped with STANDARD things such as Xenon lights, multi-disc CD players, etc. They do not.
- Did I mention it's a chick car? The only thing a guy could drive that looks more pathetic is a VW Beetle.

370z:
Pros--
- Interior styling and quality is on par or better than that of the Boxster (well it is with my touring package anyway)
- More powaa!!
- I've seen women driving them and it's sexy but it's not a "chicks car" like the Boxster.
- Lower maintenence costs.
- Lot's more pro's...

Cons--
- Small trunk space. It was better in the Boxster.
- Same blind spots as a Boxster with it's top up.

Porsche is a strong company but if I ever get a Porsche again (and I plan to), it will be a GT2 or GT3. Between the Boxster (or even the "Cockster") and a 370z... There's really NO comparison. 370z all the way.

pulpz · 01-19-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

Having owned (wifes car) and driven a Boxster for a number of years, I can give a simple point by point opinion of each.

Boxster:
Pros--
- Great fair weather car (can't beat a convertible with the sun on your face).. however the 370z has this covered now as well.
- Surprisingly comfortable on longer trips
- Trunk space is a bit better than expected and for those really large items, you can always drop the top and use the passenger side to get that coatrack home

- Superb handling in stock form.
- Nice features, quality feel.

Cons--
- Quick but runs outta steam compared to lesser priced cars (370z)
- Chick car styling. Let's face it, this is a chick car. (The Cayman isn't much better as it's called the "Cockster")
- Expensive upkeep.
- For the price you pay, Porsche's ALWAYS need to come equiped with STANDARD things such as Xenon lights, multi-disc CD players, etc. They do not.
- Did I mention it's a chick car? The only thing a guy could drive that looks more pathetic is a VW Beetle.

370z:
Pros--
- Interior styling and quality is on par or better than that of the Boxster (well it is with my touring package anyway)
- More powaa!!
- I've seen women driving them and it's sexy but it's not a "chicks car" like the Boxster.
- Lower maintenence costs.
- Lot's more pro's...

Cons--
- Small trunk space. It was better in the Boxster.
- Same blind spots as a Boxster with it's top up.

Porsche is a strong company but if I ever get a Porsche again (and I plan to), it will be a GT2 or GT3. Between the Boxster (or even the "Cockster") and a 370z... There's really NO comparison. 370z all the way.

I think your assessment is pretty fair - as you've said you've owned them both.

However, I have to disagree with comfort. I test drove a '09 Cayman (not S) the same day I test drove the 370Z. The 370 has a greater seating position latitude than the Boxster/Cayman. I couldn't get the Cayman into a comfortable position for even local driving. I couldn't imagine a long trip.

No upper leg support and and no room for leg extension. My knees were butted against the steering wheel, with the seat in the full back position.

I am 6'2", 230 lb, which is makes me taller than average, but I was surprisingly disappointed, considering this is a German engineered car. But given the platform (short wheel base, and mid-engine) it's an inevitable design constraint.

So as much as I loved driving the cayman, and have always wanted a p car, this alone eliminated it from my consideration.

Furthermore, Its one of the things i really like about the 350/370 as stand out value compared to other sports cars- plenty of leg, hip, and elbow room (more so in the 350, but still very accommodating in the 370). Just wish it had a telescoping steering whee.

One other note - my '09 Acura TSX 6MT accommodates by far the most perfect seating position (for me) I've experienced in any of my 20+ years of driving.

01-12-2010, 08:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
zmyride Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 631 Drives: 10 Black Sports 7AT Rep Power: 17	To me, a Boxster is a poorman's Porsche. Aesthetically(spelling) , it's ugly. I'd take Z over Boxster anytime. In fact, if i see a Boxster on the road, i would not respect it nor the driver. I would take CaymanS over Z, however. But then, Cayman is no cheap car.

01-12-2010, 09:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 52 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 322	Having owned (wifes car) and driven a Boxster for a number of years, I can give a simple point by point opinion of each. Boxster: Pros-- - Great fair weather car (can't beat a convertible with the sun on your face).. however the 370z has this covered now as well. - Surprisingly comfortable on longer trips - Trunk space is a bit better than expected and for those really large items, you can always drop the top and use the passenger side to get that coatrack home - Superb handling in stock form. - Nice features, quality feel. Cons-- - Quick but runs outta steam compared to lesser priced cars (370z) - Chick car styling. Let's face it, this is a chick car. (The Cayman isn't much better as it's called the "Cockster") - Expensive upkeep. - For the price you pay, Porsche's ALWAYS need to come equiped with STANDARD things such as Xenon lights, multi-disc CD players, etc. They do not. - Did I mention it's a chick car? The only thing a guy could drive that looks more pathetic is a VW Beetle. 370z: Pros-- - Interior styling and quality is on par or better than that of the Boxster (well it is with my touring package anyway) - More powaa!! - I've seen women driving them and it's sexy but it's not a "chicks car" like the Boxster. - Lower maintenence costs. - Lot's more pro's... Cons-- - Small trunk space. It was better in the Boxster. - Same blind spots as a Boxster with it's top up. Porsche is a strong company but if I ever get a Porsche again (and I plan to), it will be a GT2 or GT3. Between the Boxster (or even the "Cockster") and a 370z... There's really NO comparison. 370z all the way.