Is anyone having this problem?

mecha1000 · 01-06-2010, 03:32 PM

I did not know what to search under, so i created this thread.

When i turn the steering all the way to the left or the right the tires rub against the fender. I took it to the dealer and they said that this is normal for the 370z. I have the sport package wheels. Is anyone else out there having this problem?

Thank you.

semtex · 01-06-2010, 03:44 PM

Wha???? No that's not normal. I sure don't have that issue, and I haven't heard of anyone else having it either. You're positive they're rubbing the fender? Where exactly are they rubbing?

mecha1000 · 01-06-2010, 03:59 PM

I will pickup the car today and have him let me test drive one of their cars since he told me that he test drove one and it made the same noise.

semtex · 01-06-2010, 04:05 PM

Okay, so you're just going off of noise? No visual indications of contact with the fender?

azn370z · 01-06-2010, 04:14 PM

Don't you mean the tire makes a noise? There is post I believe under scrubbing.

ZKindaGuy · 01-06-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mecha1000

I did not know what to search under, so i created this thread.

When i turn the steering all the way to the left or the right the tires rub against the fender. I took it to the dealer and they said that this is normal for the 370z. I have the sport package wheels. Is anyone else out there having this problem?

Thank you.

YES!!!!! I just noticed that my 370Z started doing it when the weather turned cold (below 35 degrees). In the warm summer weather it wasn't doing it at all. At first I thought it might be the tires as well as it sounds just like oversized tires grinding the wheel wheel plastic. I found absolutely no tread marks in the plastic whatsoever. One usually would find the tread scuffing of the wheel well apron.

Because of NOT finding scuffs I starting to believe it might be the brake caliper beginning to possibly come into contact with the inside surface of the sport wheel spokes due to cold temperature contraction of the aluminum which may cause the spoke to be bowing slightly when turning the wheel either left or right to maximum radius. What makes me suspect that is that there is a kind of rhythm in what you hear as if whatever it is is repeating the same sound. As soon as I begin turning the wheels back toward straight to leave max turning radius the sound stops happening.

I thought I was going crazy but I am so glad someone else is experienceing this as well....the question now becomes what exactly is happing to cause this situation?

mecha1000 · 01-06-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

Don't you mean the tire makes a noise? There is post I believe under scrubbing.

Found the tread and the noise seems to be coming from the tires. I searched for scrubbing.

Thank you guys!!

kevin8086 · 01-11-2011, 06:46 AM

umm i think what you guys are talking about is the sway bar binding when it's cold. it is normal since the sway bar moves and has pressure on it when you turn the wheels and when it's cold the metal shrinks and will cause this noise. it will not be there or be as noticeable during the summer. nothing to worry about.

m4a1mustang · 01-11-2011, 06:55 AM

It's not sway bar bind, it's the tires themselves. Summer tires become extremely hard below 40 degrees and lose almost all of their grip. When you give the car enough wheel the tires are turned but since they are rock hard with no grip they start to skip over the pavement. That's the sound you are hearing.

You have to be really careful if you choose to drive the car in cold temps with the summer tires. Allow at least 15-20 minutes of normal driving to get the tires warm enough to get most of your grip back, and just know that that noise you hear when you turn the wheel hard is normal... it's just a byproduct of using a summer tire outside of the specified temperature range.

Vegitto-kun · 01-11-2011, 12:10 PM

Its normal? I have been having this noise the past month.

everytime I do a turn at the lights I hear it cracking and I can FEEL the cracking coming through the steering wheel. like the wheels are hitting something. hell this even turns off my indicators before I turn my steering wheel the other direction.

m4a1mustang · 01-11-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

Its normal? I have been having this noise the past month.

everytime I do a turn at the lights I hear it cracking and I can FEEL the cracking coming through the steering wheel. like the wheels are hitting something. hell this even turns off my indicators before I turn my steering wheel the other direction.

Yes, it's normal. Like I said, the tires literally skip over the pavement during tight turns when cold.

jpritche · 01-11-2011, 12:53 PM

M4A1 mustang is right. I noticed this a while back, and had a friend stand near the car and actually look. The tire does "skip" across the pavement.

shadoquad · 01-11-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yes, it's normal. Like I said, the tires literally skip over the pavement during tight turns when cold.

If I gun it, even on a dry street, in these temps, my traction control goes NUTS. Didn't have that issue in summer. It has to be the tires.

Vegitto-kun · 01-11-2011, 12:56 PM

odd, I have driven with my megane coupe in the winter before I got the Z and it never did this and that thing had hard *** tires.

m4a1mustang · 01-11-2011, 12:58 PM

Yep, a cold summer tire literally has only 25-40% of the grip as a warm summer tire. Very dangerous first thing in the morning because your panic stopping distances can easily double in really cold weather!

01-06-2010, 03:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
mecha1000 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mount Royal, NJ Posts: 16 Drives: 370Z, Silver, 09 6MT Rep Power: 15	Is anyone having this problem? I did not know what to search under, so i created this thread. When i turn the steering all the way to the left or the right the tires rub against the fender. I took it to the dealer and they said that this is normal for the 370z. I have the sport package wheels. Is anyone else out there having this problem? Thank you.

01-06-2010, 03:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 53 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Wha???? No that's not normal. I sure don't have that issue, and I haven't heard of anyone else having it either. You're positive they're rubbing the fender? Where exactly are they rubbing? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-06-2010, 04:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 53 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Okay, so you're just going off of noise? No visual indications of contact with the fender? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-06-2010, 04:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 489	Don't you mean the tire makes a noise? There is post I believe under scrubbing. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

01-11-2011, 06:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	It's not sway bar bind, it's the tires themselves. Summer tires become extremely hard below 40 degrees and lose almost all of their grip. When you give the car enough wheel the tires are turned but since they are rock hard with no grip they start to skip over the pavement. That's the sound you are hearing. You have to be really careful if you choose to drive the car in cold temps with the summer tires. Allow at least 15-20 minutes of normal driving to get the tires warm enough to get most of your grip back, and just know that that noise you hear when you turn the wheel hard is normal... it's just a byproduct of using a summer tire outside of the specified temperature range. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-06-2010, 03:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
mecha1000 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mount Royal, NJ Posts: 16 Drives: 370Z, Silver, 09 6MT Rep Power: 15	I will pickup the car today and have him let me test drive one of their cars since he told me that he test drove one and it made the same noise.

01-11-2011, 06:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
kevin8086 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Austin Posts: 228 Drives: 09 370Z Sport Rep Power: 14	umm i think what you guys are talking about is the sway bar binding when it's cold. it is normal since the sway bar moves and has pressure on it when you turn the wheels and when it's cold the metal shrinks and will cause this noise. it will not be there or be as noticeable during the summer. nothing to worry about.

01-11-2011, 12:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	Its normal? I have been having this noise the past month. everytime I do a turn at the lights I hear it cracking and I can FEEL the cracking coming through the steering wheel. like the wheels are hitting something. hell this even turns off my indicators before I turn my steering wheel the other direction.

01-11-2011, 12:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
jpritche A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cartersville, Ga Age: 32 Posts: 2,571 Drives: '15 RR, '14 IS250 Rep Power: 30	M4A1 mustang is right. I noticed this a while back, and had a friend stand near the car and actually look. The tire does "skip" across the pavement.

01-11-2011, 12:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	odd, I have driven with my megane coupe in the winter before I got the Z and it never did this and that thing had hard *** tires.

01-11-2011, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yep, a cold summer tire literally has only 25-40% of the grip as a warm summer tire. Very dangerous first thing in the morning because your panic stopping distances can easily double in really cold weather! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!