Where Is The Oil Going??

370Zsteve · 12-31-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

You used a bad word "break in"...

Oil Consumption

spearfish25 · 12-31-2009, 09:48 PM

It became a break-in thread in almost 1 complete page.

6spd · 12-31-2009, 09:56 PM

i havent burned a drop in 2k, and i didnt follow any break in procedure, i just drove it normally like i do every other day in any other car. i think us sitting back and taking it in the *** accepting this oil consumption issue isn't a good thing. believing its a "normal" occurrence just allows manufacturers to take advantage of people ignorance. people need to demand that these cars are built better, for christs sake, these arent worn out engines. 2 qts between oil changes, thats ludicrous!

cab83_750 · 12-31-2009, 10:45 PM

My motor was replaced due to oil consumption. Burnt almost 2 qts per 1000 miles.

Try Google....1 quart may be considered as normal by some auto manufacturer. In any case good luck.

FricFrac · 01-01-2010, 03:58 AM

These are very high compresion engines - we're getting almost 100 HP/liter which was unheard of from a N/A not too long ago. Corvettes normal consumption is up to a liter per 1000 miles. First off the car is still breaking in. Secondly if you are concerned about it get Nissan to do an oil consumption check and they'll tell you if the engine needs replacement.

Its funny if the engine was designed to not burn a drop of oil but wore out right after the warranty expired people would be up in arms. Nissan designs a high performance engine that by design consumes some oil but doesn't blow up and people are still up in arms. You can't have it both ways....

Oh and for the bazillionth person who says "my Honda Civic never burnt a drop of oil" or whatever other car you drove - if it was so freaking awesome WHY DID YOU GET RID OF IT! If you can afford a 370Z surely you can afford an extra quart of oil every other month.....

On another note for those who are interested it seems the VQ engines consume more oil when you are using the engine back presure as a brake (eg coasting down a hill in second with the revs up). Just FYI....

Modshack · 01-01-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Secondly if you are concerned about it get Nissan to do an oil consumption check and they'll tell you if the engine needs replacement.

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...However, they probably won't take this seriously until the 1qt/1000 mile mark... Chances are your burn rate will reduce.

You need to do your own consumption test...Did you check it after the dealer oil change? Assuming it was up to the full mark may not be right. Lets say they shorted you a quart...You're then Adding one more between changes plus the second for the shortage. This would certainly not be out of line. Top it up, note the miles, and keep track. I'd bet your consumption will prove to be less than you think it is..

vipor · 01-01-2010, 11:25 AM

i changed my oil at 3250 to Mobil 1. checked the level at about 5000 and it was still right on the high mark. checked it again a couple days ago at about 6400 miles and it was still right on the high mark.

even the oil that came with my car didn't have much burn off at all. checked right about 2800 before a road trip, needed like 1/4 qt. to put it at the full mark.

DooDooBrown · 01-01-2010, 12:25 PM

Yes, I did follow the break in procedures. Not to the letter, but I did baby the car for a little bit. I have checked the oil when I got it back from the dealership, and it was full at that time. I check it every time (or every other time) I fill up. I generally don't downshift to get the braking effect, unless it is a very steep/long hill. I am going to call up Nissan and ask for an oil consumption test I guess..... I am sorry, but I do not see how a brand new car is burning 4 quarts of oil in less than 10,000 miles. I haven't tore up too many back roads this oil change, and it has really all been highway driving....

TreeSemdyZee · 01-01-2010, 12:50 PM

I'm kind of surprised by all of the comments calling oil usage "normal". Maybe this is a just a Nissan thing that I'm unaware of.
I drove mostly Toyotas up until I bought my 350 3 1/2 years ago and NEVER used oil. The last Toyota that I drove was a Celica GTS with 11.5 to 1 compression and 100 hp per liter. I drove it for 90,000 miles and never put any oil in except during oil changes. With today's technology being what it is, oil use should never be a problem. Maybe I'm just dreaming.

Modshack · 01-01-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

With today's technology being what it is, oil use should never be a problem. Maybe I'm just dreaming.

Nothing is perfect. Every engine, and the drive cycles it is put through by the owners, are different. It is generally a small percentage of any production engines that have an issue. Believe it or not, some Toyotas and Hondas burn oil as well, and many Nissans, like the majority here, burn none..

vipor · 01-01-2010, 02:14 PM

Honda + VTEC = burning oil.

a friend with an RSXS says that if he hits it hard for a month he can lose up to a qt.

coaster · 01-01-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor

Honda + VTEC = burning oil.

a friend with an RSXS says that if he hits it hard for a month he can lose up to a qt.

I agree. All of my past Honda's (NSX/S2000/Civic Si/Integra) burned oil. It must have been the VTEC :-D

PapoZalsa · 01-01-2010, 02:23 PM

I don't think there is any TSB out for the 370Z concerning this oil issue. Before any TSB is out for this, is going to take the customer to take the car to the service department and get it documented. Probabbly even write the Nissan Co. because a lot of dealer are not going to do $hit and ignore the issue.

Modshack · 01-01-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I don't think there is any TSB out for the 370Z concerning this oil issue.

UH.....That could be because there's NOT an issue.....

dad · 01-01-2010, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I don't think there is any TSB out for the 370Z concerning this oil issue. Before any TSB is out for this, is going to take the customer to take the car to the service department and get it documented. Probabbly even write the Nissan Co. because a lot of dealer are not going to do $hit and ignore the issue.

When there are enough complaints, and documentation, to the dealers and Nissan North America, only then will you see a TSB!

12-31-2009, 09:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	It became a break-in thread in almost 1 complete page. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-31-2009, 09:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	i havent burned a drop in 2k, and i didnt follow any break in procedure, i just drove it normally like i do every other day in any other car. i think us sitting back and taking it in the * accepting this oil consumption issue isn't a good thing. believing its a "normal" occurrence just allows manufacturers to take advantage of people ignorance. people need to demand that these cars are built better, for christs sake, these arent worn out engines. 2 qts between oil changes, thats ludicrous! __________________ -Jay-** jonathanjamesphotographer.com

01-01-2010, 03:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
FricFrac A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,481 Drives: 370Z 300ZX 280ZX 240 Rep Power: 228	These are very high compresion engines - we're getting almost 100 HP/liter which was unheard of from a N/A not too long ago. Corvettes normal consumption is up to a liter per 1000 miles. First off the car is still breaking in. Secondly if you are concerned about it get Nissan to do an oil consumption check and they'll tell you if the engine needs replacement. Its funny if the engine was designed to not burn a drop of oil but wore out right after the warranty expired people would be up in arms. Nissan designs a high performance engine that by design consumes some oil but doesn't blow up and people are still up in arms. You can't have it both ways.... Oh and for the bazillionth person who says "my Honda Civic never burnt a drop of oil" or whatever other car you drove - if it was so freaking awesome WHY DID YOU GET RID OF IT! If you can afford a 370Z surely you can afford an extra quart of oil every other month..... On another note for those who are interested it seems the VQ engines consume more oil when you are using the engine back presure as a brake (eg coasting down a hill in second with the revs up). Just FYI.... __________________ '09 370Z - '93 300ZX Vert - '83 280ZX - '83 280ZXT -'81 280ZXT stroker - '72 240Z - Stillen CBE, HFC, G3, Grounding Kit, Sways // Swift Spring // H&R 15mm // 5% Tint // Clear Bra //

01-01-2010, 11:25 AM	#22 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	i changed my oil at 3250 to Mobil 1. checked the level at about 5000 and it was still right on the high mark. checked it again a couple days ago at about 6400 miles and it was still right on the high mark. even the oil that came with my car didn't have much burn off at all. checked right about 2800 before a road trip, needed like 1/4 qt. to put it at the full mark. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

01-01-2010, 02:14 PM	#26 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	Honda + VTEC = burning oil. a friend with an RSXS says that if he hits it hard for a month he can lose up to a qt. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

12-31-2009, 10:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	My motor was replaced due to oil consumption. Burnt almost 2 qts per 1000 miles. Try Google....1 quart may be considered as normal by some auto manufacturer. In any case good luck.

01-01-2010, 12:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 16	Yes, I did follow the break in procedures. Not to the letter, but I did baby the car for a little bit. I have checked the oil when I got it back from the dealership, and it was full at that time. I check it every time (or every other time) I fill up. I generally don't downshift to get the braking effect, unless it is a very steep/long hill. I am going to call up Nissan and ask for an oil consumption test I guess..... I am sorry, but I do not see how a brand new car is burning 4 quarts of oil in less than 10,000 miles. I haven't tore up too many back roads this oil change, and it has really all been highway driving....

01-01-2010, 12:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,883 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	I'm kind of surprised by all of the comments calling oil usage "normal". Maybe this is a just a Nissan thing that I'm unaware of. I drove mostly Toyotas up until I bought my 350 3 1/2 years ago and NEVER used oil. The last Toyota that I drove was a Celica GTS with 11.5 to 1 compression and 100 hp per liter. I drove it for 90,000 miles and never put any oil in except during oil changes. With today's technology being what it is, oil use should never be a problem. Maybe I'm just dreaming.

01-01-2010, 02:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	I don't think there is any TSB out for the 370Z concerning this oil issue. Before any TSB is out for this, is going to take the customer to take the car to the service department and get it documented. Probabbly even write the Nissan Co. because a lot of dealer are not going to do $hit and ignore the issue. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs