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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r I still like my nismo better. The different on weight to HP ratio is only .93 hp with out mod. I will like to see how

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Old 12-23-2017, 01:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I still like my nismo better. The different on weight to HP ratio is only .93 hp
with out mod. I will like to see how reliable is going to be.
True but that’s just paper. Dude it’s an Alfa 4C. We come on here to share and gloat. He did it with panache. The car punches weigh above its weight class...it ain’t no Nissan. Hell just by butt metrics it’s got be a blast!
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This is a review on the 4c


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Oh, question. You drive it yet in city traffic at all? I love my peasant Hyundai, reliable, fast, comfy, tech but 8 gears in city traffic sucks. Always looking around for a gear. I keep it in sport and use the paddles to drive smooth. Pain in the rear (talk about first world problems) but still much better than my 370 six speed (in traffic). Funny my Volvo six speed auto with its 250 tq is PERFECT in normal D mode. 8 speeds just too much.
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I still like my nismo better. The different on weight to HP ratio is only .93 hp
with out mod. I will like to see how reliable is going to be.
The 4C is definitely not for everybody.

I've had several people refer to the Z as a "small car"; that is all relative. For me, even with 100 more horsepower it just felt a little too heavy for my liking. My preference is light-weight ideally paired with a good power to weight ratio. The 4C met those criteria for me perfectly.

On that note, I wasn't trying to imply the 4C was necessarily superior to the Z; I might have kept both could I have afforded it, but I was really captivated by the 4C, felt I could probably swing the deal for one, and got tired of crossing my fingers hoping for a Z35 or new Supra being available anytime soon.


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True but that’s just paper. Dude it’s an Alfa 4C. We come on here to share and gloat. He did it with panache. The car punches weigh above its weight class...it ain’t no Nissan. Hell just by butt metrics it’s got be a blast!


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Oh, question. You drive it yet in city traffic at all? I love my peasant Hyundai, reliable, fast, comfy, tech but 8 gears in city traffic sucks. Always looking around for a gear. I keep it in sport and use the paddles to drive smooth. Pain in the rear (talk about first world problems) but still much better than my 370 six speed (in traffic). Funny my Volvo six speed auto with its 250 tq is PERFECT in normal D mode. 8 speeds just too much.
I've only had it for about a week -- I've hardly driven it at all yet

Gear shifts happen in up to 130 msec, and I've never found insufficient grunt in any given gear (mercifully, only 6 to work with). In traffic I keep it in auto and if the roads are empty/twisty, switch to paddles. My only minor complaint there is that I wish they were on the column rather than the wheel, but it's not a big deal.

I've only driven it a bit in "dynamic" mode, which really ratchets up its responsiveness. Once there you can ramp it up further to "race" mode where all the nannies are canceled. Haven't played with that at all yet.

This review on it pretty much sums up the different modes well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnuNv77rB0Q
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Jordo Congratultions on the new love!

Was also looking for a Lotus Elise for another Toy.

So I may open a thread just like yours from Z to L!

Btw it just befitting to change your Avatar character to this Alf!!!

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Does only the elite club sees pictures of Jordo’s 4C?

How come I dont see it here? 🙁
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Does only the elite club sees pictures of Jordo’s 4C?

How come I dont see it here? 🙁
Naaaaaw man it’s just a really tiny sports car.
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The 4C is definitely not for everybody.
I've had several people refer to the Z as a "small car"; that is all relative. For me, even with 100 more horsepower it just felt a little too heavy for my liking. My preference is light-weight ideally paired with a good power to weight ratio. The 4C met those criteria for me perfectly.

On that note, I wasn't trying to imply the 4C was necessarily superior to the Z;
Heck Jordo,
it could be a purple & pink Yugo for all I care as long as I liked it would be what matters. Just enjoy it because your paying for it & don't worry about any detractors . I happen to think it looks pretty sweet though.
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I, too, think it looks awesome. Though, it's sad to hear that I would, likely, not fit in it considering I'm 6'1 and north of 300lbs.
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I, too, think it looks awesome. Though, it's sad to hear that I would, likely, not fit in it considering I'm 6'1 and north of 300lbs.
Take one for a test drive and see what you think -- I think it's a bit bigger than a MX-5. It's probably in the 86 range or maybe just a hair snugger. Low. but wide as a boat.

Finally took it for a spin in dynamic and race mode -- these allow you to see the psi (1.5 bars max!) oil temp, and in race mode G force in turns.

Oh... it's a fun little car

Every drive, no matter how prosaic, and you are a human-car hybrid. It just commands all of your attention to the act of driving.

This is the most intuitive and engaging vehicle I have ever had the luck to sit in, let alone own.
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Weird -- all my pics aren't showing???

Umm... well, here's a bunch again...















This car gets a lot of positive attention. You step out of it and people have questions for you. They want a tour.

Interestingly, at least for 2015, red and white are more common than black (the launch edition only came in red and white), so this one is a little extra rare. Whatever that means. I love it. It's perfect.

Dynoing will be a PITA. It has to go on one with rollers for the front and rear -- apparently the speed sensors get upset and put the car into limp mode if at high speeds the front wheels aren't moving while the rear one's are.

AWD dynos are harder to find and much more pricey... I'll most likely do it anyway, 'cause I like data.

Swapping out the air filter requires jacking up the car and taking off the rear wheel...

It's also a bit of an adventure to add wiper fluid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a-sRR6ULOY

Still, all worth it. Love this car!
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Bet there is a whole bunch of strange things on the 4C.

Read where there was only 409, 4C's was made. Don't know if that was for the US or world wide.
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Bet there is a whole bunch of strange things on the 4C.

Read where there was only 409, 4C's was made. Don't know if that was for the US or world wide.
I believe there are around 1600 (ninja edit) or so in the entire US. Maybe around ten or so in the whole state of FL. There are NO other Alfas within a 250 mile radius of me, and maybe 5 (on lots, for the most part) within a 500 mile radius, at least for 2015 - 2016 MY.

Yeah, it's got a few oddities (a distinct personality?), but the motor and trans are fantastic -- far less high strung than my 2ZZ SC'd Celica GT-S and much more responsive than the Z.

It's pretty damn close to perfect. Let's just say I think it's perfect for me

Here's my short list of minor complaints:

1. I would like power steering, but my forearms are now used to it (free work out!)

2. I wish the paddles were mounted to the column rather than the wheel and that the gauges and column moved together like it did on the Z. Like the minimal rear visibility, you get used to it.

3. The head unit is pretty terrible. I may actually upgrade that at some point, but overall sound quality is fine and the best sounds come from the engine anyway

4. Pricey to dyno, not many tuning options -- but, really is NOT in need of anything. It comes from Alfa with an extra performance tune that is plenty for a DD. If I never tune it, some part of me will wistfully want to, just because its my nature, but it really doesn't need it at all.

That's it. It's PERFECT. Unless a lack of a clutch pedal is a deal breaker or small cars are disliked it is an absolute, true sports car in every sense of the word. Looks, performance, sound, and wow factor.
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I love it. Good choice.
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I love it. Good choice.
Thanks

I stand corrected tho: there are a little over 1600 in the US

Alfa Romeo 4C US car sales figures

Still, that's a pretty tough-to-find car. Feel really lucky to have snagged one
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