What can I expect?

ZeeBabar · 09-27-2017, 09:12 PM

I bought a used base (but incredible blue) 2017 with 19k miles. It just crossed 20k miles.

The question, it has original tires. How long can you expect them to last? They still look good. My 2006 350Z tires needed to be changed by 20k and so did my 2014. These OEM tires still look good!

I live in the Midwest (St. Louis) and even if last year did not get much snow, ice or rain in winter, it's possible. I don't know if I should just stay with the tires, get winter tires or all season of wait till Spring and get summer ones.

370Z JT · 09-27-2017, 09:25 PM

I get 15K to 20K in the rears. Fronts seem to last forever.

gbhrps · 09-27-2017, 09:57 PM

Zeebabar,

It really comes down to how you drive the car.

In my case, the Z is just a toy that comes out on nice sunny days, as I have 3 other cars to drive. I never race the car, as my tomcat days are long past. I have nothing to prove. I just enjoy driving a convertible that not everyone else has.

Personally I wouldn't even consider driving a car with this lack of ground clearance, the width of its tires, and the rear wheel drive, in our snow and ice winters of Southern, Ontario, Canada.

My daily driver is a winter tire equipped Subaru OutBack with all wheel drive. Its like being crazy glued to the road.

That said, if you're careful, and have winter tires installed, it may be possible to get around in the winter. But it will test your driving skills and patience. I for one wouldn't even consider doing so.

As far as which tires to buy for winter, I'd buy the best all season radials that you could get, unless you can spring for two sets for the car ... dedicated winter tires and dedicated summer performance tires.

Just my opinion.

axmea? · 09-28-2017, 12:08 AM

Have it measured by a shop. 20k on OG tires is pretty good.

RonRizz · 09-28-2017, 03:47 AM

The factory tires are summer high performance tires. They will get you absolutely nowhere in even the smallest amounts of snow.
Years ago I went to a show in Syracuse, ny early spring. factory rubber was still on the car. I was 1/2 mile from the event at my hotel. We had a freak overnight snow of about 2 1/2 inches, and I was stuck in the parking lot for a few hours until they plowed roads clear, and the sun beat up the parking lot.
Don't even risk it....

ct2012 · 09-28-2017, 07:39 AM

Bite the bullet and get a set of dedicated snow tires if you plan on driving it when the high temp is below 50 degrees. It's as simple as that. The stock summer tires are useless below those temps because the rubber compound hardens up and you won't have traction. The Z is my daily so I have a set of Blizzaks I put on and I drove it all last winter with no problems. Ground clearance is the true issue, though, so I work from home if there's a moderate amount of snow in the forecast.

I think some people run all-seasons on it and have no issues, but I felt better knowing that I had two separate sets of tires that were proven to be optimal in the conditions I was running them in.

On a lighter note, I get a discount on my HOA fees during the winter because I help plow the roads out with the chin spoiler.

radix023 · 09-28-2017, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

I bought a used base (but incredible blue) 2017 with 19k miles. It just crossed 20k miles.

The question, it has original tires. How long can you expect them to last? They still look good. My 2006 350Z tires needed to be changed by 20k and so did my 2014. These OEM tires still look good!

I live in the Midwest (St. Louis) and even if last year did not get much snow, ice or rain in winter, it's possible. I don't know if I should just stay with the tires, get winter tires or all season of wait till Spring and get summer ones.

I'm in a similar spot, with factory tires on my 2016. My car is a daily driver. While Atlanta does not always get snow in the winter (okay, more often not), it does get cold. The summer tires are firm and have poor traction under 50F. Next month I'm buying Michelin A/S 3+ shoes.

ZeeBabar · 09-28-2017, 08:25 AM

this fampous study seems to suggest that if it does not snow, summer tires are better in wet or dry conditions and all season tires are pointless, get either winter and summer tires or just park your car during snow and go with summer tires all year round.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/...vs-summer.html

2011 Nismo#91 · 09-28-2017, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

this fampous study seems to suggest that if it does not snow, summer tires are better in wet or dry conditions and all season tires are pointless, get either winter and summer tires or just park your car during snow and go with summer tires all year round.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/...vs-summer.html

Yep that's why I call them no season tires. Summer tires do suck when it's really cold below freezing, even if it's dry. The rubber gets way too hard and there is very little grip, at least from what I'm used to.

danegrey · 09-28-2017, 09:34 AM

really depends on your driving and wear the tread depth is now... my originals went about 25K, then went with Michelin PSS which then lasted about 25K and now with Michelin Pilot 4S, the care is rarely driven in the cold....

PaulNYz · 09-28-2017, 02:04 PM

Get winter tires. It's a lot less stressful knowing you have them if a popup storm ever happens. I've driven through lots of snow with my z and winters on. It performs the same as a fwd w/ winter tires as long as you are easy on the gas.

Even when you're goofing off it is easy to control. I would never drive this car in the northern winter with summer tires.

ZeeBabar · 09-28-2017, 08:54 PM

Problem is that, at most, there would be snow on the roads about 12-15 days in the entire winter. It's cheaper to just take Uber or stay home or use my wife's car on those. Yes, there are temps under 40 degrees but the summer tires can handle those.

TreeSemdyZee · 09-29-2017, 12:37 AM

After getting stuck in a warm (low 30s, upper 20s) the first year that I owned my car, I bought wheels and snow tires (228/50-18) from TireRack and drove 8 winters on them.

The car is actually quite fun in the snow if you have good tires. Don't go for All-season. Get full snow tires.
I still have a couple of the original snow tires that I bought in January of 2010. The only reason that I don't have all 4 is that I got assorted sharp pieces of metal in a couple of them.

IIRC I got about 27,000 on my original summer tires. Buy a tread depth gauge.

09-27-2017, 09:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
ZeeBabar Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 423 Drives: 2006 350z Rep Power: 0	What can I expect? I bought a used base (but incredible blue) 2017 with 19k miles. It just crossed 20k miles. The question, it has original tires. How long can you expect them to last? They still look good. My 2006 350Z tires needed to be changed by 20k and so did my 2014. These OEM tires still look good! I live in the Midwest (St. Louis) and even if last year did not get much snow, ice or rain in winter, it's possible. I don't know if I should just stay with the tires, get winter tires or all season of wait till Spring and get summer ones.

09-27-2017, 09:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
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axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,233 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	Have it measured by a shop. 20k on OG tires is pretty good. NISMO IX likes this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

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RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,132 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6774	The factory tires are summer high performance tires. They will get you absolutely nowhere in even the smallest amounts of snow. Years ago I went to a show in Syracuse, ny early spring. factory rubber was still on the car. I was 1/2 mile from the event at my hotel. We had a freak overnight snow of about 2 1/2 inches, and I was stuck in the parking lot for a few hours until they plowed roads clear, and the sun beat up the parking lot. Don't even risk it.... TreeSemdyZee, onzedge, NISMO IX and 1 others like this. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

09-28-2017, 08:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
ZeeBabar Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 423 Drives: 2006 350z Rep Power: 0	this fampous study seems to suggest that if it does not snow, summer tires are better in wet or dry conditions and all season tires are pointless, get either winter and summer tires or just park your car during snow and go with summer tires all year round. https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/...vs-summer.html 2011 Nismo#91 and wideglideleon like this.

09-27-2017, 09:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
gbhrps Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 213 Drives: 2016 RDSTR TS 6spd Rep Power: 7995	Zeebabar, It really comes down to how you drive the car. In my case, the Z is just a toy that comes out on nice sunny days, as I have 3 other cars to drive. I never race the car, as my tomcat days are long past. I have nothing to prove. I just enjoy driving a convertible that not everyone else has. Personally I wouldn't even consider driving a car with this lack of ground clearance, the width of its tires, and the rear wheel drive, in our snow and ice winters of Southern, Ontario, Canada. My daily driver is a winter tire equipped Subaru OutBack with all wheel drive. Its like being crazy glued to the road. That said, if you're careful, and have winter tires installed, it may be possible to get around in the winter. But it will test your driving skills and patience. I for one wouldn't even consider doing so. As far as which tires to buy for winter, I'd buy the best all season radials that you could get, unless you can spring for two sets for the car ... dedicated winter tires and dedicated summer performance tires. Just my opinion.

09-28-2017, 07:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
ct2012 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Central PA Posts: 43 Drives: 16 370Z Sport Rep Power: 8	Bite the bullet and get a set of dedicated snow tires if you plan on driving it when the high temp is below 50 degrees. It's as simple as that. The stock summer tires are useless below those temps because the rubber compound hardens up and you won't have traction. The Z is my daily so I have a set of Blizzaks I put on and I drove it all last winter with no problems. Ground clearance is the true issue, though, so I work from home if there's a moderate amount of snow in the forecast. I think some people run all-seasons on it and have no issues, but I felt better knowing that I had two separate sets of tires that were proven to be optimal in the conditions I was running them in. On a lighter note, I get a discount on my HOA fees during the winter because I help plow the roads out with the chin spoiler.

09-28-2017, 09:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,081 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 558939	really depends on your driving and wear the tread depth is now... my originals went about 25K, then went with Michelin PSS which then lasted about 25K and now with Michelin Pilot 4S, the care is rarely driven in the cold.... __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

09-28-2017, 02:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
PaulNYz Base Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 124 Drives: 12 sport 6MT Rep Power: 8	Get winter tires. It's a lot less stressful knowing you have them if a popup storm ever happens. I've driven through lots of snow with my z and winters on. It performs the same as a fwd w/ winter tires as long as you are easy on the gas. Even when you're goofing off it is easy to control. I would never drive this car in the northern winter with summer tires.

09-28-2017, 08:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZeeBabar Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 423 Drives: 2006 350z Rep Power: 0	Problem is that, at most, there would be snow on the roads about 12-15 days in the entire winter. It's cheaper to just take Uber or stay home or use my wife's car on those. Yes, there are temps under 40 degrees but the summer tires can handle those.

09-29-2017, 12:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 59 Posts: 4,880 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	After getting stuck in a warm (low 30s, upper 20s) the first year that I owned my car, I bought wheels and snow tires (228/50-18) from TireRack and drove 8 winters on them. The car is actually quite fun in the snow if you have good tires. Don't go for All-season. Get full snow tires. I still have a couple of the original snow tires that I bought in January of 2010. The only reason that I don't have all 4 is that I got assorted sharp pieces of metal in a couple of them. IIRC I got about 27,000 on my original summer tires. Buy a tread depth gauge. __________________ Borla S-Type \| Motordyne \| Z1 (lots) \| South Bend \| K&N \| Nismo/Nismo S-Tune \| Eibach \| Aerojacket \| Fujimara \| Spl \| ZSpeed Performance \| Kenwood-Infinity-Sound Ordnance \| Whiteline \| Ecutek \| Hotchkis \| Clazzio \| VQ Vortex \|Morimoto XB \|Dynosty Tune 329.64hp 265.73 ft/lb

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