Really? A Civic beats a Z

BC416

The butt-hurt over this car is strong.

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The "LOOK AT ME" arms race is in full blown retard mode, and the type R is clearly in the lead.

I like the Z because there just isn't another car aside from a 911 that looks anything like it for the money. Everything here in Oregon is "Me tooooo" wrx/sti, mustang, camaro, etc vehicles.

Mustang = just too many of them/don't like the hat wearing punks that gravitate towards them / questionable quality, get the gt350 or don't bother.

Wrx/Sti = get pulled over once a month / people try to race you every day / attracts dudes, not hot blond chicks / money pit / understeer

Camaro = I actually like the camaro, but it's just too large of a vehicle and I'm not even sure it would fit in my garage, plus, too many of them on the roads

Porsche = too expensive to daily drive, but obviously it's precision german pu$$y!

Brz/Frs = unreliable if you want to go forced induction/not worth the money/too common

Miata/Fiat = sorry, still a chic car/too small/not a daily driver, but a cheap track car, but I'd feel like a wimp picking up a girl on a date in one.

VW Gti/R = Nice car, but I don't trust VW/German brands unless you plan to lease it for 24-36 months and then walk away, but an APR tune on one of these is very tempting, but still worried about reliability

Audi/BMW = too expensive/too heavy/too common/ attracts gold digger chics. I'm a fan of the updated RS3, that would be fun with an APR tune, but again, not sure on the reliability factor. Audi = under-steer. M2 seems like the only one to have, but here in Portland we have Kuni bmw and I've just heard too many horror stories about them, especially after my neighbor worked for them

Lexus = It's ironic but their styling is starting to look more reserved and age better if you want a black colored vehicle to help mask the front, which means you better have $3500 to clear bra the entire vehicle or you like spending 8 hours a week buffing/polishing/glaze/wax/going insane. If someone can make a high quality less stupid looking aftermarket from bumper for their vehicles, it would probably be my next daily (not sure on model yet).

Nissan = outside of the 370, I dislike the entire rest of the lineup, and I'd never daily a gtr or even spend that much on a car unless a pile of money drops out of the sky. The CVT's are BS... you know the rest...

Toyota = Tacoma, used is in my future!!!

Felix 808

Horsepower means little if it isn't delivered properly or can't get to the ground (spun up tires don't help much, though it can be fun ). I agree with the author that “I never feel more in the moment than when driving the Z,” The feeling of the semi Spartan interior (Get a Lotus if you want true Spartan) and the way the car corners along with looking good, It's a winner for me. But it's not the newest/fastest Blah Blah Blah... It works for me so as quoted above.. Who Cares what people say.

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Z in the 6

You made some good points that I agree with for sure, but if you drive a Z because chicks like it... buy a crotch rocket that's too big for your riding capabilities. Picking up a girl on a date in your Z is just a perk... possibly in her eyes.. but definitely in yours

Jhill

More to the point. Anyone that buys a car to attract girls is pretty pathetic and shallow and will only be attracting a shallow girl so do not be surprised when she cheats or leaves you. Grew up with two sisters and thankfully neither would go for a guy because of his image or ego.

Buy a sports car for yourself and because you love to hit that adrenaline edge (preferably on the track) and **** what anyone else thinks about your purchase. Unless of course you bought it and never actually use it and just use it to overcompensate, then please sell it to someone that can appreciate it.

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markesc

Didn't buy the Z because of the chic part. 3rd gear in my wrx blew up from 6 years of me beating the crap out of it (blouch 20g 344hp/348tq on cobbs dyno). So it was going to be anywhere from $2-$6k to fix the transmission.

I said I had enough and sold it for $7k, and took that money to put down on the Z.

BMW turned me down for financing on a new M2 as my credit was shot at that point in time, so a friend of mine knew the finance manager at Nissan of Portland, I jumped online, saw a midnight blue Z, always wanted a blue 2 door sports car, made the call, went down the next morning signed papers and that was that.

I didn't realize that chics even cared about the car til I started getting compliments once a week. I keep it excessively clean as dark colors show just about everything (nightmare). My theory is chics think it's faster/more expensive than it really is, and you just don't see very many 2 door vehicles in Oregon that are not mustangs/camero's, and the color just isn't common. Here everyone wants an suv/cuv/truck/subaru outback/boring pod cars like the leaf/prius/fit (barf).

As far as bikes go, I would commit a felony within a week if I owned one. I just do not have the physical self control to drive one. My father did have a bike when I was a kid, somehow the transmission locked up at 75mph, he laid it down and slid a long distance, lots of hospital visits, skin grafs, meds, etc. My mom kept the bloody jeans. So every time I brought up getting a bike, she would pull out those bloody jeans and I decided I'll stick with cars at an early age. Maybe it's a lame excuse but the car doesn't push me to temp fate. Too many things can go wrong on bikes, many of which are not in your control. Much respect to riders, just watching those mulholland drive videos still makes me question if getting one would be a good idea or not!

I would love it if we could have a new s2k but for taller people without the over styling, otherwise I'll stick with the Z, it's just fun enough for some turns, and just boring enough to keep me from doing things that I shouldn't do (the wrx encouraged bad things).

Back to topic: Any predictions when this over styled thing will start to go away?

Zingston

Maybe you should try off road bikes. I wouldn't touch a street bike where I live for the same bloody jeans reason, however I have a blast on my KTM 250. Lots of fun, and less painful when you bail.

Driftomodachi

You sir, get it. Except for the Miata/Fiat. Those things will run circles around the Z in the twisties. But on the straightaways not a match

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Benibiker

Ha ha, totally agree with your Nissan comment... When I was buying my car and sitting in the showroom playing the car buying game I was looking at their entire line up of cars and was thinking the same thing. Who in their right mind would buy a Nissan?! All their cars minus the Z and the GTR are butt ugly! I'd see customers walk in and wonder what the hell is wrong with them. Lol

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