2018 Type R vs STI vs Z

Chuck33079 · 07-31-2017, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zfaninphilly

the 'winner' of any shootout, comparo, etc is Always the new entry.

That's exactly it. In 6 months there will be another test with the Type R coming in third to the two newer models. Car magazines don't compare anything, they just pump whatever car manufacturer writes the biggest check.

SS_Firehawk · 07-31-2017, 12:05 PM

The new Nismo with the Dunlops would have been the proper car to bring if available. Hell, they could've asked a dealership to borrow one for publicity. This could have been an opportunity for Nissan to show how well the platform aged against the newer contemporaries. The Z was running mid 13's, braking near 100ft from 60mph, 70mph slalom tests, and pulling a G in the corner with Advan's and RE50's 8 years ago.

Every one of those metrics lay right over the CTR. Granted that's "magazine racing", but the point is, a Sport or specifically a Nismo Z would have been a lot more interesting.

b15 · 07-31-2017, 04:18 PM

Agree not the best trim choice but still cool to see how the Z still hangs given how relatively "old school" it is. These cars both have a ton of tech but the old school approach of the Z is what makes it so fun. At least in my opinion.

xfrgtr · 07-31-2017, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

The new Nismo with the Dunlops would have been the proper car to bring if available. Hell, they could've asked a dealership to borrow one for publicity. This could have been an opportunity for Nissan to show how well the platform aged against the newer contemporaries. The Z was running mid 13's, braking near 100ft from 60mph, 70mph slalom tests, and pulling a G in the corner with Advan's and RE50's 8 years ago.

Every one of those metrics lay right over the CTR. Granted that's "magazine racing", but the point is, a Sport or specifically a Nismo Z would have been a lot more interesting.

Yep, the 2010 nismo runs to 60 mph in 5.0 seconds,a slalom run of 69.9 mph and to the quarter-mile mark in 13.5, according to Road & Track
2010 Nismo 370Z

TechnicZ · 07-31-2017, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by markesc

Call it our current cultural crisis stuck in a bad youtube feedback loop that rewards narcissism, not classy restraint that was once a timeless and respectable design language. We've let the mouth breathing marketing majors transmit their stupidity over to the designers who plagiarize the next dumber ideas who are then being rewarded for being cowards.

At this point with all the fins/creases/bully grillz, we're in a full blown race to the bottom of "all show and no go" for about 99% of vehicles on the road with the exception of the CTR, which obviously has the track pedigree, but lacks class given the price point. Thank GOD it won't be mass produced.

So yeah, not on board with the "it's new, so it must be better" typical consumerism bs mindset. I'll give up a few seconds to not look stupid.

Well said sir!

Louie cat · 08-01-2017, 10:59 AM

It reminds me of this car...

brucelidat · 08-01-2017, 05:11 PM

The Type-R is definitely fast, but it's way too boy racer riced out for me.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-01-2017, 08:43 PM

It's convenience for bias that these compares are made this way. People are paying $45,000 for a new CTR, So that runs in line with the nismo.

The Z is on another level though even in a base Z. RWD is King.

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SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	The new Nismo with the Dunlops would have been the proper car to bring if available. Hell, they could've asked a dealership to borrow one for publicity. This could have been an opportunity for Nissan to show how well the platform aged against the newer contemporaries. The Z was running mid 13's, braking near 100ft from 60mph, 70mph slalom tests, and pulling a G in the corner with Advan's and RE50's 8 years ago. Every one of those metrics lay right over the CTR. Granted that's "magazine racing", but the point is, a Sport or specifically a Nismo Z would have been a lot more interesting. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	The Type-R is definitely fast, but it's way too boy racer riced out for me. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	It's convenience for bias that these compares are made this way. People are paying $45,000 for a new CTR, So that runs in line with the nismo. The Z is on another level though even in a base Z. RWD is King. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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07-31-2017, 04:18 PM	#33 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	Agree not the best trim choice but still cool to see how the Z still hangs given how relatively "old school" it is. These cars both have a ton of tech but the old school approach of the Z is what makes it so fun. At least in my opinion.