Do 6 speed manuals have Overdrive? Insurance problems

NismoZ370 · 06-30-2016, 11:09 AM

Posted this in the Nismo thread but wanted to post here also Incase any of you have any answers.

So my insurance company Allstate is evaluating my 2010 Nismo for total loss and compared it to other 2010 and 2011 370 Nismos for a payoff value. Two of the four comparable vehicles 2010-2011 Nismos they list as having overdrive but mine is listed as not having his option. We all know they are identical cars so this is impossible if they are listing the other two comparable vehicles as having overdrive. The evaluation company Allstate uses is CCC.

My question is does anyone have any documentation or proof of the Nismo having overdrive. The total loss adjuster needs me to prove I have overdrive even though CCC has listed two of its exact comparable Nismos having it...

Help please! Thanks in advance.

scope22 · 06-30-2016, 11:18 AM

You should go to the dealer and get something in writing...also you people need to stop crashing your Zs wtf, thats like 3rd one this week.

Dirk McGurck · 06-30-2016, 11:29 AM

Manuals don't have overdrive, we have 6th gears.

MagmaRed370z · 06-30-2016, 11:41 AM

No they don't. Not even the 7AT have OD.

SouthArk370Z · 06-30-2016, 11:42 AM

The owner's manual, sales brochures, FSM, &c will have transmission gear ratios. Nearly all manual transmissions nowadays have at least one OD gear. In the 6MT, 6th gear is OD. 0.79:1, if my source was correct.

I don't think any Nismo has a separate OD unit, just a high gear in trans.

NismoZ370 · 06-30-2016, 11:53 AM

All I need is something official that says overdrive and Nismo 6th gear in the same sentence. I'm not home so I have no paperwork for my car. TDY in VA.

cv129 · 06-30-2016, 11:56 AM

^ what Southark says

OD is "an automotive transmission gear that transmits to the drive shaft a speed greater than engine speed". For 6MT box, 6th gear is the OD.

Nissan 370Z Official Specs Released from Nissan 11.15.08

Your adjuster is an idiot.

cooltoy · 06-30-2016, 12:02 PM

All you have to tell them is that all Nismos are the same. If they have one that says it's has overdrive, then they should mark yours the same (no matter if it's true or not). Yours is no different then the others. There were variations of the Nismo.

NismoZ370 · 06-30-2016, 12:04 PM

I have mentioned this several times. She is placing the burden of proof on me...

cooltoy · 06-30-2016, 12:10 PM

I guess you could technically call the sixth gear overdrive.

Ask them what proof the other Nismos provided.

NismoZ370 · 06-30-2016, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy

I guess you could technically call the sixth gear overdrive.

Ask them what proof the other Nismos provided.

I told her to contact CCC and find out how they know the other nismos have overdrive

cv129 · 06-30-2016, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoZ370

I have mentioned this several times. She is placing the burden of proof on me...

Well I guess now we know why this "overdrive" thing is an issue lol.

I just searched through the PDF file of 2010 owner's manual, and a 2013 sales brochure, used keyword "Overdrive", "Over Drive", "OD", no result. Used keyword "Gear" to see if I come across anything resembling OD, I saw none.

Show her a 2010 brochure and owner's manual and that it makes no mention of OD gear, that an "OD" NOT an add-on option on any 370z, that the mistake is on her end and burden of proof is on her (easier said than done, I know).

Sorry for the hassle.

Duc_Z09 · 06-30-2016, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129

Your adjuster is an idiot.

And how.

Nismodean · 06-30-2016, 02:35 PM

Simplest fix. Tell that broad to pack sand and find someone else in that department who has the slightest bit of a clue on cars to take over your claim.

NismoZ370 · 06-30-2016, 03:03 PM

If they remove overdrive from the comparable vehicles will that bring the value of mine down, since they're value will also drop?

06-30-2016, 11:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
NismoZ370 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 711 Drives: a GTR soon! Rep Power: 15	Do 6 speed manuals have Overdrive? Insurance problems Posted this in the Nismo thread but wanted to post here also Incase any of you have any answers. So my insurance company Allstate is evaluating my 2010 Nismo for total loss and compared it to other 2010 and 2011 370 Nismos for a payoff value. Two of the four comparable vehicles 2010-2011 Nismos they list as having overdrive but mine is listed as not having his option. We all know they are identical cars so this is impossible if they are listing the other two comparable vehicles as having overdrive. The evaluation company Allstate uses is CCC. My question is does anyone have any documentation or proof of the Nismo having overdrive. The total loss adjuster needs me to prove I have overdrive even though CCC has listed two of its exact comparable Nismos having it... Help please! Thanks in advance.

06-30-2016, 11:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
scope22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 1,179 Drives: wife crazy Rep Power: 55	You should go to the dealer and get something in writing...also you people need to stop crashing your Zs wtf, thats like 3rd one this week. Z-Girl 12 and VQZ34 like this.

06-30-2016, 11:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 20	Manuals don't have overdrive, we have 6th gears. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

06-30-2016, 11:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 12	No they don't. Not even the 7AT have OD. __________________ Sold: 2014 Magnetic Black Base. Current: 2014 Magma Red 370z Sport \| ARK Grip Exhaust \| 25mm HR Spacers \| GTR Button \| DRL Mod

06-30-2016, 11:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	The owner's manual, sales brochures, FSM, &c will have transmission gear ratios. Nearly all manual transmissions nowadays have at least one OD gear. In the 6MT, 6th gear is OD. 0.79:1, if my source was correct. I don't think any Nismo has a separate OD unit, just a high gear in trans. mayday813, JARblue and cv129 like this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

06-30-2016, 11:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
NismoZ370 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 711 Drives: a GTR soon! Rep Power: 15	All I need is something official that says overdrive and Nismo 6th gear in the same sentence. I'm not home so I have no paperwork for my car. TDY in VA.

06-30-2016, 11:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,192 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 159827	^ what Southark says OD is "an automotive transmission gear that transmits to the drive shaft a speed greater than engine speed". For 6MT box, 6th gear is the OD. Nissan 370Z Official Specs Released from Nissan 11.15.08 Your adjuster is an idiot. mayday813, JARblue, axmea? and 4 others like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

06-30-2016, 12:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,938 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 240204	All you have to tell them is that all Nismos are the same. If they have one that says it's has overdrive, then they should mark yours the same (no matter if it's true or not). Yours is no different then the others. There were variations of the Nismo. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

06-30-2016, 12:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
NismoZ370 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 711 Drives: a GTR soon! Rep Power: 15	I have mentioned this several times. She is placing the burden of proof on me...

06-30-2016, 12:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,938 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 240204	I guess you could technically call the sixth gear overdrive. Ask them what proof the other Nismos provided. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

06-30-2016, 02:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Nismodean Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 313 Drives: 2009 RIP Now 2012 Rep Power: 14	Simplest fix. Tell that broad to pack sand and find someone else in that department who has the slightest bit of a clue on cars to take over your claim. Nixin likes this. __________________ The Truth, it hurts sometimes. FI LTH & FI CF CBE. This is a 370Z forum, if I want to fling poo at another brand of car and your feelings get hurt, then you're hanging out in the wrong forum (cry elsewhere).

06-30-2016, 03:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
NismoZ370 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 711 Drives: a GTR soon! Rep Power: 15	If they remove overdrive from the comparable vehicles will that bring the value of mine down, since they're value will also drop?

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