A 370Z in the snow

Duc_Z09 · 06-08-2016, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

Not wrong. I drove it in the snow with summer tires. No scares. Just sideways at times.

Can't tell me I'm wrong when I've experienced it myself.

You just proved my point. Sideways on a deserted side street is fun. Sideways into oncoming traffic gets yourself and a carload of other people killed.

DeliriousClam · 06-08-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

You just proved my point. Sideways on a deserted side street is fun. Sideways into oncoming traffic gets yourself and a carload of other people killed.

Most of the time sideways was intentional because there was no one else on the streets. Also stayed in my lane the entire time.

Agree to disagree

Duc_Z09 · 06-08-2016, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

Most of the time sideways was intentional because there was no one else on the streets. Also stayed in my lane the entire time.

Agree to disagree

Do you agree that winter tires or a different vehicle would have been a lot easier to control?

DeliriousClam · 06-08-2016, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Do you agree that winter tires or a different vehicle would have been a lot easier to control?

When I got my license I went to an ice driving school so it wasn't that hard. I actually had more problems with winter beater Maxima in the snow so I don't necessarily agree with that part. I will agree snow tires will make it easier

Duc_Z09 · 06-08-2016, 09:29 PM

My entire point is that in the snow a 370z is a lot worse off than most vehicles. It's not my mom's AWD Volvo, it's not my lifted 4x4 Jeep, it's not even a Subaru Legacy. Hell, it's worse than my wife's Mustang. If you have uncommon skill and a bit of luck you can drive one... until about 5" of white stuff anyway. But why would you?

DeliriousClam · 06-08-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

My entire point is that in the snow a 370z is a lot worse off than most vehicles. It's not my mom's AWD Volvo, it's not my lifted 4x4 Jeep, it's not even a Subaru Legacy. Hell, it's worse than my wife's Mustang. If you have uncommon skill and a bit of luck you can drive one... until about 5" of white stuff anyway. But why would you?

1: starts snowing even though there was no snow called for that day and took it to work.
2: Fun

cofo11 · 06-08-2016, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mayday813

With dedicated snows/rims it will handle fine especially if you have a limited slip differential or viscous diff. whatever Nissan calls it. Chains may not clear brakes, etc. I've used Michelin Xice snow tires for the past four winters in Iowa. No problem until the snow gets 5 inches deep then you best park it unless you like to plow snow.

No, especially on a sports car, an LSD will not improve handling in the snow, take off traction possibly, but with an LSD you're immediately going to find the fall line on a slick surface if it locks up.

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cofo11 · 06-08-2016, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

1. Well duh.
2. Skinny rims = more weight per square inch of rubber = better in snow
3. See number 1. This applies in good weather, too.

Your roomie's Challenger weighs about 1,000lbs more than your Z. And I have no doubt it sucks in the snow too compared to say, oh I dunno, my Jeep. Or any AWD car with decent tires. Or even a Camry with all-season tread.

The Z is a shitty winter car. Period. If you're willing to put up with it (and it sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to) then by all means drive it through the snow. Just remember that you're "getting away with it" not because it's a good idea or the car was designed for it, but because 98% of the time you'll be OK provided everything works out how you expect it to. The other 2% of the time you're going to be screwed.

Number 2 is incorrect by the way, unless you're also running a much skinnier tire. The only thing that will do with a similar sized tire is change the shape of the contact patch, not the area.

Changing the shape of the patch can be a good thing as well though. Narrower bites through rather than rides on top and potentially gets better traction due to that.

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cofo11 · 06-08-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

My entire point is that in the snow a 370z is a lot worse off than most vehicles. It's not my mom's AWD Volvo, it's not my lifted 4x4 Jeep, it's not even a Subaru Legacy. Hell, it's worse than my wife's Mustang. If you have uncommon skill and a bit of luck you can drive one... until about 5" of white stuff anyway. But why would you?

I have to ask what sort of Jeep you have, unless it's an XJ, Unlimited, LJ, or something with a comparable wheelbase, I'm assuming YJ, TJ, JK, CJ, etc., it's a terrible snow vehicle, on public roads, for a single very obvious reason.

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TreeSemdyZee · 06-08-2016, 10:00 PM

I've been driving mine in the snow since 2009. It's actually quite fun in the snow with full snow tires.

Joe1561 · 06-08-2016, 10:34 PM

14 years is a long time, you shouldve 1.Had insurance and 2. By that time had enough for another car (to replace the wrecked one) or a "winter beater"

James10694 · 06-08-2016, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Hell, it's worse than my wife's Mustang.

I beg to differ wit that one. Have you seen the memes?!? That's on dry pavement!
Seriously tho, can it be done with good winter tires and wheels? Maybe.
Should you risk it? Probably not
Would i? Definitely not

Solid370z · 06-08-2016, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

I live in Minnesota. As a daily driver in a snow-prone part of the country...the 370Z is a bad, bad choice.

I can also tell you that with summer tires it's not in the slightest bit driveable in the snow. As a matter of fact, it's downright dangerous.

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I've been stuck in half an inch of snow. On a flat side street. Stock 285 Potenza RE11's. With summer tires don't even bother.

I was able to drive in 1-3" snow max with the CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS. Good luck doing that with the stock tires.

enkei2k · 06-08-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Bzzzzzzzzzt! Wrong.

Ding-ding-ding! We have a winner!

I've been stuck in half an inch of snow. On a flat side street. Stock 285 Potenza RE11's. With summer tires don't even bother. With skinny winter rims and Blizzak's you might get away with it every now and again... but why risk it? I know the main reason I shelled out for a dedicated sports car was so I could coat it with salt and calcium every winter and tempt some jackass in a speeding SUV with bald tires to slide into it.

stock tires aren't RE-11's...and those RE-11's are 'extreme summer performance tires'...per Tire Rack's website.

I've driven in the snow before with the stock OEM RE050s (which are a step below 'extreme'). Not a lot of snow, just a light coating...so I can't really give much input on this topic.

cofo11 · 06-08-2016, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

stock tires aren't RE-11's...and those RE-11's are 'extreme summer performance tires'...per Tire Rack's website.

I've driven in the snow before with the stock OEM RE050s (which are a step below 'extreme'). Not a lot of snow, just a light coating...so I can't really give much input on this topic.

What he's doing in this thread is quite clever I have to admit though. Mixing just the right amount of truths in with the half thruths to make it plausible takes talent.

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Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	My entire point is that in the snow a 370z is a lot worse off than most vehicles. It's not my mom's AWD Volvo, it's not my lifted 4x4 Jeep, it's not even a Subaru Legacy. Hell, it's worse than my wife's Mustang. If you have uncommon skill and a bit of luck you can drive one... until about 5" of white stuff anyway. But why would you? __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

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