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Fearless_Z 05-30-2016 10:39 PM

Torn between two beasts.
 
Well guys, I use to own a Pearl White 6MT Sport back in 2013-2014. I sold it because I was waiting on a job to come through that took 8 months to get on with and I needed the extra money. Well, now I've finally got back on track and I have enough money to buy a 2014 Nismo (what I originally wanted). But now I am torn because while I can afford the Nismo pretty easy, I recently found a lot of interest in the new 2015-2016 Dodge Challenger 392 SRT. It's a tad bit more but I can afford it. But I'm torn between the two. I have another vehicle which is a SUV so a backseat really isn't demanding but its nice to have so my daughter can ride also. Thoughts? :ugh2:

Breadz 05-30-2016 10:42 PM

Take a challenger for a test drive and maybe your mind will be made up

Fearless_Z 05-30-2016 10:47 PM

Yeah, I tried to today but that have no manuals at the dealership in my city. They have one R/T but its the 385hp one. :/

Memphis370Z 05-30-2016 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Breadz (Post 3489785)
Take a challenger for a test drive and maybe your mind will be made up

:iagree:

Z Runner 05-30-2016 10:57 PM

Take the 370z Base rest invest in to aftermarket parts! Way more fun then Dodge.

Zbrah 05-30-2016 11:50 PM

Go for the Nismo. Done.

Zoom370z 05-31-2016 12:17 AM

Yep more fun

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jchammond 05-31-2016 01:47 AM

The dodge will stay Broke,not bad looking cars;but we work on the law enforcement chargers & challengers!
Bottom of the quality barrel.

Dirk McGurck 05-31-2016 06:38 AM

Buy the Nismo and add 800lbs of free weights to the trunk. Then you'll have the Challenger.

Wheels3309 05-31-2016 07:41 AM

These are two COMPLETELY different cars... you better test drive that challenger before making any serious decisions. I've owned many Chrysler products in the past... all have been disappointments from a build and drive-quality and perspective. YMMV

2011 Nismo#91 05-31-2016 09:00 AM

I had to make a similar decisions in 2011. They are two different cars, for two different types of people. Two things killed the challenger in the end for me at the time the STR had a 3k gas guzzler tax on it, now only the hellcat does. The other was when I was at the NY Autoshow their was a line to see both cars, but the people in the Z line were mostly people my age (20's and 30's), the people at the challenger were mostly much older then me (50's and 60's). The challenger's target market isn't for me (yet), imo it's more of a soft cushiony, straightline, 60's inspired retro, spacious car. The Z is very much the opposite.

cv129 05-31-2016 09:08 AM

Op, if you honestly need help from others to make the decision, the make sure you get all sides of the story by also posting the same question in the challenger forum.

TerribleONE 05-31-2016 09:25 AM

Drive both and get the one you like more.

lovemyvq 05-31-2016 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheels3309 (Post 3489934)
These are two COMPLETELY different cars... you better test drive that challenger before making any serious decisions. I've owned many Chrysler products in the past... all have been disappointments from a build and drive-quality and perspective. YMMV

Could not agree more. Analogy wise, if the nismo Z is a precision tool the land yacht err challenger would be a rather large rock. Great for smashing but little else lol. I test drove a purple 392 and really enjoyed the test drive. But I quickly realized that an hour long test drive was all I needed and the maximum foreseeable fun I could have with the car was achieved on a test drive. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad the challenger exists and I love seeing/hearing them. The same way I'm glad elephants exist and love seeing/hearing them but I definitely would not want to own one lol.

cooltoy 05-31-2016 10:22 AM

http://www.merchantsofair.com/upload...89262_orig.jpg

Bad Boy 05-31-2016 11:04 AM

Buy a used chevy Aveo and get me the NISMO.

Fuzzzy 05-31-2016 12:10 PM

I keep reading "breasts" in the title. Was disappointed the first time I opened the thread, and continue to be disappointed every time I see the title.

Good luck, OP, but I'm not as interested in helping to resolve your dilemma as I thought I'd be :o

cooltoy 05-31-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzzy (Post 3490080)
I keep reading "breasts" in the title.

Me too.

Darwins Child 05-31-2016 12:29 PM

Warning! This comment is rated by the MPAA as "R".

Ever since we bought our Z a few weeks ago, I can think of only one thing when I happen to notice the vehicles which are the subject of this thread. I think Ahhhnold expresses that thought far better than I can (and maybe get away with it, but maybe not):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcgRaf38uCQ

Spooler 05-31-2016 01:18 PM

I like the Chargers and Challengers no doubt. The issue I have is all the Dodge stuff around them. I have a 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 with the Cummins engine. Some of the Dodge stuff that breaks is just stupid. Love my truck but I get aggravated with all the stupid stuff I have to fix.

TriNismo 05-31-2016 02:24 PM

Torn between two beasts.
 
If you're thinking about American Muscle, have you thought about Shelby Gt350? Not a Ford guy but that's a beast

Sorry for going off topic lol


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OldGuyFla 05-31-2016 02:39 PM

If you are wanting to go with a Challenger you might as well go all the way. Look at the SRT Hellcat, 707 hp.

Hotrodz 05-31-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3490130)
I like the Chargers and Challengers no doubt. The issue I have is all the Dodge stuff around them. I have a 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 with the Cummins engine. Some of the Dodge stuff that breaks is just stupid. Love my truck but I get aggravated with all the stupid stuff I have to fix.

You nailed it, drove Dodge 3/4 ton 4x4 during the last part of my career as a Game Warden. Great engine and so so to bad everything else.

I you want to go fast get the Charger the Hellcat is a boat and can't put the power down...come on 285's in the rear for a car of that size and power!

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imjello 05-31-2016 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless_Z (Post 3489781)
... I have another vehicle which is a SUV so a backseat really isn't demanding but its nice to have so my daughter can ride also. Thoughts? :ugh2:

you already have an SUV, buy the nismo :)

Z1NONLY 05-31-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3489891)
Buy the Nismo and add 800lbs of free weights to the trunk. Then you'll have the Challenger.

This.

Spstone 05-31-2016 07:11 PM

I had the same dilemma when I bought my Z. 2 things made a deciding factor for me, the first was corning, while the Challenger wasn't bad for it's size the NISMO was a go cart. The second was while the interior of the NISMO is sparse to say the least, it feels like that was it's design, while the SRT8 felt like it was reaching to be a mix between luxury and race car and didn't fit either one.

pokeyl 05-31-2016 09:19 PM

I have an RT and a NISMO. Get the one you like the most. Dodge is better ride and comfort and when you want to go it will. Z is way more fun to drive under all other conditions. NISMO is super stiff get a set of sport damper take off and keep the NISMO springs.

280z/300zx 06-01-2016 03:09 PM

As a guy who owned a sport/touring Z and a NISMO Z I would tell you that for the money you would spend on a 2014 Z or 2015 Challenger there are much better cars to buy. The Z is heavily dated at this point and not worth buying unless you don't care about having dated tech. If it were me I'd be looking at a new Camaro SS or Mustang. Don't get me wrong, the Z is an awesome car, but compared to other options it's very dated with regard to performance and inside tech.

Fearless_Z 06-02-2016 10:52 AM

Thanks for all the input guys. It looks like I am going to have to drive to Texas to find a SRT to test drive, sadly. I'm still on the fence about. As for the comment about dated tech and the new SS, im going to look into that. They have a 2SS near me at a dealership.

Duc_Z09 06-02-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriNismo (Post 3490157)
If you're thinking about American Muscle, have you thought about Shelby Gt350? Not a Ford guy but that's a beast

Sorry for going off topic lol


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:iagree:Hard to beat a 520+hp v8 that revs to 8250rpm and handles like a race car. If you don't get the R model you'll also have back seats.

Zrider79 06-02-2016 09:58 PM

I'm going to have both.

Fearless_Z 06-05-2016 08:13 PM

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9572/overview/

found this beauty, kinda wanna make a quick decision and act on it...

Spooler 06-05-2016 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless_Z (Post 3492955)
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9572/overview/

found this beauty, kinda wanna make a quick decision and act on it...

If it checks out it is worth it. I paid 32k for my 2013 with 7794 miles. My car was just about perfect though.

Fearless_Z 06-05-2016 11:06 PM

Im gonna see if I can get him to come down to around 32-33k.

280z/300zx 06-07-2016 02:30 PM

I'd try and get them to come way down. You have to consider that if you were to try and sell it even 6 months from now you'd probably only get 25-30k for it. When buying used you should always try to aim for a price point that should you sell it in a short period of time you can usually break even. Unfortunately the Z doesn't hold it's value very well. I sold my 2010 NISMO in 2014 for 25k. I think if you can nab this one for 30k you'd be doing really well. At 35k it's a bit expensive.

As I mentioned before though, for 35k you can buy yourself a newer car that is much better. Assuming you aren't dead set on the Z body itself.

Also have you test driven a NISMO? I would really encourage you to get some seat time with it. And not some 5min drive around the block either. The suspension is super rough on the NISMO. Probably the roughest of any car I've been in short of a track only car. I daily drove mine for 4 years without much issue as I just got used to it buy my girlfriend at the time hated it. And she wasn't some prissy type. She drove sports cars herself with her car at the time being a 2014 Camaro 1LE. I'm just saying, the NISMO is not cush at all. Some people love it and others hate it. I was much happier when I went to my Vette GS. Same level of handling without the harshness

Nismodean 06-09-2016 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 3490851)
As a guy who owned a sport/touring Z and a NISMO Z I would tell you that for the money you would spend on a 2014 Z or 2015 Challenger there are much heavier wanna be sports cars to buy. The Z is heavily dated at this point and still keeps up with exhaust mods, it's not worth buying if you only care about having updated tech that does absolutely nothing to improve the performance and handling with the extra weight it brings to the table. If it were me I'd be looking at a new Camaro SS or Mustang if you want a bloated overweight car that handles like a fat a55 with kankles around corners. Don't get me wrong, the Z is an awesome car, but compared to other options it's very dated tech, there are other cars with blingy eye catching carrots that will distract you from their all round lackluster performance.

Fixed :happydance:

Fearless_Z 06-09-2016 07:51 PM

Well after looking around at different cars and different pricing/financing options. I found out what I want to go with. A brand new 2016 Stingray, base model 6 speed. I can afford one with a nice down payment and 84 month financing and my credit is 750+ so I can get a could approval and interest rate. It seems to be the best performing car for its price and it looks hella mean, IMO.

Memphis370Z 06-09-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless_Z (Post 3495548)
Well after looking around at different cars and different pricing/financing options. I found out what I want to go with. A brand new 2016 Stingray, base model 6 speed. I can afford one with a nice down payment and 84 month financing and my credit is 750+ so I can get a could approval and interest rate. It seems to be the best performing car for its price and it looks hella mean, IMO.

This is not a personal judgement; just a few questions for you to explore internally.

You're saying that you would finance a car for seven years? Seven? With a "nice down payment?" My mortgage term is fifteen years.

I understand passion, and I understand perceived value. Often, it's unfortunate when these two roads cross.

Fearless_Z 06-09-2016 09:02 PM

Well I have 6 years left on my home until its paid for. I have no other bills aside from utilities. Im 25 and I've been lucky enough to get set up like I am. I have a great job (now). With a steady 4k-7k increase in salary for the next 4 years that is definite. So I figure if I am gonna buy something that I am going to keep until the wheels fall off, I might as well go big. I mean, it would be one thing if it put me in a bind or kept me from saving money on the side for other things but it won't. Yeah, I'll have a $600 note but I'm going to have one hell of a car. Plus, that note is only $150 more than my note was on my Z, the only difference is the size of the down payment I am putting on the car.

Fearless_Z 06-09-2016 10:38 PM

And I know...this thread went from 370z vs Challenger to Corvette, lol. You know how it is when it comes to cars. I'll probably change my mind 100 times. I've just never bought anything new before and I figured 84 months financing was a good option because otherwise, I wouldn't buy a car that expensive.


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